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YouDig

(2,280 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:26 PM May 2016

What Jane did to Burlington College is what Bernie would do to America.

It's a perfect example of #bernienomics. Come up with some grandiose plan that anyone who can add and subtract knows won't work. Promise to pay for it with fictitious income streams.

And it ends in bankruptcy.

Good thing the damage so far has been limited to a small college in Vermont. The other good example of #bernienomics in action is when Vermont tried single payer, but they at least had the good sense to give the whole thing up before it even started.

Lucky for us, Bernie's not getting anywhere near the presidency.

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What Jane did to Burlington College is what Bernie would do to America. (Original Post) YouDig May 2016 OP
What Bill Clinton did to Monica Lewinski is what Hillary would do to America. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #1
not sure i can visualize what you are saying 6chars May 2016 #8
I'll explain the analogy using small words that are easier to understand. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #11
brilliant Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #17
Got it. 6chars May 2016 #18
+10,000 Well played. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #50
Written like a champ!!! libdem4life May 2016 #54
Clenis Envy. nt msanthrope May 2016 #63
Watch those big words, lol Duckhunter935 May 2016 #64
Bill gave Monica a good five-cent cigar. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #20
Bill conned her into smoking his 5 cent cigar notadmblnd May 2016 #31
These just almost write themselves. ..LOL libdem4life May 2016 #59
WAIT! People disassociate HRC from WJC's terms, yet somehow Jane S. will have more influence? TheBlackAdder May 2016 #66
A post I would expect to see on Free Republic or Luciferanne ... not on DU. Then again, SFnomad May 2016 #23
If you were talking about the OP, I would agree. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #51
Nope, I was talking about the post I replied to ... but you already knew that n/t SFnomad May 2016 #55
Oh yes, you're one of those attack and then be surprised when someone attacks back people. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #61
Attack back? That's what you call your swing and a miss? n/t SFnomad May 2016 #67
Wrong again, I never swung. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #70
CURSE you, V.O., you BEAT ME TO IT. Well played. Miles Archer May 2016 #34
And what Hillary did to Iraq and Libya ... mainer May 2016 #2
Silly thread, but I must admire your work ethic! QC May 2016 #3
Strange, isn't it, how many new members signed up The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #9
And all say the very same things at the very same time, too. QC May 2016 #10
Must be today's Brocking point. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #14
We never have to wonder what Mr. Little Bit Nutty & a Little Bit Slutty QC May 2016 #27
I love that that is the only line puffy socks May 2016 #28
Here's another one. Broward May 2016 #38
parents really want em out of their house notadmblnd May 2016 #33
God knows these kids have a hard row to hoe. QC May 2016 #53
I know what you mean. notadmblnd May 2016 #69
Jane does their taxes puffy socks May 2016 #4
I didn't realize Jane was a candidate. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #7
He said he'd release his taxes puffy socks May 2016 #25
A couple of comments/distinctions : libdem4life May 2016 #65
Desperation much? coco77 May 2016 #43
No desperation puffy socks May 2016 #56
No good comes from a liar and cheater.. coco77 May 2016 #58
Yeah puffy socks May 2016 #60
what's weird about these pathetic smears is how worried the posters are about Sanders zazen May 2016 #5
Fair is fair. If Bernie is still a candidate seriously running, he gets treated like one. CrowCityDem May 2016 #26
According to Repubicans AgingAmerican May 2016 #6
so jonmac511 May 2016 #12
His wife is a top political advisor of his. YouDig May 2016 #13
sorry but jonmac511 May 2016 #16
Another of many bullshit posts! dmosh42 May 2016 #15
You know there are these things called Boards of Trustees, right? nc4bo May 2016 #19
No, no, you don't understand! Jane did it all by herself! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #21
If you have nothinig, make it up Hydra May 2016 #22
Jane's plan from your link...abject failure.... Henhouse May 2016 #41
She did it alllllllll by herself. What a dictator! nt nc4bo May 2016 #47
What is so grandoise about Bernie's plans? AZ Progressive May 2016 #24
You do understand, don't you, that we have free college and health care that, we'd have to Blue Meany May 2016 #39
There own damn finances says the same, believing 1 tax return. Or running the campaign finances. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #29
I've been reading a bunch of stupid anti-Clinton threads gollygee May 2016 #30
"There's desperation in the air. It stains all your clothes and no detergent gets it out" hobbit709 May 2016 #32
Garbage flamebait. UnRec n/t emulatorloo May 2016 #35
How very Republican of you to go after a candidates wife jillan May 2016 #36
Lucky indeed. He has shown in these last couple of months that his temperment is also something anotherproletariat May 2016 #37
LOL! nc4bo May 2016 #48
One word: bullshit. Vinca May 2016 #40
Not recommended! coco77 May 2016 #42
More true than not..sanders always been pie in the sky beachbumbob May 2016 #44
Because we need to give 1/2 of our tax money to the military industrial complex! AZ Progressive May 2016 #57
Oh look. This election season's "whitey tape." AtomicKitten May 2016 #45
I'm going to miss your unintentionally funny posts GreatGazoo May 2016 #46
Are you actually a Bernie fan, doing some sort of double-reverse psychology thing? reformist2 May 2016 #49
Reliably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme 25 cantbeserious May 2016 #52
What Bill Clinton did to Monica AgingAmerican May 2016 #62
Ah, bullshit cliffordu May 2016 #68
Sounds like another Bernie we've all known. barrow-wight May 2016 #71
They can't even figure out how to print their taxes realmirage May 2016 #72
Another display proving that Hillary supporters do nothing but INSULT. What a shame, B Calm May 2016 #73

