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Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:12 PM May 2016

Clinton's email scandal

Here's an important bit from the State Department inspector general report. The first person mentioned is Justin Cooper. The second, the Senior Advisor, is Bryan Pagliano:

OIG identified two individuals who provided technical support to Secretary Clinton . The first, who was at one time an advisor to former President Clinton but was never a Department employee, registered the clintonemail.com domain name on January 13, 2009. The second, a Schedule C political appointee who worked in IRM as a Senior Advisor from May 2009 through February 2013...
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2842460/ESP-16-03-Final.pdf(US Department of State, 5/25/2016)]


http://www.dickmorris.com/bill-clintons-personal-aide-no-security-clearance-operated-hillarys-email-server/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/27/monica-crowley-the-linchpin-of-the-fbis-hillary-cl/

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=222852653&privcapId=40152409

This could be the most important thing to come out of the IG report, the revelation that Justin Cooper was so involved in managing Clinton's private email server.

And don't worry about the Dick Morris connection in one of those links. Yes, he's a right wing weirdo, but all he's doing is putting together the info from the IG report. And yes, it's definitely Cooper mentioned in the report. The report almost never names names, but it leaves enough info for people to figure out who is being referred to. In this case, the person being talked about is the one who registered Clinton's server, and previous news reports identified that as Cooper, and other details mentioned could only apply to Cooper.

Why is this so important? As Morris points out, it's highly likely that Cooper had no security clearance, since he never worked for the US government. He was basically Bill Clinton's personal assistant, which meant the Clintons trusted him, but he had no legal authority to look at classified information. And yet he helped manage Clinton's private server, which contained above top secret information!

Here's my theory on why he was involved. Bryan Pagliano was the main person to run the server, but he had a full time job working for the State Department in Washington, DC. (And the IG report reveals that he was managing the server during his business hours in that job, another big no-no.) Most of the time, Pagliano could deal with server problems remotely. But from time to time, one had to deal with the problem by physically interacting with the server. That's where Cooper comes in. My theory is that Cooper was usually where Bill Clinton was, which meant the Chappaqua house where the server was located or in nearby New York City (less than 100 miles away). So the IG report notes that when the server had to be physically shut down and then restarted due to a hacker attack, it was Cooper who did it, not Pagliano.

And that would have been fine if Cooper had the proper security clearance to have access to the info on that server, but there's no evidence so far that he did. This could put Hillary Clinton in great legal jeopardy, because it meant she willingly exposed the entire contents of her server to someone she knew shouldn't be seeing that information.

It's been reported by The Washington Times that the Clintons have been paying hundreds of thousands of dollars of Cooper's legal bills. That didn't make sense to me. Why would he have such high legal bills in the first place when he hasn't even been linked to any legal case? But now that makes total sense. Although the mainstream media has totally missed it, it's likely that Cooper (along with Pagliano) is a key part of the case the FBI is building against Clinton.

It would be great if people here could dig up more info on Cooper. For instance, when did his ties to The Clinton Foundation and Teneo begin? It seems he was deeply involved in some of the Clintons' corrupt quid pro quo arrangements, which makes his access to all that classified information that much more disturbing.
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Clinton's email scandal (Original Post) Dragonfli May 2016 OP
Thank you. Land of Enchantment May 2016 #1
Welcome back virgdem May 2016 #2
Temporary, I am told I am toast here and have no reason not to believe it, they know where I live Dragonfli May 2016 #4
I understand. virgdem May 2016 #13
Not only am I there now, but have been since late December Dragonfli May 2016 #18
I still lurk here virgdem May 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #17
Mean people do, and they have no joy in their lives, I fell pity for them /nt Dragonfli May 2016 #19
Yeah this was pointed out to me earlier and I agree this is a huge deal! NWCorona May 2016 #3
I'm under the impression Bryan Paglian was on state payroll Jesus Malverde May 2016 #5
yes grasswire May 2016 #10
Wow. Great job. Barack_America May 2016 #6
Also easy to spoof cell towers unc70 May 2016 #7
Could it be that the main reason for the private server was to keep hidden wilsonbooks May 2016 #8
yes grasswire May 2016 #9
Yes that, and to avoid any FOIA requests. azmom May 2016 #14
thank you dragonfl. grasswire May 2016 #11
... senz May 2016 #16
DU has never had a soft spot for conspiracy theorists. JTFrog May 2016 #20
I don't know where "underground" arikara May 2016 #37
That hide was total bullshit. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #21
It looks to me like he's being targeted. senz May 2016 #23
+ ∞ Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #27
Senz, he is now PPR. nt grasswire May 2016 #28
I just checked & saw that he's "flagged for review" senz May 2016 #29
they can hide, PPR people all they want but dana_b May 2016 #34
oh I meant FFR, not PPR grasswire May 2016 #35
It's okay. senz May 2016 #36
And here is another yes Samantha May 2016 #12
Glad to see you posting, Dragonfli! Hydra May 2016 #15
KICK Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #22
TY. I'm bookmarking this one. Lots of stuff here. silvershadow May 2016 #26
more..... 840high May 2016 #30
Thank you Dragonfli... nenagh May 2016 #31
K&R felix_numinous May 2016 #32
She's a flawed candidate. This is not going to go away. B Calm May 2016 #33

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
4. Temporary, I am told I am toast here and have no reason not to believe it, they know where I live
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:44 PM
May 2016

Not likely to post again for months if ever. I hope to see you again then.

