WARNING: The Email Scandal will be HIGHLY Exaggerated, Its All They Have Left

[BootinUp]

Its OBVIOUS that the Email scandal is not good news for Clinton. It is ALSO obvious that a good number of Bernie supporters at DU have been distorting the seriousness of it because its all they have left to help their cause. Be on the lookout for RW spin.

[berni_mccoy]

1. Brock, is that you? You sound like Baghdad Bob!

[cwydro]

35. Nice. You call a long-time DUer a Brock shill.

I see this insult all over DU.

It only makes you look desperate that you cannot simply understand that someone disagrees with you and supports another candidate.

Smh.

[berni_mccoy]

41. I thought Hil-fans think Brock is wonderful?

And at least I didn't call him a freeper which he called me in another thread.

[cwydro]

62. Well, I agree that he shouldn't have called you a freeper either.

I like most of my fellow DUers, despite whom they support.

I hope this nastiness goes away soon.

I don't care about Brock one way or another.

[Matt_in_STL]

2. Awesome news. Look, I'll call the FBI and tell them to back the fuck off.

You contact State and tell them they are a bunch of morons who produced a RW report. Shit, who can we get to call the Intelligence people looking into this. No worries, we'll figure this out. Okay, let's get on this before it goes any further.

[IdaBriggs]

4. ^=== WOW!

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. Seconded!

[mindwalker_i]

23. Thirded

!

[k8conant]

27. Fourthed and go Forth!

[840high]

53. Fifted (?) yeah

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Snickering

[libtodeath]

16. Perfect.

[B2G]

32. Nip it! Nip it in the bud!!

[vintx]

45. !!!!

[frylock]

68. RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!

[floriduck]

3. WARNING: Right wing spin in process

"It's OBVIOUS that the Email scandal in not good news for Clinton."

Thank you for your assistance.

[2banon]

5. I regret to be the first to inform you

you're dead wrong about the notion of this being "All they Have Left".

It's just getting started. The Big Right Wing Conspiracy hasn't even begun yet, probably waiting for the "October Surprise", or maybe not until January 2017.

Depends on who is ultimately calling the shots on how this get's played out.

The point is, we've been aware of these very damaging problems for quite a while now.

No big surprises (so far) except apparently to Hillary supporters, oddly enough.

[Avalux]

6. WARNING: The email scandal will be framed as RW spin by Hillary supporters, it's all they have left.

How exactly are Bernie supporters distorting the seriousness of it?

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. ^^^ And there's the truth of it all.

[Skwmom]

7. The money transactions are the far bigger story.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

38. The Clinton Foundation.

That is the mother of all stories. The gods forbid she become the nominee and it break before the election.

[Raster]

57. The Clinton Foundation IS the motherlode. Through her appease-e-otomy SOS position,

....Clinton has been able to pre-sell influence and access to her future Presidency. And those little $250,000-a pop personal fireside chats with the Lords of Money were NOT just opportunities for Clinton to regale the Bill and Hill fans about their years in the White House. The Lords of Money don't like to part with it unless they think they are getting something for their money.

[Trust Buster]

8. Their candidate couldn't win on the merits. We'll see a few Hail Mary pass attempts....LOL

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. New talking point?

[IdaBriggs]

13. At least we've now got them admitting its a scandal.

Should make it easier when the FBI introduced the word "crime" into the conversation.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Stages of grief I suppose as they bullied the other side supporters

I hate to say it, but there is a word that applies here...it starts with an S

[B Calm]

14. Looks that way. No matter how much they spin, this

National Security problem is not going away. She is a flawed candidate and if she don't drop out now, I fear Trump may have a real chance of winning this election. This whole Democratic primary has been a sham from the get--go all thanks to Hillary and the DNC oligarchy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. I know I went from RW conspiracy to it is serious

Instantly, after reading one of those emails that I know was born classified.

[hellofromreddit]

17. Exaggerated? Like chairs raining down?

[asuhornets]

18. Agreed...n/t

[FSogol]

19. Too late.

[morningfog]

21. There is no need to exaggerate it. The OIG said she violated the law.

The goal post defense is now "she did not violate any criminal law."

Yet the OIG report raised far more questions than it answered, particularly since Hillary and her crew refused to cooperate with the OIG. The FBI has no doubt answered those questions by now.

[Iliyah]

22. And Benghazi is not over too. RWers with corporate media coupled with LWers

will go on and on even tho there is nothing there with both Benghazi and e-mail. Then you have transcripts. Then they will try something else. On top of it, RWers coupled with corporate media & LWers will harp on 20-25 years of non-scandals.

HRC is much hated and no one trust her, blah blah blah. Meanwhile, HRC goes to the WH.

Same thing happened to President Obama and is happening to him now. RW hatred of those who is not pure like them, kinda sounds like another group.

[floppyboo]

37. 81% of the population don't think she is trstworthy. That's a big RW!!!