6chars

(3,967 posts)
8. not sure i can visualize what you are saying
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

Hillary receiving fellatio from America? Nope, not seeing it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
11. I'll explain the analogy using small words that are easier to understand.
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

The spouse of a candidate did a bad thing, and we are expected to attribute (sorry, that's a big word) some sort of analogous (sorry, that's another one) behavior to the candidate. In an attempt to save Burlington College Jane Sanders (with the help of the college's board of directors and lawyers) took out a loan that ultimately the college couldn't repay. Obviously this must mean Bernie is fiscally irresponsible and will make America go broke. Bill Clinton had an illicit relationship with a naive young intern. Obviously this must mean Hillary is going to screw America. Both conclusions are stupid. See how that works?

6chars

(3,967 posts)
18. Got it.
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:55 PM
May 2016

On the other hand, while Hillary is unlikely to have a relationship with a young intern, it is not unreasonable to say she shares a professional and intellectual partnership with her spouse, and people have said the same about Bernie and his spouse. Such partnerships have pros and cons, and inferences based on them are only speculative, but that never stops anyone.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
54. Written like a champ!!!
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:42 PM
May 2016

Something about certain posters...no screen names...but they/we know who they are...that stinks to high heaven. I respect a well-thought out opinion regardless of the preferred candidate. But these one-liner declaratives seem to emote from the part of the brain not bothered with passing through the frontal cortex.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
66. WAIT! People disassociate HRC from WJC's terms, yet somehow Jane S. will have more influence?
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

.


Is that what this stupid OP is implying...

That somehow, Jane Sanders will have more influence on the government than Hillary Clinton did years back?



When people bring up Hillary's influence, during the Bill Clinton terms, we're told she wasn't a real factor.

Why the freakin' change?


.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
23. A post I would expect to see on Free Republic or Luciferanne ... not on DU. Then again,
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:23 PM
May 2016

BS cheerleaders sound a lot like right wingnuts far too frequently.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
34. CURSE you, V.O., you BEAT ME TO IT. Well played.
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

I saw the thread title and my first thought was "Not THIS bullshit again." My second thought was what you posted.

Then my third thought was the OP and a replay of my first thought.



