First "Shocking" Deposition In Clinton Email Case Reveals She Did Not Use A Password

[LiberalArkie]

U.S. Ambassador Lewis Lukens’s sworn testimony in the case of Hillary Clinton’s privatization of the U.S. Secretary of State’s email is the first evidence to be released in the Clinton email cases, and it was published on May 26th at the website of Judicial Watch, the organization that originally brought the suit. Headlining "First Deposition Testimony from Clinton Email Discovery Released”, it reported that:

Snip

He was asked about the inconvenience of the State Department’s passwords system, and he said that he eliminated her need for any passwords:

A: She wouldn’t have had a password.
Q: So the computer would have just been open and be able to use without going through any security features?
A: Correct.

Snip

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-27/first-shocking-deposition-clinton-email-case-reveals-she-did-not-use-password

[bkkyosemite]

1. You are fricken kidding me...I'm posting this on FB.

If this is true she put the United States in danger.

[lmbradford]

38. OMG!!!!

I just left the room screaming. I cannot believe this woman!!! All of the personnel and state secrets exposed for anyone to see without even a f"""""ing password? This is agregious behavior. if she doesn't go to jail for this, I'm going to be pissed. My daughter and other military have probably been compromised as well.

[pmorlan1]

68. Incorrect

Read the testimony.

They offered to give her this computer at the State Dept. but it was NEVER set up and therefore NEVER used. If it had been set up and if she had used it then having no password would have been crazy. But, it was never set up and she never used it. This is a non-story.

I remember news pieces prior to this testimony that said the same thing. She never had a State Dept. computer.

[pnwmom]

79. Except she didn't use the State Department's email system. nt

[uponit7771]

2. Who cares? tia

[HooptieWagon]

5. FBI, for starters.

It appears Clintons instructions were for no security measures whatsoever. That's gross negligence.

[uponit7771]

110. FBI doesn't care she left the cover page off the TPS report

[CentralMass]

11. Many people care.

She wasn't running a flower shop.she was handling state secrets.

[Fawke Em]

19. Even if she was running a flower shop, she'd need security to meet compliance.

Unless it was a cash-only shop.

Merchants who use credit/debit cards have to meet PCI compliance or face a shit-ton of fines.

Seems our Secretary of State, who viewed our nation's deepest security secrets, had less security than Mom & Pop's Flower Shop on the corner.

[CentralMass]

21. +1

[uponit7771]

111. Yes, they're mostly called republicans and most of them are stupid enough to vote for Bush twice

[Gore1FL]

13. Anyone who has the first clue about data security. nt

[Shemp Howard]

14. Who cares? A US asset (informant) would care.

Anyone who tells something to the State Department in confidence would care. Anyone who spies on the behalf of the United States would care. Anyone whose life depends on staying hidden would care.

Need I go on?

[Fawke Em]

17. As a citizen of the United States, I do.

What hubris.

[840high]

50. me2

[uponit7771]

112. Shocking

[Fantastic Anarchist]

118. I care, as well.

To some, it seems Clinton can do no wrong.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

27. You owe Scooter Libby and David Patreaus apologies.

[roguevalley]

28. who cares? people who have a soul. How many dead people are there out there who were

killed because she didn't even have a password. Imagine this. If there is no password, every hacker passing by doesn't need to do more than click the icons for them to open. WTF. Who cares? Yikes.

[uponit7771]

113. lol...so people who don't care about Clinton leaving cover page off TPS report are soulless? lol@HDS

[libtodeath]

36. What an embarrassing and shameful response.

This person could hand the White House to tRump.

[uponit7771]

115. Donald Chump raped 2 women, this doesn't rise to the level of damn for me so I'm not giving it

... one.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

119. It's almost like it's possible to be concerned about ...

... two or more different things at the same time.

[Matt_R]

142. I think your looking for General Discussion...

if your talking about the republican front runner. Maybe we could keep GD-P Democrat only.

