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brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:38 PM May 2016

Question to Bernie supporters: will you call on Republicans to impeach President Clinton?

From what I'm reading lately, you think the email story rises to the level of disqualifying incompetence, if not criminal activity. If Clinton gets elected, will you have the courage of your convictions and call for her impeachment?

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Question to Bernie supporters: will you call on Republicans to impeach President Clinton? (Original Post) brooklynite May 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #1
+1 JoePhilly May 2016 #3
They should will be batting a zero average this cycle KingFlorez May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #6
18 more days nt geek tragedy May 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #15
your wish doesn't trump the votes of a majority of Democrats, nt geek tragedy May 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #17
tinfoil conspiracy theories are not factual arguments nt geek tragedy May 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #20
It seems that your mind is so free it has left you... LuvLoogie May 2016 #53
Don't you know geek, Hillary has control of the machines. Darb May 2016 #25
And I, her one-eyed minion, vote early and often... LuvLoogie May 2016 #57
But to whine about one that isn't rigged rock May 2016 #48
Brocktastic! frylock May 2016 #36
+1 nt NCTraveler May 2016 #45
Call on republicans? SmittynMo May 2016 #2
Exactly. Nixon was done when his party realized he was a crook... Yurovsky May 2016 #68
Nobody has to. She dug that hole herself. Katashi_itto May 2016 #4
if HRC becomes the president, there won't be any calling necessary 0rganism May 2016 #7
As a Hillary supporter Txbluedog May 2016 #21
Just saw a long-time poster cite JONAH FUCKING GOLDBERG emulatorloo May 2016 #8
We're trying to avoid all that by winning. mmonk May 2016 #9
too late, now it's just 18 more days of acting out nt geek tragedy May 2016 #13
Is it that long? Darb May 2016 #22
Last primary vote is D.C. on June 14. If Sanders doesn't concede before then, geek tragedy May 2016 #24
Promise? Darb May 2016 #28
yep, jury system allowed this place to turn into an extension of Breitbart geek tragedy May 2016 #33
Agreed. Darb May 2016 #35
whenever I find myself writing something inflammatory, I go back and replace it with "18 more days" geek tragedy May 2016 #37
Can I use it? Darb May 2016 #40
Yes, I think we should all do it, until the Great Enema occurs nt geek tragedy May 2016 #42
Jesus fuck, dude. Did socialists steal your lunch money as a child? blackspade May 2016 #39
Wrong. Darb May 2016 #41
there's nothing socialist about pimping Breitbart and NY Post stories about eGhazi. geek tragedy May 2016 #43
I think he/she just wanted an opportunity to use the "did a socialist steal your lunch" line....N/t Henhouse May 2016 #66
Doubt they will... SidDithers May 2016 #10
As in "Stick a fork in her. She's done." aikoaiko May 2016 #61
When is Hillary Clinton to be interviewed by the FBI? PufPuf23 May 2016 #12
She can't beat Trump if running so the question should be will Sanders support impeachment of Trump? imagine2015 May 2016 #14
Nice! findrskeep May 2016 #49
Yes. If she broke the law. masmdu May 2016 #19
Question for you. JackRiddler May 2016 #23
No, we will ask President Sanders to pardon her. lagomorph777 May 2016 #26
Don't be ridiculous. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #27
No sense crossing that bridge until after we see who the new President is. merrily May 2016 #29
She's stumbling badly here in CA. ucrdem May 2016 #30
LOL! senz May 2016 #31
Nah, we'll just vote her out in 2020, proceedings or not. floriduck May 2016 #32
I don't understand impeaching a president based on info the American ppl knew when they voted JonLeibowitz May 2016 #34
Dumb. cali May 2016 #38
If she's indicted for crimes, or convicted of crimes, I'd call on the Democrats to impeach her. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #44
Question to you. NCTraveler May 2016 #46
At start of primaries DU was 90% Bernie. chknltl May 2016 #62
I'm not sure how that would confirm my thoughts. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #63
Cross check names with time as DUer. chknltl May 2016 #64
If it was proved to be fact would Hillary supporters? libtodeath May 2016 #47
Dumb! B Calm May 2016 #50
Another useful contribution from Brooklynite Scootaloo May 2016 #51
Pretty sure we leftinportland May 2016 #52
As a Democrat why would I want a Democratic President impeached? gordianot May 2016 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #55
No need. They'll do it regardless. Nt HooptieWagon May 2016 #56
If Colin Powell did it, so can Hill. With no legal wrongdoing precedent, that move will go nowhere. ancianita May 2016 #58
Colin Powell did NOT have a private server, attempt to evade FOIA, IdaBriggs Jun 2016 #71
Fair points. This argument can't be used by a yuuge fraudulent opponent who's a more dishonest ancianita Jun 2016 #73
A criminal indictment against Hillary has nothing to do with Bernie. IdaBriggs Jun 2016 #76
... the more I learn the more I do writhe, and I so want to trust Hillary... ancianita Jun 2016 #77
the standard for impeachment is high crimes and misdemeanours PaulaFarrell May 2016 #59
Hey, I think she deserves a fair trial before rateyes May 2016 #60
She will never be president, so moot issue amborin May 2016 #65
If she's elected nothing could stop the republicans so this is an idiotic question. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #67
Desperate FIRE sector flame bait. Agony May 2016 #69
If the FBI recommends indictment, but the DOJ decides not to prosecute IdaBriggs Jun 2016 #70
Absolutely not. Shameful flamebait nt riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #72
No, but to be impeached you must first be elected, NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #74
Nothing we say, nothing we do, has any influence on the Democratic party... lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #75

