Sanders Candidacy Devolving into an Arrogant Insufferable Self-serving Disaster

[workinclasszero]

Sanders Candidacy Devolving into an Arrogant Insufferable Self-serving Disaster
Peter D. Rosenstein non-profit consultant, public speaker and political activist

Many including me have consistently given Bernie Sanders the credit for fighting for what he believes in and suggesting he should decide on his own when to leave the race. We gave him credit for beginning his campaign with grace and purpose as I did in a recent column. Unfortunately he is choosing to end it as a boor more concerned with boosting his own ego than with moving forward the issues he espoused.

Bernie if Donald Trump wins and gets to appoint a Supreme Court Justice and negates all the progress Barack Obama has fought for in the past eight years, you become the 2016 Ralph Nader. The same Nader who now at age 84 walks around Dupont Circle in Washington, DC with his head down afraid people will recognize him and say “Thanks Ralph for electing George W. Bush.” You don’t want to be that person in a couple of years with people saying ‘Thanks Bernie for electing Donald Trump. “

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-d-rosenstein/sanders-candidacy-devolvi_b_10168566.html

[HassleCat]

1. I am not familiar with Peter D. Rosenstein

But he certainly can transfer bullshit from the bull to his keyboard.

[Trust Buster]

2. Sanders has fooled his followers. I believe that they truly believe that Sanders is about them.

They cannot see that Sanders has been all about Sanders and his ego. He started out as a protest candidate by his own admission until he noticed what effect his outrageous pandering had on college campuses.

[CorkySt.Clair]

8. the allure of promises

When you promise your followers you can solve all their problems it's a very powerful draw.

[Trust Buster]

14. Yes, especially when he almost exclusively panders to younger audiences on college campuses.

The global economy has brought about a fundamental shift on a global basis. Politicians like Trump and Sanders have always attracted attention by pandering to anxiety during such times.

[CorkySt.Clair]

15. Well said

And why I'm not a fan of populism.

[Thenewire]

38. Populism

is breeding ground for ignorance. That is why you get all these false accusations and conspiracies from both trump and Sanders followers. They discredit any information that goes against their perceptions as being establishment or corrupt, even if they originate from progressives. In fact, I would bet most of these conspiracies and ideas populist from both side cling to come from conservative groups trying to shift the focus from social issues where progressives have been winning and united on to economic ideals which cause a deep divide among progressives, not because we disagree on the premise of economic equality but rather because we disagree on how to implement them.

[Skink]

3. Reminds me I got to watch some Bernie events today

They are vey inspirational.

[Demsrule86]

4. Fingers in ears...lalalalal

in a short time reality will hit as Bernie becomes an also ran.

[geek tragedy]

5. Sanders's ego wins if Trump wins.

That way he gets to say "I told you so."

Between his ego and his principles, I know which I'd bet on.

[CorporatistNation]

6. There Is A Candidacy That Meets Your Description, However You Were Describing The OTHER Candidate...

NOT Sanders!

Devolving... Lookie here...

MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[Jester Messiah]

52. Seriously. n/t

[Jackilope]

57. Exactly. Lots of projection by HRC folks. Her faults aren't sticking on Sanders.

[840high]

68. Da truth

[elleng]

77. Exactly.

ENOUGH of this baloney!

[B Calm]

7. and another divisive op from Hillary supporters.

[Trenzalore]

10. Yes the contrast with

The 40 posts that veer from Bill's affairs to prayers for an indictment.

Bernie still says he is in the race so until he leaves, expect Hillary supporters to criticize him because Bernie supporters certainly backing down on the trash they say about Clinton.

[B Calm]

13. 40 links please.

[Trenzalore]

59. Click on GDP and scroll nt

[mindwalker_i]

65. Translation:

"Go prove my point for me."

[Trenzalore]

67. It's memorial day

I'd rather drink a beer than link 40 post to appease a BSer.

[B Calm]

74. What a shame. Just full of it aren't ya!

[Trenzalore]

76. 2 weeks

and I think this place is going to have a much needed change in tone from what others have been saying

[B Calm]

78. Should we drop off the name underground for the few Hillary supporters, because underground

won't have much meaning anymore. Change it to democraticbeltway or democraticestablishment?