[mmonk]

24. "They"

[Throd]

25. Frank Drebin, is that you?

[1StrongBlackMan]

26. I'll post this, again ...

It seems that there are Policies and Regulations (which the report indicates were violated) and Agency/Office/Departmental Practices (which the report indicates were followed, instead).

It would seem, the only folks that would be outraged by the following of Agency/Office/Departmental Practices over the Policies and Regulations, would be partisan, agenda pushers; or, people that have never worked a job, or are willing to ignore what they experienced/learned on that job.

Agency/Office/Departmental Practices that conflict with Policies and Regulations develop over time as work-arounds for those doing the day to day work because the Policies and Regulations are too unyielding. Further, the work-arounds are never an issue unless/until something goes wrong. In this case, the "go wrong" was the right needed a stick ... the bigger "go wrong" is Bernie supporters are proving, more than willing to swing that stick.

Finally, I will say ... my, above, Bernie supporters comment is based how they are presenting themselves on DU. And, I limit it to DU, because I really never hear or see the topic outside of DU ... other than from naked partisans of the right. But that said, looking at the body of the posts/arguments of the most outraged DUers, I am starting to doubt their presentation as Bernie supporters.

[riversedge]

43. k.

[NCTraveler]

28. They will continually move goal posts as time goes on.

In a month they will be demanding the FBI find and question a guy named Vince who called into C SPAN. They will say he sounded very credible and might have new information.

The potential new witnesses include one individual who made claims on a talk radio program hosted by Sean Hannity and another who posted on Facebook that he was a crew member who helped scramble jets at an airbase but that the alert to respond never came.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/benghazi-committee-trey-gowdy-house-democrats/

[riversedge]

47. gawds--Gowdy actually wasted tax money and interviewed him......I did not

know of this stupidness. thanks for post


...The potential new witnesses include one individual who made claims on a talk radio program hosted by Sean Hannity and another who posted on Facebook that he was a crew member who helped scramble jets at an airbase but that the alert to respond never came.


The Pentagon's Assistant Secretary of Defense, Stephen Hedger, complained in a letter to Gowdy in late April that these requests were redundant and required excessive time and expense, and come at what many expect is the end of the investigation.


That Pentagon pushback triggered a blistering response from Gowdy, who wrote to Carter, "I would rather risk interviewing a witness in good faith, who ultimately produces little probative information, than risk not interviewing one who does."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/benghazi-committee-trey-gowdy-house-democrats/

[NCTraveler]

48. You are very welcome.

I have posted some ops on it in the past. It is a perfect display of arrogance leading to extreme desperation.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. The perception of wrongdoing is often as damaging is the reality of wrongdoing.

What effect will the wrongdoing, or perception of wrongdoing, for Hillary's trustworthiness problem?

[Jarqui]

30. The polls will render the decision about this

From the tone of the mainstream media covering it, I don't think it's going to be good for Hillary. More of her lies about it have been exposed.

Cheryl Mills is being deposed today in one of the two of the 38 civil actions for Hillary's emails/state department records that are allowing depositions. Cheryl was successful in blocking audio visual of her testimony but the transcripts of all testimony will be publicly available. Lukens deposition transcript was released a day or two ago.

The depositions for Judge Sullivan will run throughout June. And Hillary herself may be called to testify. You think folks are going to ignore that?

Then there will be depositions for Judge Royce Lamberth probably starting in July and maybe finishing with Hillary herself once again.

Then or somewhere during the above, the upcoming Inspector General of the Intelligence Community's report is going to be released which is very likely to be worse bad news for Hillary. There's no way he can look the other way on what she did with classified material. She's going to get whacked and deservedly so.

Then we get the results of the FBI investigation which may punt to the Dept of Justice to determine if she is to be indicted. Another public debate about her criminal responsibility chews up valuable media cycles to drive her numbers down. A debate about whether a candidate for president is a criminal is not good for the candidate.

While all that is going on, the Senate and House Committees will weigh in and from what I've seen, she's flirting with contempt or obstruction of justice on top of the violations for breaking the FOIA laws and maybe criminal laws for her mishandling of classified material.

Whether she gets indicted or not, there will be a national media debate in the mainstream media while all this stuff goes down and there's no upside for her in the polls for any of this.

So that is "all they have left to help their cause" ... on the email scandal ... which is a sinkable boatload for a candidate for president

I think the scandal that will drive a stake into her chances is the Clinton Foundation. As I've said before, even if she's innocent, it's impossible to credibly defend those allegations between now and November - particularly in the wake of so many lies about the emails. So don't overlook that in the GOP arsenal. They've barely got started on that one for obvious reasons - they want to stir it up in the fall.

Bernie is an honorable and honest man in my opinion. Taking the high road on this stuff may have done the party a disservice because Hillary is very exposed for the general election.