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Darb

(2,807 posts)
25. Don't you know geek, Hillary has control of the machines.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

Except when she lets the Repubes have control during the mid-terms. They share the access.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
2. Call on republicans?
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

I'm pretty sure that won't be necessary. Facts usually generate impeachment all by itself.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
68. Exactly. Nixon was done when his party realized he was a crook...
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016

If facts demonstrate HRC broke the law, after a presumed Clinton victory in November, I would hope that all members of the House would vote to impeach and the Seante trial would produce a conviction. I would hope for the same result if Bernie won and was determined to have committed high crimes and misdemeanors.

The law should apply to EVERYONE. Breaking the law shouldn't be ignored simply because the lawbreaker shares your party affiliation.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
7. if HRC becomes the president, there won't be any calling necessary
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

the GOP-controlled house probably already has draft versions for the articles of impeachment they'll roll out in February 2017. i was hoping for Democratic control of the senate, but if HRC becomes even less popular her coat tails are going to shrink commensurately. still hoping for 45+ which should prevent removal from office.

not really a SBS supporter myself, but your question seemed... redundant.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
21. As a Hillary supporter
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

I am pretty confident that the republicans in the house will file impeachment proceeding while she is still delivering her Inaguration address, after all they have a well earned reputation as obstuctionists to live up to

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
8. Just saw a long-time poster cite JONAH FUCKING GOLDBERG
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

as some kind of "truth teller."

Happily quickly hidden although got some positive me-too type support before it was gone.

That being said, don't confuse real world supporters w posters on an anonymous internet board

Were you around in 2014 and the "Great Reveal" on election night? Not everybody on DU is who they say they are.

FWIW I actually sorta think this poster's acct has been hacked.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. Last primary vote is D.C. on June 14. If Sanders doesn't concede before then,
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:21 PM
May 2016

this place will stop being a haven for Trump and Nader types as of that date.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
37. whenever I find myself writing something inflammatory, I go back and replace it with "18 more days"
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016

Tomorrow, it will be "17 more days"

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
39. Jesus fuck, dude. Did socialists steal your lunch money as a child?
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:34 PM
May 2016

You diminish the Democratic party and your chosen candidate with these childish outbursts.
Talk about "acting out"

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
43. there's nothing socialist about pimping Breitbart and NY Post stories about eGhazi.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:38 PM
May 2016

It's not the socialism, it's the rightwing crapola and obvious attempts to help Trump vis a vis Clinton.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
14. She can't beat Trump if running so the question should be will Sanders support impeachment of Trump?
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:09 PM
May 2016
YES!

Of course .... and prison time for any criminal operations and activity uncovererd.

But again, Clinton would actually have to capture the nomination.

And with a Trump loss tof Bernie we'll be just fine.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
23. Question for you.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:21 PM
May 2016

When Clinton launches a first-strike nuclear war on Russia, will you support it?

Not that this will happen, but as long as your are acting like a cheap partisans and asking leading questions to provoke stupid responses, why not?

Jury, be fair!