[mindwalker_i]

75. Hmmm, so you're more than willing to post and pick fights

... but don't want to spend the time to back up what you say, and instead want other people to prove your point for you. How nice.

[B Calm]

79. That's what dividers do. Hope the administrators are noticing this crap!

[Bohunk68]

11. I wonder if their checks are mailed or direct deposit.

[bvf]

20. Checks?

Try two quarters, sent via bulk mail.

Given the quality of these newbie posts, I'm convinced that the price of a small candy bar covers it in most cases.

I recognize piecework when I see it.

[Mike__M]

58. I thought they were pros

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[RKP5637]

43. Likely both and they all sing the same tune/rhythm. They are so easy to spot! n/t

[asuhornets]

22. Have you even read the anti-Hillary threads that are posted here day in and day out? nt

[B Calm]

24. A few, but the vast majority of them are coming out of the Hillary camp. Just

pointing them out, you can do the same.

[asuhornets]

28. Over 90% are coming out of the Sanders camp for all to see...

Sanders supporters barely post pro-Sanders thread, but anti-Hillary threads..

[B Calm]

81. Well like me, start pointing them out to the adminisitrators.

[dchill]

30. Anti-Hillary=truth.

Amirite?

[asuhornets]

41. Sanders = lost

[CrowCityDem]

9. Bernie is batcrap crazy to say he's pushing to the convention, even if he loses California.

It's a crazy idea to try to steal the nomination from the person who has won the primaries, but it's even crazier to say that he should still be handed the ultimate middle finger to democracy, when he wouldn't have even reached the standards he set for himself. He would have lost the pledged delegates, the popular vote, the most states, the diverse states, the biggest states, and the swing states.

Anyone who can look at that record and still think it's fair to take what he didn't earn is a disgrace to the Democratic party.

[Skink]

12. This is democracy.

King George got the boot.

[CrowCityDem]

21. In a democracy, the person with the most votes wins. That's not what Bernie wants though.

[RKP5637]

44. It should work that way, but often it doesn't. n/t

[KingFlorez]

25. Democracy doesn't mean that the winner loses

[Skink]

29. In a democracy there are no super delegates

Especially ones that come with a price tag

[KingFlorez]

31. The odd thing is, Clinton will get the required number of pledged delegates next week

Superdelegates aren't even deciding this race, it is the voters who have decided.

[Skink]

33. No she won't.

Sorry to break the news

[KingFlorez]

40. Clinton only needs between 256 and 258 pledged delegates to reach 2026

That will happen easily next week.

[Skink]

45. Wrong number

Without supers HRC would have faced much more competition. Bernie might not have gotten in. In that case you could use the smaller number.

[bravenak]

73. But you added in SUPERDELEGATES for her to reach her total

Last edited Mon May 30, 2016, 04:01 PM - Edit history (1)

If you are saying she has to reach 2383, then you are counting supers. Otherwise the number of pleged delegates to have a majority of PLEDGED delegates is LOWER. If she has to reach the majority of ALL DELEGATES, then we must include her supers. None of them are switching to bernie. Not after all that harassment!

[Rattlesnake Chaser]

39. Democracy also means...

That the frontrunner has to cheat and screw around with the machinations, and her cronies fuck up every standard possible for a Democratic primary. Mainstream Media complicit on focusing on the 1%, which means the top two candidates are oligarchs, and not for the people.

Yep, that's what Democracy means to you, and I'll pass.

To me democratic primary is a clean and open process (which includes fair coverage by the media) which invites unaffiliated members to vote for our candidates, the best possible one that would stand for the principles of the progressives.

I didn't see a clean democratic primaries this year.

[KingFlorez]

42. Stop repeating the cheating nonsense

No one was cheated, Sanders is just a crap candidate, especially when it comes to winning actual Democrats (and non-whites). In the DEMOCRATIC primary, Democrats pick the nominee and that is perfectly fair. Sanders should have started his own party and appointed himself as the nominee of that party.

