2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQuestion to Bernie supporters: will you call on Republicans to impeach President Clinton?
From what I'm reading lately, you think the email story rises to the level of disqualifying incompetence, if not criminal activity. If Clinton gets elected, will you have the courage of your convictions and call for her impeachment?
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LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)or maybe it has just taken a vacation.
Darb
(2,807 posts)Except when she lets the Repubes have control during the mid-terms. They share the access.
LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)Is a sore loser. And that is what we have here.
frylock
(34,825 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I'm pretty sure that won't be necessary. Facts usually generate impeachment all by itself.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)If facts demonstrate HRC broke the law, after a presumed Clinton victory in November, I would hope that all members of the House would vote to impeach and the Seante trial would produce a conviction. I would hope for the same result if Bernie won and was determined to have committed high crimes and misdemeanors.
The law should apply to EVERYONE. Breaking the law shouldn't be ignored simply because the lawbreaker shares your party affiliation.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)0rganism
(23,955 posts)the GOP-controlled house probably already has draft versions for the articles of impeachment they'll roll out in February 2017. i was hoping for Democratic control of the senate, but if HRC becomes even less popular her coat tails are going to shrink commensurately. still hoping for 45+ which should prevent removal from office.
not really a SBS supporter myself, but your question seemed... redundant.
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)I am pretty confident that the republicans in the house will file impeachment proceeding while she is still delivering her Inaguration address, after all they have a well earned reputation as obstuctionists to live up to
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)as some kind of "truth teller."
Happily quickly hidden although got some positive me-too type support before it was gone.
That being said, don't confuse real world supporters w posters on an anonymous internet board
Were you around in 2014 and the "Great Reveal" on election night? Not everybody on DU is who they say they are.
FWIW I actually sorta think this poster's acct has been hacked.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Darb
(2,807 posts)Damn, I vom daily coming here.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)this place will stop being a haven for Trump and Nader types as of that date.
Darb
(2,807 posts)Will Skinner shut them down? This is fucking pathetic.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Darb
(2,807 posts)I had a post pulled just a little while ago. "No explanation given" mostly.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Tomorrow, it will be "17 more days"
Darb
(2,807 posts)Don't mean to be a copycat, but I am pissed off and riding that line.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)You diminish the Democratic party and your chosen candidate with these childish outbursts.
Talk about "acting out"
Jussayin'. Apparently, you cannot see it. We can. It is pathetic.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)It's not the socialism, it's the rightwing crapola and obvious attempts to help Trump vis a vis Clinton.
Henhouse
(646 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)but they'll gleefully be shouting "SHE'S DONE!!" if it the Republicans do.
Sid
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)I've seen that somewhere.
PufPuf23
(8,776 posts)Need to tell truth talking to FBI.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Of course .... and prison time for any criminal operations and activity uncovererd.
But again, Clinton would actually have to capture the nomination.
And with a Trump loss tof Bernie we'll be just fine.
findrskeep
(713 posts)masmdu
(2,536 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)When Clinton launches a first-strike nuclear war on Russia, will you support it?
Not that this will happen, but as long as your are acting like a cheap partisans and asking leading questions to provoke stupid responses, why not?
Jury, be fair!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)So we can get on with restoring the middle class.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,705 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)A real trainwreck.
senz
(11,945 posts)Nice try.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)However, if Clinton lies to the FBI and this is proven then she should be impeached. Of course, that is a lot of hypotheticals. So for now I'll say "No"
cali
(114,904 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Do you think a majority of those you are addressing are even Sanders supporters?
I don't think so. We are rapidly becoming a site welcoming to scum like Fox News, Judicial Watch, National Review, Brietbart, etc. It's overwhelmingly coming from "Sanders" supporters.
Their desperation is either off the charts or they are in Trumps corner.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)2 different polls, one while we had 3 candidates and the second when we had only 2 had Bernie favored 9 to Hillary's 1. I suppose, despite all the vitriol, Hillary's poll numbers may have improved around here.
Perhaps you might try a new poll to see if the numbers or especially the names have changed significantly.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)If majority are new DUers this adds a line of argument for, if majority are long time DUers this adds line of argument against what you say.
The longer the membership the less likely they are to be disruptors from outside the Democratic Party.
Where it is easy for us at DU to point out that the Republican Party is Of/By/For highest bidders, that it does not serve the majority interests of it's voting electorate, we IMO, can not seem to agree that this condition now infects our own party. IMO we 90% are not employed to be disruptors, we fight against the finalising of the hostile takeover of our government by the powers of greed.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)leftinportland
(247 posts)won't have to...they'll do it all on their own.
gordianot
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HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)ancianita
(36,058 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)keep government records in his basement after he left office, fail to report someone without security clearance having access to classified information or have a spouse accepting money from foreign governments while he was Secretary of State.
ancianita
(36,058 posts)fraud against tens of thousands of investors, communities and employees than a secretary of state who has not caused any risk to national security. If she had, there would be a hint of this. It will be the clues that Obama drops that tell us if she deserves indictment.
Classified info throughout this government has never been the boss of any Secretary of State. That's the kind of power they have.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)And you are incorrect about the risks to national security; Time Magazine already did one story quoting from a highly placed official dealing with operations in the Phillapines that stopped having problems when Hillary's team was no longer informed about planned missions.
That is one known example, with the fact the hacker Guccifer was able to post the name of an operative on the internet being another because of the Blumenthal issue. We may not be alive by the time the full extent of the damage is revealed due to the national security concerns (7 chains of 22 were deemed to pose a beyind Top Secret risk and she told them to "show everyone" in a total "f you" to that community).
The more one learns, the more dangerously unqualified for office Hillary becomes. The idea of putting her in charge of people who we demand follow rules and regulations to the letter regardless of convenience -- the NSA, CIA, FBI, DOJ, and military personnel, for example -- should make decent Americans writhe in shame.
ancianita
(36,058 posts)But I doubt her transparency the way I doubt Obama's, and defer to her judgment about what will secure or endanger our freedoms. I'll decide to be trusting but not naive. As long as she isn't guilty of high crimes I'll support her. There are plenty enough leaks from Snowden, et.al., to show that many insiders in this government could be indicted along the same lines.
This is the convention dividing line between Berners and Hillers. It will drive us crazy and cause us to lose if NoDrought Donnie hammers away at it.
PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)Not incompetence. If she is found guilty of a serious crime, that's different, and I would hope anyone with integrity would not choose to ignore that just because of her party label. I doubt whatever she's done, if anything, warrants that. But I think the VP choice is critical this year.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)The election.
amborin
(16,631 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Moot, and idiotic.
Agony
(2,605 posts)sad
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)due to political reasons, YES.
Hopefully none of those things will come to pass.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)and unless they have the EVM's programmed for peak Dem vote efficiency, she'll never be 45.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)... why do you think our influence will be any more with Republicans in congress?
Everything you're doing guarantees it. If, out of spite, we nominate the worst Democrat we can find, and if she wins the GE, she won't bring coattails that win control of the house or senate.
If Clinton loses the election, of if she's promptly impeached, it won't be my fault. That's on you.