QC

(26,371 posts)
3. Silly thread, but I must admire your work ethic!
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

Member since: Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:35 PM
Number of posts: 1,390
Number of posts, last 90 days: 1390
Number of hidden posts: 6

QC

(26,371 posts)
27. We never have to wonder what Mr. Little Bit Nutty & a Little Bit Slutty
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

has to say, do we?

Goebbels would be envious of the message discipline we're seeing here.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
69. I know what you mean.
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

the minute my house is paid for, I'm packing up and moving out on the kids.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
4. Jane does their taxes
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016


No wonder they don't want to release them
She's incompetent.


Is she in charge of the campaign's financing?
That would explain the flood of FEC notices of illegal contributions.
 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
25. He said he'd release his taxes
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

She does them. They're having them looked over...for months now.


And he hires family members to run his campaign including the financing.
If she has been hired after showing her incompetence at Burlington she shouldn't of been hired in the first place will show yet more poor judgment on Bernard's part.

She has spoken for Bernie on multiple occasions and she is as fair a target as Bill Clinton is...which obviously gets your goat.


 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
65. A couple of comments/distinctions :
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

1) Jane Sanders. PhD, tries to start help a college for local young people. Financing goes awry. Pretty common for 80 percent of new ventures. Bernie decides to run for office and goes to the most qualified person to manage his campaign...Jane. Campaign Managers get paid. Donors know that.

2) Bill Clinton. Ex-lawyer, addicted to philandering, no conscience about it.
.even in the Oval Office. ..somebody let her in a number of times...routine...and it wasn't to give him a manicure. Lied out his ears and got impeached creating a Global Media Event.The CF is born. Suddenly they are rich. The entire family and some Good Friends are paid handsomely. A couple of her speeches equal the net worth of the other candidate

No, we don't want to go there with spouses, and this is why . On a scale of 1-10, Jane is maybe a 2. The other is an 11

Post Fail

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
43. Desperation much?
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:18 PM
May 2016

you need to be worrying about what Bill will be doing,he is going to be a problem whether she wins or not on the campaign trail or the Whitehouse.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
60. Yeah
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:57 PM
May 2016

The whining and lying and drama will continue from the Bernie camp because.....
Hillary won!
yaHooooo! I'm thrilled about it!

zazen

(2,978 posts)
5. what's weird about these pathetic smears is how worried the posters are about Sanders
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

If Clinton clearly was the inevitable nominee, why bother?

No need to respond to me--you're now on my growing Ignore List.

Have a nice day.



 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
6. According to Repubicans
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

Of course Republicans also claim Hillary had Vincent Foster murdered.

Her supporters are getting very desperate for 'material' to attack with...

jonmac511

(46 posts)
12. so
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

Bernie's such a terrible candidate that instead of criticizing him on all the things that make him a terrible candidate, you'd rather drag his wife into this? I think maybe you should ask yourself what makes him so terrible because you obviously have no solid reasoning behind that opinion. I'm sure that dragging a candidates spouse into the debate would hurt Secretary Clinton much more than Senator Sanders. Of course, anytime someone brings up Bill, they get blasted.

If this is the reason you tell people to not vote for Bernie,I feel confident that you'll have about the same success rate as trying to sell Hillary on her own accomplishments, none. Instead of worrying about how Jane will somehow figure into how Bernie does while president, look around and see the damage Bill has already helped create. Weak sauce here.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
13. His wife is a top political advisor of his.
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:40 PM
May 2016

Bill Clinton presided over the best economic performance in the last 50 years.

jonmac511

(46 posts)
16. sorry but
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:51 PM
May 2016

Really, should I list Secretary Clinton's political advisor and try to figure out how many ways they would destroy the country if they had their way? Clinton's great economy was completely hollow and based mostly on fraud and the unsustainable and extremely faulty tech bubble. His policies have had direct and o going effects on the current situation this country finds itself in. The whole Bill was a great president, just look at the economy while he served, argument is easily debunked by spending a day in the real world in 2016.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
21. No, no, you don't understand! Jane did it all by herself!
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:01 PM
May 2016

She locked all the trustees and lawyers and accountants in the basement and took out the loan all by herself for the express purpose of destroying Burlington College! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Or so the brockpuppets would have us believe.