[boomer55]

66. you should and if you dont you are either willfully ignorant or out of touch with the 21st century

[uponit7771]

114. No, I don't really care that Clinton didn't put a return label on the ground package.

[Scootaloo]

103. The motto of HIlalry supporters everywhere

[cpwm17]

3. Rules are for the little guy:

https://theintercept.com/2015/08/12/hillary-clinton-sanctity-protecting-classified-information/?comments=1#comments

In December 2011, Chelsea Manning’s court-martial was set to begin. None of the documents at issue in that prosecution was “top secret,” unlike the documents found on Hillary Clinton’s server. Nonetheless, the then-secretary of state convened a press conference to denounce Manning and defend the prosecution. This is what she said:

If his case goes to trial and he is convicted, Manning could face life in prison. The government has said it would not seek the death penalty.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called Manning’s alleged actions damaging and unfortunate in remarks to reporters at the State Department on Thursday.

“I think that in an age where so much information is flying through cyberspace, we all have to be aware of the fact that some information which is sensitive, which does affect the security of individuals and relationships, deserves to be protected and we will continue to take necessary steps to do so,” Clinton said.

[Wilms]

4. And she expects to handle nuclear codes?

[HooptieWagon]

7. She could email the codes to the Russians....

...but they would have them before she hit 'send'.

[Alex4Martinez]

6. Or, when she did need a password she used "password".

Because who would ever guess?

[LiberalArkie]

9. Nope, she had it set up for no password at all.

[roguevalley]

30. I remember when everyone found out that Assad's Syria had these passwords:

123abc

At least he had one. She didn't. For god sake.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

120. Literally worse than Assad.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Whaaaaaa?!

[felix_numinous]

10. Yikes

That sound you hear is the alphabet agencies' collective facepalm

[hollysmom]

12. ol righty then we have a completely non-techy who is pretending to be techie,

There is no excuse for that, everything has to be easy in an unsecure world - no wonder she flies in private jets - they don't have to go through security lines do the? Someone who understands how the hoi polloi live?

[Gore1FL]

15. Her not using a password is as bizarre as G.H.W. Bush being awed by price scanners at checkouts. nt

[tularetom]

16. I "think" she might be a crook, but I "know" she's too stupid to be president

And the last thing we need in the white house is a stupid crook.

[840high]

53. and greedy as all hell

[EndElectoral]

18. Is this the Onion?

[nc4bo]

20. No way. There is just no damn way this is true. Just hell no way.

I have a hard time believing this...........

[democrattotheend]

124. Unless it were set up in a way that eliminated the need for passwords

I don't fully understand how it works, but there is a secure way to set up a connection so that a password is not needed because everyone has their own key that is tied to their machine. If this is how it was set up it's okay - some even think it's more secure.

[snappyturtle]

140. Here: Below is a link on Judicial Watch to the transcript of the deposition (PDF)

Read. It says it's 124 pages....the testimony is about 80 of that and goes very fast.

I read it in the wee hours today....seemingly HRC is not all that great with emails, passwords, etc. PLUS her office was in a secure zone that outlaws this electronic hoopla...it's a mess.

Do yourself a favor and read it.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/JW-v.-State-Lukens-Testimony-01363.pdf

They were looking for ways to access her BB (blackberry)....if I got the drift right. It WAS the wee hours....teehee!

EDIT: about page 36 is where you need to look....but promise me, you'll read in it's entirety as time allows!

[frylock]

22. Just smdh

[tomm2thumbs]

23. * the nuclear codes will be on a post-it note on the screen (just fyi in case you need 'em)

just remember to crumple your important confidential papers so no one thinks to uncrumple them and read them

[Fawke Em]

55. #HillarySoTechSavvy

[Land of Enchantment]

59. Thread winner! nt

[Aerows]

135. Here's a real winner ...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/launch-code-for-us-nukes-was-00000000-for-20-years/

Launch code for nukes was 00000000 for 20 years!

[tomm2thumbs]

136. something even Bush could remember

scary

[Buns_of_Fire]

144. "Hello, President Bush. How about a nice game of tic-tac-toe?"

Trouble is, he probably would have lost, and we'd all be krispy kritters by now.

[Shemp Howard]

24. In Hillary's defense, passwords are hard.

Some sites require your password to have both letters and numbers. Some sites even require your password to have letters, and numbers, and symbols.

That's hard! Too hard! Better that you have no password at all. And if some foreign government gains access to your emails because of that, it's not your fault. Because...passwords are hard!