I think the polls will decide who is right or wrong about this in terms of her electability. I have been concerned about it since day 1. It is startling to look like my worst fears are being realized. Hopefully, the Clinton campaign has something up their sleeve or someone has worse stuff on Trump.

This mess has sucked my left wing political heart dry.

[BootinUp]

33. There IS NO scandal about the Clinton Foundation.

Again I must caution readers where they get their news if they think the Clinton Foundation can be seriously painted as scandalous. And before anyone brings up conflict of interest, I will remind them, that Hillary is not President yet. We have yet to see how she will avoid such appearances, but I have no doubt she will make every effort to do so.

I have one prediction only on the email scandal. The FBI will exonerate her of breaking any laws. At that point, the public which already believes it is a non-issue by most polls I have seen, will be completely ready to move on. And if that does not happen before the election, then her enemies can continue to sort through the 55,000 pages she has released, deperately looking for something damaging that they will not find.

[Jarqui]

39. There was no scandal about John Kerry's valor during the Vietnam war ...

It's their modus operandi. Their quest for power will not take a pass on the Clinton Foundation. I guarantee it. They're going to hammer the Clintons for getting rich by hobnobbing with the wealthy and powerful and how much the Clinton Foundation soured financially while Hillary was in office - even though folks like Sidney Blumenthal were secretly on it's payroll.

I can't stand people like Karl Rove but they're not stupid. They'll have zero reservations going after her for this and the trouble is, like any good conspiracy theory that's hard to refute, the core facts are true. Like the boy who cried Wolf!!!, Hillary will be in denial .... like she was during the email scandal and got caught in a lot of lies ... like she has much of her political life in Washington.

So a lot of Americans are going to believe the innuendo - even if it's untrue - because it's difficult to disprove and the candidate's untrustworthiness is already at horrific levels.

Brace yourself. They're not going to take a pass on this one. They're going to hurt her politically. It's coming.

[BootinUp]

40. You ignore the Clinton's Teams skills in dealing with that. nt

[Jarqui]

44. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" ?

or how about how she's handled this email scandal that will continue to haunt her until November?

You also have to remember that it's one thing to handle a scandal when you're already in office. But another when it comes up during your campaign. Ask Gary Hart.

[BootinUp]

46. Well, you haven't lessened my confidence with that nt.

[Jarqui]

49. I sincerely hope you are right and I am wrong

because the results if I am right could be President Trump. I think all Sanders and Clinton supporters would cringe or worse at that.

[frylock]

69. What, like delaying the release of the Rose Law docs that lead to the disclosure of the blue dress?

Those kinds of skills?

[JoePhilly]

31. yup ... they've given up all pretenses.

[EndElectoral]

34. Frankly, the email scandal was bad judgment, but it pales in terms of HCR's other judgments.,

[winter is coming]

36. Highly exaggerated? Hillary's just handed Trump a bunch of damaging commercials.

All he has to do is run clips of her saying things like "it was allowed and above-board" followed by excerpts from the IG report showing that she told a bald-faced lie on camera. That'll surely inspire people to vote for her.

[riversedge]

42. Many Sanders fans and RW fans post the same article-and the same smears.

[Raster]

59. Learn it. Not going away. And attempting to shift the focus to the messenger...

...is not going to happen. And guess what? There is still more to come in the Clinton sagas. Much more.

[riversedge]

61. my post is true. Live with it.

[Cobalt Violet]

50. she's been flat out lying to our faces for a year about it.

We saw it with our own eyes. Not a very good thing for someone who already has major trust issues with voters.

No right or left wing spin or opionion is need. We can see it 1st hand ourselves.

[merrily]

51. LOL! Wait until you see what Trump does with the email cover up alone--and other things.

[CanadaexPat]

52. By they you mean the IG and FBI?

[elleng]

54. Be on the lookout for 'establishment' ignoring need for GOOD JUDGMENT in POTUS candidates.

[leveymg]

55. That's what the GOP faithful still say about Watergate. "Just a third-rate burglary attempt."

[BootinUp]

56. You kill me. nt

[leveymg]

58. I wouldn't do it, but respect your right to end your own unendurable pain.

Flowers or contribution? Any particular charity?

[rock]

60. Well you can see why this is such a big deal for a couple of reasons

Those huge sums of money she made off the deal and the even huger political power she was able to wield! The profits off of this con are so huge the mob was wanting in. Yeah,

[polly7]

63. How do you exaggerate destroying the lives of millions? nt.

[BootinUp]

65. SMH.

[polly7]

66. Yeah, that's how I felt watching all that horror in real time and seeing

what it's caused every day since.

[Vinca]

64. The IG's report was much worse than I had expected and I was expecting a bad report.

Add to that "Guccifer" making a deal last week and it's not an optimistic scenario. People need to take off their rose-colored glasses. It is not outside the realm of possibility that the worse case scenario could happen.

[frylock]

67. bahahahahaha!!!

Comedy gold!