Response to Dragonfli (Reply #4)

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
3. Yeah this was pointed out to me earlier and I agree this is a huge deal!
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

It was also noted in the link that the hack attempts were while she was overseas. Did I mention that her BlackBerry connects over public cell towers?

Great post!

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
5. I'm under the impression Bryan Paglian was on state payroll
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:46 PM
May 2016

But not actually assigned to any state business.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
6. Wow. Great job.
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

I've been reading this closely and that's the first I've heard of his name. I was wondering who the hell was in NY physically interacting with this thing though.

Man that's a lot to pay in legal bills for an assistant.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
7. Also easy to spoof cell towers
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:49 PM
May 2016

Remember how easy it is to do cell tower spoofing -- masquerading as a valid cell tower -- and intercepting communications. The US military and law enforcement do this routinely; so do other countries. Of course it is even easier if an unfriendly happens to itself control the local communications infrastructure.

Oftentimes this "spoofing" is totally legit, for example extending cellular service inside a large building that blocks signals from outside cell towers.

All of these are great for man-in-the-middle attacks on security.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
16. ...
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

It's a shame that the original author of this OP, paulthompson, keeps getting his work hidden. Here is the latest hide: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512072459

I wish I knew what the grounds for the repeated alerts are.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
20. DU has never had a soft spot for conspiracy theorists.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:45 AM
May 2016

Not only a conspiracy theorist, but the dude is a 9/11 truther.

I know that you don't care about that, but you did ask.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
37. I don't know where "underground"
Sat May 28, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

comes into it here. Considering how everything has to be based on establishment rules and viewpoints.

Don't question anything, just take what you are given... from approved sources only.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
21. That hide was total bullshit.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:48 AM
May 2016

Discuss and debate - according to some, the list of approved sources you can cite shrinks by the minute. Not to mention Paul brought some damn fine points and has done some extensive research. We should all be grateful to have someone willing to share their hard work with us.

If you don't agree with his work, well that is one thing but to try and shun it outright is childish and petty.


 

senz

(11,945 posts)
23. It looks to me like he's being targeted.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:59 AM
May 2016

He is always thorough and well-organized, backs up his points with links or logical reasoning, is always polite, never gets personal with anyone. It's outrageous. I get the impression they are in such a lather over Hill's legal problems that they cannot tolerate anyone looking too closely and carefully at the Clintons.

Meanwhile, people get away with outright lies and verbal abuse.

It's incredibly unjust.

Response to senz (Reply #16)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
29. I just checked & saw that he's "flagged for review"
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:36 AM
May 2016

So people are automatically flagged based on two quick hides, right? And most of them come back within a few days (although bmus hasn't come back.)

The thing is, paulthompson never fights with anyone, never insults anyone, never uses profanity or anything. He's a model poster. All he does is research.

What kind of people are afraid of research? People with something to hide?

I sure hope the government investigators aren't encountering this much censorship.

Paul, if you're reading this: thank you for all your painstaking work and I hope you'll be back soon.

grasswire, do you know if lobbying on a DUer's behalf makes a difference?

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
34. they can hide, PPR people all they want but
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:35 PM
May 2016

it won't stop the truth from coming out in other areas apart from DU. They can't hide/PPR MSNBC, CBS, ABC, WaPo, NYT, twitter, FB, etc.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
35. oh I meant FFR, not PPR
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:00 PM
May 2016

Sorry for the error.

I heard that BMUS has been released from limbo, but no one has seen her here.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
36. It's okay.
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

As for bmus, she, like some others, was put back on "Active" but has literally disappeared. I've seen this happen to others and it's always disturbing, but for me it's especially so with bmus because she was one of the main people to make me feel welcome here. I even asked about it here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/125611351 but no one really knows.

One of the missing people eventually came back, but she had changed. Someone on the other side also came back, but very subdued. I have hunches about what's going on.

Hope to see paul back soon though, unchanged.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
15. Glad to see you posting, Dragonfli!
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:52 AM
May 2016

And this is great info. Whether Clinton is ever charged is still an open question, but what she did had nothing to do with the requirements of her position and the law.

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