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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:21 AM May 2016

If Bernie was the nominee, Trump and Republicans would DANCE FOR JOY IN THE STREETS.

They would shoot off fireworks, have block parties all night, and dance all night in sheer delight if Bernie was the nominee.

Why? Because they would immediately start producing the ENDLESS ATTACK ADS with hammer and sickle flags saying "Communist Communist Communist."

We would hear "Communist Bernie" constantly from now until election day. We would also see so many other ads:

"Bernie who wants to raise your taxes through the roof."

"Bernie who wants to expand government by seventeen trillion dollars."

"Bernie the porn writer."

"Bernie the do-nothing on-unemployment bum."

"Bernie who says one thing but votes another way if it benefits Vermont."

"Bernie the Fidel Castro lover."

"Bernie the Sandinista lover."

"Bernie whose wife drove a college into the ground."

And SO much more that would almost instantly TANK him in the polls. It would be a political BLOODBATH.

Sorry Bernie fans, but the white cloak which you drape over Bernie would be ripped off in an instant and sunk in an ocean of the most damaging dirt and sludge you could possibly imagine. So far Bernie has been deliberately given a complete pass. Not a single negative ad. Why? Because the R's WANT him to win. They WANT to run against him. They are YEARNING to run against him so they can then start yelling "COMMUNIST COMMUNIST COMMUNIST" night and day and day and night. And it would be DEVASTATING.

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If Bernie was the nominee, Trump and Republicans would DANCE FOR JOY IN THE STREETS. (Original Post) RBInMaine May 2016 OP
Because they love and respect Hillary and see no issues that can be used to defeat her by landslide? Vote2016 May 2016 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #2
"Leaks state secrets?" Complete and utter nonsense. My goodness, what planet are you on? RBInMaine May 2016 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #5
"My Goodness..." I Would ASk The Same of You... What Planet Are You On That You Completely Overlook CorporatistNation May 2016 #7
Listen to yourself... Bob-o the Clown May 2016 #30
"Leaking state secrets"? Seriously? That is so ridiculous you must on another planet. RBInMaine May 2016 #23
Yes, leaked state secrets. Dont let the bullies shut you up jack_krass May 2016 #38
Also, Jane has an FBI issue it seems. Some GOP lawman says Bernie helped. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #3
The fact he was a conscientious objector Demsrule86 May 2016 #6
FALSE Statement! Bernie Voted To SUPPORT The TROOPS Once They Were Comiited To War By Others Such.. CorporatistNation May 2016 #13
which is why #chickentrump won't debate Sanders J_J_ May 2016 #8
Why am I even bothering to type this? pangaia May 2016 #9
I don't think Hill talking points are the same as Trump's foo_bar May 2016 #10
There is plenty of evidence that you are correct on these and many other scandals... Sancho May 2016 #11
No Biden! No Warren! If A Substitution Needs To Be Made, The ONLY LEGIT Candidate IS Senator Sanders CorporatistNation May 2016 #15
It's an imaginary discussion, because Bernie won't be the candidate... Sancho May 2016 #21
What kind of a Democrat compiles, harbors, and publishes such a list? pipoman May 2016 #22
It's a list of what the GOP would start with in a GE... Sancho May 2016 #25
Surely you aren't pretending that if there is a list for bernie pipoman May 2016 #34
Republicans don't dance. eom saltpoint May 2016 #12
a barrage of ads with the video of bernie proclaiming "I am a socialist and everyone knows that." DrDan May 2016 #14
Socialist Meme is A RED HERRING! Very Few Give A Sh**! Only HARD CORE RIGHT Wingers, and... CorporatistNation May 2016 #16
ignore that risk at your peril - it is enough to get the RWers riled up and enthused about voting DrDan May 2016 #20
Every poll out there says you are full of it. Warren Stupidity May 2016 #17
The 1950s called shawn703 May 2016 #18
One of the dumbest screeds I have ever read on DU. pipoman May 2016 #19
Doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is. Pacifist Patriot May 2016 #24
There's lots of dirt and sludge out there but babylonsister May 2016 #26
You blew your poop slinging wad on this one AgingAmerican May 2016 #27
Bwahahahaha... 99Forever May 2016 #28
Trump would much rather run against Hillary, who he can easily disqualify ... Scuba May 2016 #29
Trumps Handelers told him not to debate Bernie because if he helped Bernie pull off an upset of Dustlawyer May 2016 #35
Don't you have LePage to take care of first? Bob-o the Clown May 2016 #31
Are your ten hate Bernie points as bad as the ten hate Hillary points the GOP would use? Alex4Martinez May 2016 #32
Great thing about Clinton is so many people hate her so much they don't need to say anything CBGLuthier May 2016 #33
Only because they are disconnected from reality. Betty Karlson May 2016 #36
Oh, Come on... RazBerryBeret May 2016 #37
Wishful thinking: Bernie polls better against Trump than Hillary jack_krass May 2016 #39
Well, the RWNJs can rest easy. You have done their work for them! Bravo !! Hiraeth May 2016 #40
 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
1. Because they love and respect Hillary and see no issues that can be used to defeat her by landslide?
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:24 AM
May 2016

Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Response to RBInMaine (Reply #4)

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
7. "My Goodness..." I Would ASk The Same of You... What Planet Are You On That You Completely Overlook
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

hard evidence of your heroine, doing all that is well documented... and the list is indeed lengthy... and then to be diplomatic... NOT exactly being TRUTHFUL about it! If you need video documentation of the empirical veracity of this statement, I will be more than happy to provide it... UNBELIEVABLE is the level of COGNITIVE DISSONANCE ... here!

 

Bob-o the Clown

(35 posts)
30. Listen to yourself...
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

and listen to me. Clinton handled top secret materials into her unclassified and unsecured (for 3 months) home-brewed server for 3 months for her emails. Many of the emails are TS/SCI, 22 are so classified, it can't be released for public information. They were all found on her unsecured, unclassified and hackable server.

That, and her relationship with Sid Blumenthal is what is going to take Clinton down.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
38. Yes, leaked state secrets. Dont let the bullies shut you up
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:11 AM
May 2016

At the very least, she put state secrets at great risk, but I'm OK with "leaked'. Especially seeing the Hillary supporters are perfectly OK labeling every Bernie supporter a racist.

Not good enough Hillary, Lol

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
3. Also, Jane has an FBI issue it seems. Some GOP lawman says Bernie helped.
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:27 AM
May 2016

I don't know.. I don't trust GOP. Vermont news reported it.

Demsrule86

(68,613 posts)
6. The fact he was a conscientious objector
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:36 AM
May 2016

but voted to send men and women to war would clobber him too...look what they did to Kerry?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
13. FALSE Statement! Bernie Voted To SUPPORT The TROOPS Once They Were Comiited To War By Others Such..
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:38 AM
May 2016

as Hillary! BIG DIFFERENCE! Get Yer FACTS straight...

foo_bar

(4,193 posts)
10. I don't think Hill talking points are the same as Trump's
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

I mean close enough, but it's hard to see Trump making e.g., "porn writer" a key differentiator. Maybe the red baiting since that's common to both parties, but Trump isn't a cookie cutter republican with the blah-blah tax 'n spend pitch, again that's more like a Clintonian third way tack than this sort of reality show fascism we're seeing. If anything Bernie seems to neutralize Trump's "saying what idiots secretly think" motif, while Hillary isn't allowed to say what she thinks because her approval ratings plummet whenever Real Hillary talks about her experiences with poverty or sniper fire, so she has to be carefully stage-managed to compartmentalize the candidate and the image of "???" she's attempting to project.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
11. There is plenty of evidence that you are correct on these and many other scandals...
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

Bernie had a free ride so far. Admittedly the sources are all over the map, but Trump and friends would have a field day with him. Depending on your interest, he could be attacked many ways. This is just a small number of mostly local and limited circulation publications. On a national media stage, with big RW dollars pushing along, Bernie would be a sitting duck on the topics you raise and others.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/26/exclusive-bernie-sanders-wife-may-have-defrauded-state-agency-bank/


http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-and-wife-steered-campaign-nonprofit-money-to-family-and-friends/
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/24583-bernie-sanders-doubles-down-on-f-35-support-days-after-runway-explosion
http://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2015/02/hypocrisy-alert-bernie-sanders-wanting.html
http://muckraker-gg.blogspot.com/2013/11/how-lockheed-and-sandia-came-to-vermont.html
http://socialistworker.org/2015/06/01/what-i-learned-about-bernie-sanders
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jaredmeyer/2015/08/25/sanders-rubio-support-costly-sugar-subsidies/
http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/look ... rs-72.html
http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/look ... nders.html
http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/look ... rs-90.html
http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/look ... right.html
http://www.quora.com/What-dirt-is-there-on-Bernie-Sanders
https://bhermannview.wordpress.com/2015/06/12/beware-of-colonel-sanders/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/15/1409803/-Introducing-Bernie-Sanders-the-Hypocrite
https://jhaines6a.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/list-israeli-dual-citizens-in-the-us-114th-congress-and-bernie-sanders-is-on-it-j/
https://www.popularresistance.org/lets-not-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders/
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-compares-his-sex-article-50-shades-grey
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/sanders-leftwing-economic