[tomm2thumbs]

34. maybe if they were just colors, that would be easier

perhaps they could make the keys look like crayons and she could pick her favorite colors and then the email program would okay her to send a classified email, and perhaps it could even be done in a crayon-looking font so it would all be easy to figure out

and then she can wipe the screen to clear it, like with a cloth or something?

[Shemp Howard]

51. I'd suggest green, dollar-bill green...

...because that is evidently her favorite color.

(Am I allowed to say Bernie or Bust here?)

[840high]

56. lol +10

[cantbeserious]

67. Password Haystacks - Passwords Made Easy - No Excuse HRC

https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm

[Aerows]

137. Use a salt

individualize each to the website and presto, new easy to remember passwords that are different for every site you go to.

You never want to use the same passwords at more than one site.

An example: DU<salt with numbers, letters and specials>C0m

or something similar. WoW<salt>G@m3

Makes extremely difficult to bruteforce passwords, even for a high end GPU based workstation, but makes up for our human tendencies to forget things. Just pick a format and a salt.

[KingFlorez]

25. I can't wait until June 7th

Such a lovely day.

[KingFlorez]

39. Don't call names, it's against the rules

See you on June 7th, or no, I hope I don't see you.

[ThirdWayToTheHighway]

106. Don't worry, I expected a dodge

No wonder you're a Hillary supporter

[bkkyosemite]

87. And in another thread....Dubai and Cooper and lots of other scary crap..with Billy Boy

and the Foundation...wow just wow.

[JTFrog]

109. I'm certain which you are. n/t

[roguevalley]

32. dream on. If you thiink that the FBI will walk past this, you live in dream world. I will be glad

when she has to stand for this shit. I am sure the relatives of the operatives that were probably killed because of this will be too. But that's just me.

[KingFlorez]

41. There were people killed because of this?

I hadn't read about that. Link? LINK?

[grasswire]

139. one Ambassador

His intinerary was on her unprotected emails.

[Schema Thing]

143. name?

[Juicy_Bellows]

33. There is this part -

Q: So the computer would have just been open and be able to use without going through any security features?
A: Correct.

[KingFlorez]

37. I damn well know how to read, kiddo

My point was about authentication. I don't really know of any system that doesn't have some sort of authentication to access an account.

[Juicy_Bellows]

40. Read, I would admit you do. Comprehend I am not sure of.

Cheers regardless.


EDIT - Security feature = some sort of authentication there buckaroo.

[KingFlorez]

44. God bless you

[tomm2thumbs]

43. did you just call him a name?

I thought you said that was against the rules

[KingFlorez]

47. If you consider kiddo equal to calling someone an ignorant shill, then perhaps

[tomm2thumbs]

49. naughty naughty

[cherokeeprogressive]

82. Ignorant OR a shill, not an ignorant shill. Get it right.

Ignorance isn't something to be ashamed of, it simply means you don't know. And I agree.

[ThirdWayToTheHighway]

107. Hehe

Nor is a shill something to be ashamed of, if the money is right! That's one way you can look at it, anyhow.

[Buns_of_Fire]

145. Wait a minute -- you mean people get PAID for it?

Geez. And here I was doing it for the sheer joy and deep spiritual satisfaction...

[Gore1FL]

92. It's pretty easy to not turn on security, especially when the data center is in your basement. nt

[Fawke Em]

42. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Bernie Sanders.

Thank God.

[Shemp Howard]

46. The truth is never "crap".

I don't care if it's (hypothetically) Bernie not paying his water bills or Hillary parking in a handicapped spot, the truth is never "crap".

But is this story true in the first place? I checked, and it's being reported on numerous sites. So it sure seems to be true.

[arikara]

65. So sorry you feel that way...

but what the hey.

[arikara]

26. You need a password at least 8 characters long,

Containing at least one number, a special character, and an uppercase letter to enter an online contest at our local drugstore for chrissake. And state secrets don't even merit any password?

[elehhhhna]

83. M0nicabl0z

[DJ13]

105. LOL!

[Hoyt]

31. Yet, there is no evidence anyone got unauthorized access to her computer. Other gubmit agencies

can't say that.

