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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:48 PM May 2016

What are the Clinton supporters most mad about? #1, or #2?

#1... She got caught.

How in the world did she get caught? Thought was she could do anything and get away with it. How did she so badly mismanage the situation and have State's IG issuing such a damaging report that makes her look like she can't really manage?

#2 ... That the FBI is about to issue a report on the FBI investigation, having not cleared her already? What's taking the FBI so long? Don't they know time is of the essence and that the longer it goes on the worse it appears for the Clintons?

I wonder which of the two most disturbs the Clinton camp?

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What are the Clinton supporters most mad about? #1, or #2? (Original Post) RobertEarl May 2016 OP
Don't lose mad. Just lose. nt LexVegas May 2016 #1
That she got caught. 840high May 2016 #2
That may be the worst; Caught RobertEarl May 2016 #5
Both nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #3
#3... That people are talking about it Fumesucker May 2016 #4
#2 is actually not a problem in their book Hydra May 2016 #6
No,they are mad that Bernie is still in the race.. coco77 May 2016 #7
That their candidate is a corrupt conservative and some of us won't accept that Doctor_J May 2016 #8
It can't be #1, no HRC supporters sees another scandel being raised as being 'caught' HereSince1628 May 2016 #9
#1 no question pinebox May 2016 #10
#1 she got caught. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #11
#3. They're mad that we won't accept that government accountability and transparency rule apply only Vote2016 May 2016 #12
Why would I be mad? MyNameGoesHere May 2016 #13
You're not mad she got caught? RobertEarl May 2016 #14
If I got mad about something beyond my control MyNameGoesHere May 2016 #15
I couldn't possibly tell you what Hillary supporters feel. Joob May 2016 #16
Seems to be a lot you don't know Arneoker May 2016 #17
:) Lucinda May 2016 #18
Yeah.. No I've seen that, but I've not seen what Hillary supporters want Joob May 2016 #19
she wasn't hired to manage the technology bigtree May 2016 #20
No, it is not the SoS's job to manage the setup of an outside email karynnj May 2016 #21
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. That may be the worst; Caught
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:55 AM
May 2016

Thing is rest of us were expecting her to get caught doing something. But mismanaging a government email system? That's a surprise. But then, information means money and power. Thankfully we have a SoS who's for honest government, otherwise it would have stayed hidden. Way to go Kerry!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. #3... That people are talking about it
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:50 AM
May 2016

If people don't talk about it nothing happened and everything is fine.

It's kind of the reverse of that thing with the tree in the forest if no one is there to hear it.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
6. #2 is actually not a problem in their book
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:20 AM
May 2016

They are probably thinking that if the bomb drops during the GE cycle, there won't be a way for her to be removed. I see that as the major reason they are screaming for Bernie to get out of the race.

What they are REALLY mad about is that she is not getting a free pass for this- the excuse that the Bush Admin did it was supposed to be the fallback for everything this election...and that might have worked had Jeb been the nominee as planned. Things change and the talking points stay the same.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
7. No,they are mad that Bernie is still in the race..
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:32 AM
May 2016

They want us all to come along to defend her she is tough she can handle it without any help from us,she is battle worn and tested.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. It can't be #1, no HRC supporters sees another scandel being raised as being 'caught'
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:53 AM
May 2016

They see all this as more H H8ing by H8ers because H H8ers H8.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
10. #1 no question
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

It's obvious that they don't care either.
They turn their displaced aggression to us Bernie supporters because we "got in the way" of what was supposed to be a cake walk. Then the FBI happened. What gets me is they act like they simply don't care at all. It's complete disconnect.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
11. #1 she got caught.
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:36 AM
May 2016

But what makes them mad about that is that some of us actually care about honesty and integrity because they don't. We make them look bad.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
12. #3. They're mad that we won't accept that government accountability and transparency rule apply only
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

to Republicans. They assume we're hypocritics, too, and are offended when we act otherwise.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
13. Why would I be mad?
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

That is an emotion I see from the Sanders supporters more often than not. I like to analyze and make choices with a clear head. I can't do that yelling, screaming and ranting and dishonestly call it a informed decision.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
15. If I got mad about something beyond my control
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:52 AM
May 2016

I would be deranged. Or just a mad person ranting and raving.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
16. I couldn't possibly tell you what Hillary supporters feel.
Tue May 31, 2016, 05:18 AM
May 2016

I don't understand them. For instance

Trump people want a Wall/temp ban on muslims (mainly)

Bernie people want (money out of politics, tuition free college/debt free,Universal Healthcare)

Hillary people want ...? ..Idk. (Besides the obvious, yeah would be cool to have first woman president)

But.. Idk what else they get with hillary... Everything the same?

Joob

(1,065 posts)
19. Yeah.. No I've seen that, but I've not seen what Hillary supporters want
Tue May 31, 2016, 05:36 AM
May 2016

What. Do. You. Want.

Quick! Name three things! Top 3 things you want with Hillary!

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
20. she wasn't hired to manage the technology
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:52 AM
May 2016

...and it's sophistry to pretend that's the SoS's function in office.

I'll bet we're not as mad as you are that you can't elect Sanders over this trumped-up scandal.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
21. No, it is not the SoS's job to manage the setup of an outside email
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:08 AM
May 2016

System. The normal process is that the chief of staff for the SoS or the SoS go to the IT people and get the Department equipment and accounts.

I think the Clinton people are angry because, in their view, the primaries should have ended in March as they have in many years. However this is not 2000 or 2004 and Bernie did win 21 contests. Though further behind than she ever was in 2008, Bernie will not be eliminated until June 6 or 7 from potentially getting half the pledged count.

I suspect they might be angriest at those of us who say there are 2 flawed candidates, then reluctantly choose Bernie. They likely feel the same confusion and hurt I felt in 2004 when many now say that while they will vote for her, they will hold their noses. I remember yearning for them to really see Kerry for who he is. I would not be surprised if HRC felt the same with HRC.

There have been many posts that suggest that as she is our nominee there should be no discussion of potential negatives or scandals. It is not just that she has not technically won, but the SD IG report is a big deal. It does not imply she will be indicted or preclude her from being President.

I will vote for her in the general election, bit I will not defend her on this or defend her character. I did that without thought for her and her husband in the 1990s. I can not do it again. I seriously do not get why she did this knowing that if found out, it is an issue.

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