At what point am I allowed to celebrate Hillary making history?

[bigtree]

Kevin ‏@KevinDarryl 7h7 hours ago
At what point am I allowed to celebrate Hillary making history?

I get that we aren’t allowed to spike the football, for fear of offending voters whose candidate is losing. I get that we aren’t allowed to highlight the incredible obstacles Hillary has faced to get where she is today, for fear of being told we are shills, paid trolls, neoliberal, apologists, or the establishment.

But at what point can we celebrate what Hillary is on the cusp of? When do we acknowledge the shattered glass at our feet which she’s left scattered in her wake?

From the moment Hillary hit the political scene in Arkansas, from the second she stepped foot on the campaign trail for her husband back in the 1992 election cycle, she was treated as an existential threat to Republican politics. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent for the past 25 years to make you hate her (incidentally, does anyone else think this may provide some explanation for the fact that her weakest support comes from the people who have only been alive that long?). She’s been investigated, slandered, exonerated, ridiculed, and honored time and time again. But more than that — she’s worked harder and longer and more effectively than any woman in American political history.

Yet, if she were to take a bow, if we were to pump our fists at this seminal moment in history, we’d be accused of all manner of incivility.

So when would it be okay to acknowledge this profound and deeply appreciated accomplishment to millions of Americans who are voting for her to succeed where no woman has succeeded before?

read: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/26/1531228/-At-what-point-am-I-allowed-to-celebrate-Hillary-making-history

Shhh!: We're ALREADY celebrating!

[morningfog]

1. Aw, poor Kevin.

[Betty Karlson]

2. Why would you celebrate the demise of the Democratic Party? eom

[brooklynite]

5. So you're saying that if Sanders loses, the Berniecrats will all give up?

I thought The Revolution (™) was bigger than one person.

[Betty Karlson]

27. No, they will not give up. But they will write off the Democratic Party.

Third Way is a dead end.

[brooklynite]

28. Here's a hint: organizing a new political party is hard work...

It require a bit more effort than anonymous blogging.

[Bob-o the Clown]

29. Here's a hint: Work is already underway

Everyone but you are privy to that information.

[CorkySt.Clair]

30. Yes, not something one can start in mom and dad's basement

Waiting for the loan fairy to write off their college loan debt they accumulated in pursuit of an art degree.

[Betty Karlson]

32. As millennial bashing goes, this one is borderline TOS-breach.

Would you mind toning down a bit?

[CorkySt.Clair]

34. Statistically more millenials live at home than the generations before them.

Sorry stating a fact upsets you.

While we're toning it down, you might want to tell your fellow Berners to tone down the posts on Lolita Express, Whitewater, and other RW generated scandals.

Of course, after Cali votes you won't have to. Skinner will do it for you.

[Betty Karlson]

38. They still live at home because they don't have a job that pays enough for their own place.

And that is thanks to decades of Third-Waying. For you to bash them for the misery YOUR generation created is pretty rich. Especially when doing so in support of a candidate who is the embodiment of Third Way.

[CorkySt.Clair]

39. Yes, I'm sure you believe all of that.

It's much easier than taking personal responsibility and ownership of one's station in life.

Bernie will fix it.

On edit: The irony of someone with a transparency page that's lit up like the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center telling others to "tone it down" is not lost on me.

[Betty Karlson]

40. Horrendously tin-eared and selfish.

[CorkySt.Clair]

41. Right back at you.

The irony of someone with a transparency page that's lit up like the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center telling others to "tone it down" is not lost on me.

[Armstead]

31. Here's a hint -- Maybe the Democratic Party ought to reform itself

I'm sure many of those who are presently disaffected and alienated by its shackles to Big Business and Wall St. would be happy to help out.

It's about time for a new broom there and some reinvigoration The 90's are past their sell-by date, even if Clinton manages to get into the WH.

Might even be good for the nation to have two parties that are actually different on issues of Wealth and Power.

[brooklynite]

42. And they're welcome to...

...all they have to do is give up their holier-than-thou Independent status, register as Democrats, get involved with the actual working process of the Party, and then build a coalition for their approach.

[Armstead]

43. Centrists are holier than thou too....

You're indulging in the nose-in-the-air attitude that anyone who disagrees with the status quo is lazy and shiftless.


I'd also add that building a political campaign from scratch with very little support from the Democratic Machine is not a walk in the park..