[roguevalley]

35. that we have been told. I doubt that the FBI will dole out the news

[Fikari]

45. She was running a Windows email server with no encryption

And now, apparently, without a password. The Russians, Chinese, Israelis, and probably the Sultan of Brunei accessed it too. That goes without saying. Evidence isn't necessary anymore because even a 13 year old script kiddie could have accessed it and still hidden their tracks, as any IT/security professional will tell you.

Hillary is going down. That is the reality. Accept it.

[Fawke Em]

48. You don't know that.

I rather suspect they did.

In fact, there are stories floating out of Russia that they, indeed, have many of these emails.

Guccifer said he used to read her CIA briefings before doing some gardening.

The ONLY person who's said that the security logs showed no hacking is Bryan Pagliano and he doesn't seem to have a great data security track record.

A good hacker can sit on your server for MONTHS before anyone notices them.

[AzDar]

61. We KNOW there were MANY attempts... She just shut down the server, then restarted it. Good hackers

go in and out w/o detection... Former NSA head said he'd be AMAZED if it WASN'T hacked.


http://www.inquisitr.com/3087923/foreign-intelligence-services-must-be-snooping-around-with-all-of-hillary-clintons-emails-says-former-nsa-and-cia-director/



Defending this utter abdication of responsibility by Clinton is TRULY beyond the pale...

[catnhatnh]

72. Perhaps you missed that part

There was no password. EVERYONE was authorized access. No one had to hack. There was no such thing as unauthorized access....

[Fantastic Anarchist]

121. Actually, the IT guy indicated that her computer was "hacked ...again."

[Meteor Man]

130. At least one hacker got in

Hacker Who Exposed Hillary Clinton’s Email Server Pleads Guilty
Marcel Lazar, who used the alias “Guccifer,” entered his guilty plea before a judge in Alexandria, Virginia.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/clinton-email-hacker-guccifer-pleads-guilty_us_5745d1f8e4b03ede44137945

[mythology]

134. Perhaps you should actually read the article next time, not just the headline

In the article you linked to:

A Romanian computer hacker who revealed the existence of a private email server used by Hillary Clinton when she was secretary of state pleaded guilty to hacking-related offenses on Wednesday, the U.S. Justice Department said.

In recent media interviews, Lazar claimed he had easily hacked into Clinton's controversial private email server. But the Justice Department statement did not confirm this claim, and a law enforcement official said investigators did not find evidence to support the claim.

Guccifer used social engineering to gain access to email accounts. Doing that can let you look at email headers that would let him see that an email came from what turned out to be the Clinton email server, but Guccifer has offered no proof he hacked the server, and in the past he was eager to post information online, which he didn't do from the Clinton server.

http://www.techinsider.io/guccifer-hacked-hillary-clintons-email-2016-5

There is no evidence to suggest that he hacked the Clinton server, a source with the FBI says he didn't, Guccifer himself didn't post any evidence and he just took a plea deal for 2 counts of hacking. If the FBI had him on something as serious as hacking the Secretary of State's email server, they wouldn't have taken a plea deal with only 7 years. Either he'd be working for the NSA or he'd never get out of a cell.

[Meteor Man]

138. Yeah right

Or maybe go to another source:

The FBI is currently investigating whether or not Hillary Clinton’s email practices constituted a threat to national security. It’s not clear how much Lehel’s alleged hack revealed about the vulnerability of the former secretary of state’s communications.

https://www.rt.com/usa/344131-guccifer-clinton-hacker-guilty/

Choose your poison. There is no up side for Hillary.

[oioioi]

52. Misleading & out of context. Incorrect inference. He was talking about a hypothetical computer.

This part of the testimony concerns a suggestion Abedin made to his IT Dept to set up a separate computer off the State Network. He is simply saying that were a computer to be set up to the open internet without any security as Abedin suggested, there would be no security measures whatsoever, simply because the point of setting such a computer up was to bypass the State Dept Network security so hdr22 could check emails on the home server without going over the State Dept Network

There was never a system bullt for hdr22 that had no password. This is not suggested in the testimony.

I daresay there was a password on hdr22's gateway - but I wouldn't be surprised if were 'password'.

This thread is an illustration in hyperbole.

[KingFlorez]

64. Interesting

Thanks for clarifying that.