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
15. No Biden! No Warren! If A Substitution Needs To Be Made, The ONLY LEGIT Candidate IS Senator Sanders
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:42 AM
May 2016

I've met and spoken with Biden for quite a while... Nice salesman. NOT going to change a thing as he is an apparatchik of The Establishment just like Hillary... Perhaps not as bad as HRC in that regard, but he will toe the line for THE POWERS THAT BE!

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
21. It's an imaginary discussion, because Bernie won't be the candidate...
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:51 AM
May 2016

There are plenty of other good Democratic candidates who would be better than Bernie, but point of the OP is clear. Bernie would be an easy target for a general election. He has plenty of issues that the repubs could exploit.

So far, it has not been worth their time and money.

GOP debates rarely mentioned Bernie. The RW PACs run ads against Hillary, but no Bernie. They could if they wanted.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
25. It's a list of what the GOP would start with in a GE...
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

Actually, that's just the tip of the iceberg as an example. In the real world of today's politics, that's the way it is.

If Bernie supporters don't know about his history that could be used against him, then they are naive.

The OP listed some possible issues. I merely provided a few links to those topics and similar ones so than DUers could see that the OP was not hypothetical - but the potential attacks were really out there.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
34. Surely you aren't pretending that if there is a list for bernie
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

There isn't a 3 volume set for Hillary?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
16. Socialist Meme is A RED HERRING! Very Few Give A Sh**! Only HARD CORE RIGHT Wingers, and...
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

they will never vote for ANY Dem anyway! A TOTAL BS argument!

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
19. One of the dumbest screeds I have ever read on DU.
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:49 AM
May 2016

What about hiding your official Secretary of State email server in your basement? What about the demonstrable and incessant lying? What about Hils love affair with investment banking corruption?

No, trump will target whomever is the Democratic candidate and Sanders has a fuckload less baggage than Hillary.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
24. Doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is.
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:54 AM
May 2016

Bernie, Hillary, or Jesus, the Republicans would blast the Dem nominee with attack ads, innuendo, misinformation, and flat out lies period. Tactics might differ, but the strategy would be the same so not really a compelling reason to pull support from a candidate. Quite the contrary.

babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
26. There's lots of dirt and sludge out there but
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:59 AM
May 2016

you most assuredly are applying it to the wrong candidate. Why are you so nervous? What's the point of this OP? Who are you trying to convince?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
28. Bwahahahaha...
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

... another trip up the Denial River.

Tailgunner Joe McCarthy called, wants his lameass, sorry, punkish Red Scare back.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
29. Trump would much rather run against Hillary, who he can easily disqualify ...
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:11 AM
May 2016

... just by accurately citing her record.

He's got nothing on Bernie and is afraid to run against him, afraid to debate him. Trump can only lose votes by facing Bernie.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
35. Trumps Handelers told him not to debate Bernie because if he helped Bernie pull off an upset of
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

Clinton at the convention Trump would lose. Bernie has been getting stronger the more people hear his message while Hillary's numbers drop the longer she runs. Independents really love Bernie whereas Hillary, not so much.

Trump is going to be Trump no matter who he runs against. He will badly lose debates to either Hillary or Bernie, but Hillary has some real dirt mixed with fake dirt for Trump to make mud out of to hurl at her. Bernie is clean, nothing Trump would make up would stick.

Alex4Martinez

(2,198 posts)
32. Are your ten hate Bernie points as bad as the ten hate Hillary points the GOP would use?
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:30 AM
May 2016

Are you serious?

"Hillary who can not be trusted"

"Hillary who prisons you predators"

"Hillary too good to use government email"

"Hillary has hedge funders in the family"

death penalty, outsourcing, anti-working wage, there's no bottom to the pit of negatives.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
33. Great thing about Clinton is so many people hate her so much they don't need to say anything
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:31 AM
May 2016

more about her. She will lose to Trump.

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
37. Oh, Come on...
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:05 AM
May 2016

do you really want me to make a list of the things we will be hit with if Hillary is the nominee? you know it will be quite a bit longer.....

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