What Would Bernie Do If Hillary Is Indicted And Establishment Picks Biden?

[Gregorian]

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[ronnykmarshall]

1. Oh jesus!

[Zen Democrat]

2. What would everyone do? It would be the end of the Democratic Party.

[StevieM]

4. First of all, Hillary won't be indicted so it is a moot point.

Second, let's enter a hypothetical world in which for some reason Hillary Clinton cannot accept the Democratic nomination. Let's say she suddenly found herself in poor health. In that case it would be up to the convention to pick the nominee.

They would be under no obligation to pick Sanders, and they almost certainly would not. The losing candidate is not entitled to the nomination if some reason the winning candidate can unexpectedly not run.

An open convention would probably turn to either Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden.

Not that any of this matters because Hillary Clinton has done nothing wrong. She will win the nomination, be formally nominated at the convention and then go on to win the general election in November. She will be our next president.

[Samantha]

6. In the aftermath of something like that, there would be a huge meltdown of the DNC

I do believe Hillary Clinton will be indicted. The only thing that could stop it now is the DOJ and/or President Obama intervening. I do not believe that will happen. It is true that many people think this has the potential to cause catastrophic consequences. I do believe that potential is there, but my hope is that Hillary Clinton's lawyer negotiates a deal that Hillary can live with. That would include surrendering her security clearance and an agreement to never seek public office again, a huge fine, and a probation period but no jail time. This is what I hope for. She makes a public statement that she is dropping out for health reasons.


Sam

[Samantha]

15. I hope you are right

What I feel we greatly need at this time is stability, not more fighting, not more playing musical chairs. Make the music stop and start cooperating to stop Trump by winning the GE. We can get back to the fighting once the election is settled. We would be doing that anyway, right?

Sam

[StevieM]

17. This is ridiculous. First of all, the nominee of the party will be Hillary Clinton since

she has (or is about to) defeated Senator Sanders fair and square. He has no claim to the nomination over her after getting millions fewer votes.

Second, Hillary is not on the brink of indictment. She has not broken any laws, no matter what her opponents are claiming.

Third, if Hillary for some reason could suddenly not accept the nomination--which is no more likely in her case than it is with Sanders or Trump--that would not entitle Bernie to the nomination. It would be up to the convention to choose.

It would not destroy the party if they refused to nominate someone who lost the primary.

If for some strange reason the convention was open--which it won't be--they would probably select either Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren.

Not that any of this matters. Hillary is on her way to winning the nomination. She will be declared the winner and presumptive nominee on June 7. She will be nominated at the convention. She will face Donald Trump in the Fall. She will win the GE in November. And she will be our next president in January 2017.

[Baobab]

18. Bernie is not "too ot to handle" The Democratic Party is TOO COLD

to be trusted.

The country needs a change, deal with it.

[StevieM]

11. Wow, Sam. That's quite a scenario you've imagined.

I can't imagine that you've gotten one thing right.

Hillary won't be indicted because she has done nothing indictable.

The DOJ doesn't "intervene" or "not intervene"--it is the agency responsible for deciding whether or not to indict someone. It is their decision to make.

Hillary is not dropping out.

She is not negotiating a plea bargain.

She will not be announcing health problems (unless she actually has them).

Hillary Clinton will win the nomination, be formally nominated at the convention, face Donald Trump in the Fall, win the GE in November and become our next president in January 2017.

[Samantha]

14. You obviously have not been doing your homework, StevieM

I am aware of the DOJ's role in this matter, thank you very much.

I leave you now so you can get back to some reading you are behind on.

Sam

[Juicy_Bellows]

3. He is right, hypothetically that would be a horrible scenario and decision. NT.

[oldandhappy]

5. suspect no one would vote

[andym]

7. This hypothetical depends on timing

Before the convention, Bernie would fight to win the support of enough superdelegates to give him the nomination, which he will probably do anyway.

After the nomination, if Bernie doesn't win it, he promised to support the nominee. If the nominee changes I don't see him going back on that promise-- who knows the party might just choose him as the replacement and not Biden.

[NanceGreggs]

8. The same thing Bernie did ...

... when he realized more people voted for HRC than voted for him - yell "fraud", "rigged", the "Establishment" fears me, etc.

And to think I once thought that Sarah Palin was THE most annoying loser who wouldn't go away. Bernie puts her to shame.

Maybe Bernie is hoping for a FOX-News spot, too. He and Jane can co-host a show about how everyone done 'em wrong, with helpful hints on how you can easily access your tax returns.

[dana_b]

9. yep! It would be an insult to him and to those of us

who have worked for and supported Bernie.

[Bayard]

13. Biden?

I think Biden has earned a well-deserved retirement. He's already said he's not interested in running for Prez.

[Samantha]

16. I think he just wants to retire and really who can blame him

I like Joe Biden, but considering everything he has been through, leave him alone instead of throwing him into the "lying" den.

Sam