[pmorlan1]

73. Thank you

I just posted similar info at the beginning of this thread in response to another post. The testimony (in the story) also shows that even though this computer was offered she never had it installed and therefore never used it. It's a non-story.

[oioioi]

57. hdr22 was using an insecure server and connecting to it with the blackberry.

the blackberry isn't the problem - the insecure homebrew server with all of the State Dept email on it is.

[Fawke Em]

62. Sigh...

And this is a KID:

[NWCorona]

108. Obama's BlackBerry operates on its own network.

[LiberalArkie]

133. And it was custom built with custom encryption chips from the NSA for Obama only.

HRC requested one and was turned down by the NSA because of the expense of creating another one.

[dchill]

58. Typical Clinton cavalier attitude.

There are NO rules that apply to the Clintons. Rules are for the ruled.

[840high]

74. The Clintons have been getting away

with breaking rules for over +20 yrs. Enough.

[Vote2016]

60. Wow.

[paulthompson]

63. Not exactly

The way I understand the story, Clinton wasn't allowed to use her BlackBerry in her office to check her emails (since her BlackBerry was unapproved and unsecure). So Lukens offered to set up a laptop computer in her office so she could check her emails on that. But she didn't want to, and one excuse she gave was the hassle of logging in with a password. Then Lukens set things up so she wouldn't have to log in or use a password at all. She still didn't want to.

So she never actually went this password-free route because she never used the computer at all.

Why not? Her excuse was that she wasn't computer savvy. But that makes no sense. All she had to do was sit at the desk and type on a keyboard, everything else was set up for her to automatically check her emails. If she could do that on a BlackBerry, she could do it on a laptop.

The logical conclusion is that she didn't want to go through any State Department computer for any reason because then the department might permanently archive her emails, which would make them available to future Freedom of Information Act requests and investigations. So instead, as Lukens also mentions, she often walked the hallways just outside the high security zone near her office and checked her BlackBerry that way.

[polly7]

75. +1,000,000. nt.

[pmorlan1]

76. Yes

I can't believe so many people missed that this computer was NEVER set up so not having a password is meaningless.

If anything this thread shows that all of us need to pay closer attention to this story so that when non-stories come out we already know they are non-stories and don't hype them. The truth is bad enough without having to use non-stories to hype it.

[Juicy_Bellows]

77. Excellent summation.

[Barack_America]

84. Impressed yet again with your grasp on this story.

I'm dying to know what you think will happen next.

Were you at all surprised by the IG report?

[paulthompson]

100. Thanks!

I have a grasp because of the timeline I've been making:

http://thompsontimeline.com/

I hope anyone interested in the topic gives it a read.

Were you at all surprised by the IG report?

Not really. It answered some lingering questions, which is nice. I was disappointed though that it had such limited scope.

A lot of people don't understand the IG report was not an investigation of Clinton that could lead to criminal charges and such. It was an audit of past department procedures with an eye to making improvements in how the department conducts business going forward. The IG handed a "security referral" to the FBI a year ago, which kicked off the FBI investigation, and they're the ones who are doing the serious digging.

Thus, for instance, the IG report didn't go into the content of Clinton's classified emails at all, even though the department's IG had gone into that in some preliminary reports. So the big shoe to drop is what the FBI comes up with.

[Jesus Malverde]

88. +1

[bkkyosemite]

91. Holy shit + 1,000,000,000,000,000

[bobbobbins01]

128. Thanks, I just posted something similar but you beat me to it.

And did a much better job than I did.

But I think it is worth mentioning that they were going to hook the laptop up via a different internet source than the one that supplies the rest of the office. That adds to the speculation that she was trying to bypass the FOIA.

[Seeinghope]

70. She was so worried about "her personal information" being protected from the State Department

and othe Governmental agencies that she used her own server that didn't have proper security and she had no password. So I have all of this right? The State Department could have just tapped right into that server and probably got some interesting information. Ya think?

[Jarqui]

71. Beyond the glaring, inexcusable and arguably criminal lapse in national security

that is so embarrassing. It's 2016 and she obviously doesn't have a clue about passwords or security or Windows or email.

That's going to stick - the GOP will see to that.