[brooklynite]

44. Never said that...

...my only objection is to the people too lazy to do the hard work of political change.

[Armstead]

45. You are stereotyping and attributing it to a political ideology

How many people who support Clinton limit that to an hour at voting time? Most.

[brooklynite]

46. But most of them aren't complaining about the Party organization or its candidates.

[bigwillq]

3. Whenever you want to.

No one is stopping you.

[bigtree]

4. for me, it's rhetorical (apparently, for the author, as well)

Last edited Fri May 27, 2016, 09:13 AM - Edit history (1)

...I'll be damned if I need anyone's permission, especially not from a clinging, losing campaign.

Only4RM @Only4RM
ASTOUNDED by the degree to which white patriarchy, L & R, has been able to squash attention on the HISTORIC nature of @HillaryClinton's run.

[Jarqui]

23. Not to worry

Even if Hillary loses the general election, she'll lie and tell everyone she really won - kind of like her popular vote reasoning against Obama in 2008.

So no need to hold back.

Don't worry. Be Happy !!

[ucrdem]

6. Great pic!

They should put it on a commemorative stamp.

[bigtree]

10. yep! It's the moment Hillary called for the nomination of Barack Obama at the convention

...she told the convention that Obama should be the party's unanimous nominee 'in the spirit of unity, with the goal of victory.'

[pinebox]

7. She's made history alright. First candidate under an FBI investigation! Whoohoo!

[dragonfly301]

9. +1 eom

[NorthCarolina]

24. She's breaking all kinds

of glass ceilings.

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. Herstory.

[Armstead]

35. Theirstory....They being the Rich and powerful

[cali]

11. Spike the football is not the same thing as celebrating Hillary making history

Celebrate away. Spiking the football is stupid.

[grossproffit]

12. Already started.

[baldguy]

13. If Republicans & other Democrat haters had their way, we'd never get to celebrate anything.

[Chan790]

14. The question asked reminds me of Cowboys defensive-tackle Leon Lett.

Don't celebrate the touchdown until you score the touchdown.

[inchhigh]

15. the reason you don't start to celebrate at the 5-yard line

Is that it looks terrible when somebody slaps the ball out of your hand just before you cross the goal line. The balance has clearly shifted in the last couple of days so that it is now more likely than not she will not be the Democratic nominee. Protect the football. It's one thing to get tackled short of the goal, it's another to turn the ball over to the opponent in the process.

[Bluenorthwest]

16. Allowed? Jesus, do as you see fit. Personally, I never, ever claim a thing before it is very much

secured as my own and would never, ever seek to call any victory in advance for anyone I supported in any field. In my own professional world, that's seen as something like bad luck. We say 'don't say it's mine until the ink is dried, until the check clears, until it's in the can'.
That's how I am. It's a tad superstition, partly about elegant forward motion after the fact and a desire to look good and win allies throughout the entire experience.

I'm never going to be the guy holding a victory party the day before a battle. But those who want to, they do not need my permission to do so anymore than I need theirs. It's silly to carry on as if you do need permission. That's an affectation, a passive aggressive tactic. If that is what you want to do, do so.

[HERVEPA]

17. Nobody gives a shit when you celebrate. Sorry, you're not really that important.

Go upstairs and maybe mommy will help you celebrate with some milk and cookies.

[Surya Gayatri]

18. Enormous K & R. Thanks so much for posting.

[Press Virginia]

19. When the indictment is made public

or did you mean winning the nomination?

[MaeScott]

20. Lord have mercy. Bless your heart.

Some of the stellar writing at DK

[TheKentuckian]

21. Allowed? Do what you feel and if it is right then any push back will roll off.

[John Poet]

22. Having a 'presumptive nominee' who has been

lambasted for rule-breaking by State's I.G. report, and under FBI investigation, is indeed "making history",but I don't believe it's worthy of celebration.

[LexVegas]

25. I've been celebrating since March. nt

[oldandhappy]

26. You have many things to celebrate

Don't let the rest of us slow you down. Get out there.

[Armstead]

33. You can celebrate at any time....And others can complain at any time.

Wotta country.

[aikoaiko]

36. Classic HRC supporter playing the victim of a vast conspiracy

The answer is obvious - celebrate when the voting is over at the convention.

[Bread and Circus]

37. Hillary is a rich well connected powerful pro establishment corporate white christian

What is historical in that?

Now Bernie... that would be historic!