Henhouse

(646 posts)
41. Jane's plan from your link...abject failure....
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

The first plan was promoted by Jane Sanders, who served as president from 2004 to 2011 and who, in her last years, championed the move from the college's diminutive headquarters in the Colodny building at the top of North Street to the capacious diocese property....

"The projections show enrollment growing approximately 20 percent per year ..." wrote the consultant, the PFM Group of Boston, "a five-year growth rate of over 100 percent," adding that revenue would grow 187 percent and expenses 148 percent. "One key assumption in the revenue growth is that it assumes one to two million dollars per year in capital campaign gifts between FY11 and FY14."

The consultant recommended that the agency approve the college's proposed financing, partly because of the "transformational nature of the project" and "the collateral value of the property being purchased." The report, however, noted these risks:

• "Debt coverage requires meeting growth projections, especially enrollment growth;

• "Debt coverage requires successful capital campaign without an established institutional history of philanthropy."

Sanders resigned in September 2011 and eventually was succeeded by Christine Plunkett, who had served as chief financial officer. In the fall of 2012, Plunkett and academic dean Stephen St. Onge spent about a week in China in hopes of laying the groundwork for a new enrollment stream. The results were limited to one Chinese student who attended Burlington College for a year, Plunkett said, and that strategy has been given up.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
24. What is so grandoise about Bernie's plans?
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

Universal Healthcare - This map shows all the countries around the world with universal healthcare. We are down there with the middle east and africa in terms of healthcare coverage.

Free education: Bernie's proposal is only for public colleges, and California used to have free education (and still does for low income students.) College used to be very low cost:

?w=500&h=338

And why can France and Germany have virtually free education, while America can't?


Source: http://www.nonprofitcollegesonline.com/global-tuition/

Paid Maternal Leave:

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
39. You do understand, don't you, that we have free college and health care that, we'd have to
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:02 PM
May 2016

stop building missiles and aircraft carriers? And if we cut our military, we might not have the power to push neoliberal policies that make it easy for US corporations to extract resources from around the world and send American jobs overseas. Now think about this carefully, do you want your children to have a life like those in socialist Denmark and Sweden or do you want them to proudly make it on their own, paying their own way, working three jobs so that they can afford to pay their fair share of taxes to support our military and corporate overlords.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
29. There own damn finances says the same, believing 1 tax return. Or running the campaign finances. Nt
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
30. I've been reading a bunch of stupid anti-Clinton threads
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

So I guess I was due to stumble upon a stupid anti-Bernie one.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
36. How very Republican of you to go after a candidates wife
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

There are two sides to the story. If we are fortunate enough to have Bernie as our candidate Jane will be given the opportunity to tell her side of the story.

Shame.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
37. Lucky indeed. He has shown in these last couple of months that his temperment is also something
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

we don't want anywhere near the presidency. Being motivated by revenge is not the way to graciously govern.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
44. More true than not..sanders always been pie in the sky
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

Grandiose plans...no way to pay and little support...

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
57. Because we need to give 1/2 of our tax money to the military industrial complex!
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

We can't afford to give our tax money back to the people in the form of benefits like in Europe!

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
49. Are you actually a Bernie fan, doing some sort of double-reverse psychology thing?
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:29 PM
May 2016

Because your posts are so over the top, they would make even JaneyVee embarrassed!
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
62. What Bill Clinton did to Monica
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:02 PM
May 2016

Is what Hillary will do to America....

See how goofy your 'logic' is?

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
73. Another display proving that Hillary supporters do nothing but INSULT. What a shame,
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:44 AM
May 2016

you should consider self deleting the op.

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