How do you explain that credibly to the American public? I think there will be a multitude of GIFs out of that. This is getting ugly and she hasn't even had her coronation yet.

This email thing isn't going away - it's unraveling her campaign. They've got depositions for this case booked until the end of June and then maybe Hillary will be deposed. And then the depositions for the other case get under way.

[oioioi]

97. We already know that it doesn't have to be criminal, just a salacious witch-hunt - ask Ken Starr

[Jarqui]

116. Sadly, that's probably true.

But unfortunately, that's part of the game o politics of our time.

However, the FBI hasn't provided their conclusions yet so we still don't know if the standard bearer of the Democratic party will be an accused criminal or one some regard as merely a witch.

[pnwmom]

78. Whoever wrote this analysis is being deliberately deceptive, and it has nothing to do

with her home server in any event.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-27/first-shocking-deposition-clinton-email-case-reveals-she-did-not-use-password

Q: Would Mrs. Clinton have — was it required for Mrs. Clinton to ask for an e-mail address for one to be assigned to her?

A: Yes.

Q: Was it unusual — at the time did you think it was unusual that Mrs. Clinton didn’t want an e-mail address assigned to her?

A: No
.
Q: Why not?

A: I’m not aware of former Secretaries of State having e-mail addresses on our system.

The writer of this piece comments:

He was asked why he had proposed this solution, and he said it was “For ease of access” and, “as far as I knew, there was no requirement for her to be connected to our system” (even though he had earlier said that her having an email address assigned to her in the State Department’s system, the OpenNet system, was “required”).

The part in bold is deliberately deceptive.

He did not say it was required for her to be on the system. He said that her request was required in order for them to assign her an email address. In other words, they wouldn’t give her an email address unless she asked for it. That is very different from saying that she was required to have a state department email address.

The author quotes extensively from The Daily Caller, exposing his rightwing bias.

[bigtree]

126. +1000

...all I can manage without falling dead asleep with boredom.

[Jesus Malverde]

80. I'm no fan of hers but this is a bit of spin

The talk was setting up a computer in her office. Access from that machine to password protected systems would have the passwords, stored by an it admin, on the machine. Since the computer would be in her office it didn't need her to input passwords, since she would always be logged in.

Just like 99% don't input a password every time they check email, authentication comes from access to the machine which would be in her secure office.

However HRC rejected having a state department account and email and the machine was never installed. Instead she choose to have an admin with no security clearance manage her privatized off the books email system so she could circumvent FOIA and oversight from the Obama administration.

[oioioi]

81. The OP is an outright lie - complete bullshit

[Jesus Malverde]

85. No it's accurate, just not completely explored..

Lies by omission maybe. HRC is too smart for her own good.

Two scenarios, one she gets indicted, the other she becomes indebted to the FBI. An organization with a long history of blackmailing politicians, going back to the days of the infamous Hoover files.

[oioioi]

86. It's not accurate. There was no testimony she did not use a password. It was hypothetical.

[Jesus Malverde]

89. The title for sure is inaccurate, the snippet accurate but ommiting

Didn't bother to follow the link. HRC has done a lot of questionable things, this is not one of them.

it's a good troll or click bait by ZH and I'll give them a golf clap for effort.



That this is even being explored and debunked is all on HRC. I'm sure her supporters are disappointed in her judgement even if they don't admit it.

[oioioi]

96. Yes, this is a misleading headline. There was terrible judgment by a number of people.

In some senses hdr22 can be excused because the absolute incompetence and arrogance of her political underlings show that she had no idea what was going on. She is guilty wanting to protect her personal correspondence and of blissful ignorance and almost comical ignorance of technology and information security - but there's no evidence or even remote indication so far that she's a crook. There are going to be more damaging disclosures than this, presumably - there is really no need for them to bullshit for clicks - it sets people all atwitter and it really is completely misleading - there is no evidence whatsoever that hdr22 did not use a password. It has been determined that the mail was unencrypted for some time, however. So the password would have been transmitted over open internet, presumably.

it's a terrible story, there's no need to make it worse than it really is by obfuscating the truth of the matter - the truth is alarming enough.

[Jesus Malverde]

98. Agreed...nt

[bkkyosemite]

93. And her and Billy boy could chat with Dubai and have fun with the Foundation and????

[Jesus Malverde]

94. There was probably a lot of that

But it didn't have much to do with the proposal to set up the machine which ultimately was rejected.