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
34. I don't understand impeaching a president based on info the American ppl knew when they voted
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:28 PM
May 2016

However, if Clinton lies to the FBI and this is proven then she should be impeached. Of course, that is a lot of hypotheticals. So for now I'll say "No"

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
46. Question to you.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016

Do you think a majority of those you are addressing are even Sanders supporters?

I don't think so. We are rapidly becoming a site welcoming to scum like Fox News, Judicial Watch, National Review, Brietbart, etc. It's overwhelmingly coming from "Sanders" supporters.

Their desperation is either off the charts or they are in Trumps corner.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
62. At start of primaries DU was 90% Bernie.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016

2 different polls, one while we had 3 candidates and the second when we had only 2 had Bernie favored 9 to Hillary's 1. I suppose, despite all the vitriol, Hillary's poll numbers may have improved around here.

Perhaps you might try a new poll to see if the numbers or especially the names have changed significantly.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
64. Cross check names with time as DUer.
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

If majority are new DUers this adds a line of argument for, if majority are long time DUers this adds line of argument against what you say.

The longer the membership the less likely they are to be disruptors from outside the Democratic Party.

Where it is easy for us at DU to point out that the Republican Party is Of/By/For highest bidders, that it does not serve the majority interests of it's voting electorate, we IMO, can not seem to agree that this condition now infects our own party. IMO we 90% are not employed to be disruptors, we fight against the finalising of the hostile takeover of our government by the powers of greed.

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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
71. Colin Powell did NOT have a private server, attempt to evade FOIA,
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:39 AM
Jun 2016

keep government records in his basement after he left office, fail to report someone without security clearance having access to classified information or have a spouse accepting money from foreign governments while he was Secretary of State.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
73. Fair points. This argument can't be used by a yuuge fraudulent opponent who's a more dishonest
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

fraud against tens of thousands of investors, communities and employees than a secretary of state who has not caused any risk to national security. If she had, there would be a hint of this. It will be the clues that Obama drops that tell us if she deserves indictment.

Classified info throughout this government has never been the boss of any Secretary of State. That's the kind of power they have.
 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
76. A criminal indictment against Hillary has nothing to do with Bernie.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

And you are incorrect about the risks to national security; Time Magazine already did one story quoting from a highly placed official dealing with operations in the Phillapines that stopped having problems when Hillary's team was no longer informed about planned missions.

That is one known example, with the fact the hacker Guccifer was able to post the name of an operative on the internet being another because of the Blumenthal issue. We may not be alive by the time the full extent of the damage is revealed due to the national security concerns (7 chains of 22 were deemed to pose a beyind Top Secret risk and she told them to "show everyone" in a total "f you" to that community).

The more one learns, the more dangerously unqualified for office Hillary becomes. The idea of putting her in charge of people who we demand follow rules and regulations to the letter regardless of convenience -- the NSA, CIA, FBI, DOJ, and military personnel, for example -- should make decent Americans writhe in shame.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
77. ... the more I learn the more I do writhe, and I so want to trust Hillary...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016

But I doubt her transparency the way I doubt Obama's, and defer to her judgment about what will secure or endanger our freedoms. I'll decide to be trusting but not naive. As long as she isn't guilty of high crimes I'll support her. There are plenty enough leaks from Snowden, et.al., to show that many insiders in this government could be indicted along the same lines.




This is the convention dividing line between Berners and Hillers. It will drive us crazy and cause us to lose if NoDrought Donnie hammers away at it.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
59. the standard for impeachment is high crimes and misdemeanours
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

Not incompetence. If she is found guilty of a serious crime, that's different, and I would hope anyone with integrity would not choose to ignore that just because of her party label. I doubt whatever she's done, if anything, warrants that. But I think the VP choice is critical this year.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
70. If the FBI recommends indictment, but the DOJ decides not to prosecute
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jun 2016

due to political reasons, YES.

Hopefully none of those things will come to pass.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
74. No, but to be impeached you must first be elected,
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jun 2016

and unless they have the EVM's programmed for peak Dem vote efficiency, she'll never be 45.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
75. Nothing we say, nothing we do, has any influence on the Democratic party...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

... why do you think our influence will be any more with Republicans in congress?

Everything you're doing guarantees it. If, out of spite, we nominate the worst Democrat we can find, and if she wins the GE, she won't bring coattails that win control of the house or senate.

If Clinton loses the election, of if she's promptly impeached, it won't be my fault. That's on you.

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