[LiberalArkie]

129. I think that the main thing that got me was the 8 week password renewal period, which drove

all of us the the corporate world up the wall. New password on everything every 60-90 days and no repeating for 1-2 years and no writing it down anywhere. It had to be 8 -16 characters, upper and lower case with symbols and numbers.

I recycled my every month at the first of the month. JuN!01@2016 followed next month by JuL@01#2016 on down the line. Never forgot it and never got busted by security either. I changed my e-mail, RAS, computer encryption, DMS network all of them on the same day.

I can understand how a Luddite would really have a problem, but it is not an excuse to endanger everyone.

[tomm2thumbs]

90. sounds like more 'inconvenience' she was trying to get around - too lazy to type a password?

even a 4 letter password would have been better than none at all

I can think of a few after reading this article

[JonathanRackham]

95. Three scary words.

Nuclear launch codes.

[Jesus Malverde]

99. Four words to calm down

She didn't have them.

[azmom]

104. Sounds like the secretary didn't want to

leave any kind of records. I thought she was a proponent of transparency in government.

Why would we want anyone like her in the presidency?

[Sancho]

117. THE SCANDAL OVER CLINTON’S EMAILS STILL ISN’T A SCANDAL

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-not-scandal-464414

Then there is the issue of security. The one thing that seems clear from the report is that Clinton’s email system was more secure than the one at the State Department. Before delving into that, though, one of the biggest misconceptions about this email “scandal” has to be dispelled: Neither Clinton nor any other senior official cleared for dealing with classified information has only one email system. One is used for workaday business—memos, drafts, information to department employees, questions and answers between individuals—and that is the type used by Clinton, Powell, and Rice’s senior staff that has been reviewed by the inspector general. The second email system, for materials designated as classified, has nothing to do with this controversy. It uses a highly restricted, compartmented information facility, or what is known in intelligence circles as a SCIF. Most senior officials who deal with classified information have a SCIF in their offices and their homes guarded 24 hours a day by physical and technical security teams. In other words, this widely held belief that Clinton and Powell were emailing information classified as top-secret on personal accounts is hooey. (Yes, some emails not marked as classified have been retroactively deemed as such; this happens all the time.)

As for the department’s unclassified system, the inspector general's report demonstrates that it was horribly insecure, and that hackers obtained terabytes worth of documents out of it; on the other hand, Clinton’s email system was quite secure and, when evidence emerged that someone was trying to hack in, the security officer overseeing the server immediately shut it down, then notified the relevant officials at State. In other words, while boxcars of documents were digitally pulled out of the agency, there is no evidence a single email was snagged out of Clinton’s server. So it could be the Clinton arrangement didn’t follow the security procedures laid out in the federal regulations—the inspector general did not reach a conclusion as to whether it did or not—but, as often happens, private security contractors did a better job than the government.

[democrattotheend]

122. Just to clarify

Are we sure he wasn't saying that the system was set up in such a way that she did not need a password, because there were other security measures in place? I understand there is a way to set up a secure connection in a way that eliminates the need for passwords and is actually more secure.

[pdsimdars]

123. People, people, come on now, WHO could possibly be interested in the emails of the

United States Secretary of State? I mean, let's be realistic here!

[bigtree]

125. and they call Clinton folks authoritarians

[bobbobbins01]

127. As much as I hate to defend her on this issue...

Technically that computer never got set up, it was just an idea they were bouncing around to give her access to her email via her office since wireless devices are banned in there. But yes, it wouldn't have had a login password for the system. I would assume she would still need to enter her private email password to access that though.

[Meteor Man]

131. Hillary's email account was hacked

At least once:

Hacker Who Exposed Hillary Clinton’s Email Server Pleads Guilty
Marcel Lazar, who used the alias “Guccifer,” entered his guilty plea before a judge in Alexandria, Virginia.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/clinton-email-hacker-guccifer-pleads-guilty_us_5745d1f8e4b03ede44137945

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

132. Oh, well, she was a busy woman. See Libya for reference of her hard work.

[BuelahWitch]

141. No passwords for the Queen! n/t