[dchill]

32. "...even if he loses California."

Where do you get your ideas?

[CrowCityDem]

50. From Bernie. He said it yesterday on tv.

[PowerToThePeople]

16. A professional lobbyist against Bernie.

Surprise surprise.

If you take money out of politics, his cushy high pay non-productive job goes bye-bye.

Leaches fighting to continue to leach

Capitalism is a cancer that will kill us all.

[redstateblues]

34. Remember the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics?

Socialism is certainly not the answer

[PowerToThePeople]

36. Nice try.

Learn some history.

Start getting information from other sources than Rush and Fox.

[redstateblues]

82. Nope. I don't do that. Sounds like you've been reading Socialist Worker

The excuse for the failure of the USSR was that It wasn't really true socialism like Cuba. We already have a hybrid system with lots of successful socialist features like graduated income tax and Medicare but pure Marxist socialism with the government controlling the means of production has never succeeded despite guys like Richard Wolff who continue to beat a dead horse.

[RKP5637]

46. Well said!!! >>> "Capitalism is a cancer that will kill us all." It's so sad to see so

many have been propagandized/brainwashed into believing/supporting that 'disaster capitalism' with a severely skewed distribution of wealth is good and the only way.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Another peremptory "blame the Left" strike if Hillary loses...again.

EEEEK!!! NADER!!

[aikoaiko]

18. I'm so glad Bernie is making the right people pissed off and ugly.

Go Bernie Go.

HRC supporters are showing more of their true despicable selves every day you stay in.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

19. supposedly she's winning, but ya'll still bashing bernie makes me wonder...

[redstateblues]

83. As long as he keeps helping Trump

He's fair game

[Viva_La_Revolution]

85. she has damaged herself. fracking, changing what she says, haiti, the server

None of that can be blamed on bernie

[Octafish]

23. Operation ENDURING LUNCHBUCKET

http://prosenstein.com/

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

37. On his resume: "Finance committee member Hillary for America."

:lol:

[QC]

55. And "Only DC elected Hillary Clinton Delegate 2008"

Lobbyist and Hillary Functionary Loves Hillary!

[Mnpaul]

60. It sounds like he is looking to cash in under Hillary

self serving 101

[QC]

61. Well, he has reason for optimism, given how much swag

the Clintons hand out to their most loyal functionaries.

Look at all that Money Sidney Blumenthal 007 got from the family "charity."

[KingFlorez]

26. There is still more money to be squeezed out of supporters

There is a good reason he has not released those tax returns.

[RKP5637]

47. I left the democratic party and I come from a staunch democratic politically

connected family in the past for decades and decades into the 1800's. The democratic party has drastically changed. None would recognize today's democratic party if alive. I just could not support the DNC/DLC/3rd-Way/DWS/HRC, so I became Independent/Unaffiliated, the largest group in the US. Many are fed up with the entire political system in the US. I will vote by the candidate, not by DNC mandates.

[Eric J in MN]

35. Jealousy

I bet this "public speaker and political activist" wishes he could go from town-to-town in California with huge cheering audiences showing up in each town.

[mac56]

51. ^ THIS ^

[mac56]

53. Last week I couldn't even spell "public speaker and political activist."

Now I are one.

[pmorlan1]

48. Bernie is in it until the end

He said at the beginning of the campaign that he was in it until the end. This is not something new. We all know what he said. Can we please just let this campaign play out and stop insulting each other in every thread?

[beachbumbob]

49. Some Sander supporters even throwing the hate on hillary

For being in a Memorial Day parade....and trying to make Memorial Day all about Iraq...screw Iraq...We have our service people to honor today...it not about Iraq...it's about those who made the sacrifice to serve our country and those who died in doing so....a new low level reached by some sanders supporters

[AgingAmerican]

54. Clinton Candidacy Devolving into an Arrogant Insufferable Self-serving Disaster

Which will lose the general election

[Bobbie Jo]

56. K&R

[MariaThinks]

62. i despise ralph nader for helping george bush to steal his way into office

[workinclasszero]

66. The whole world does too

Except for leftist tea baggers like Susan Sarandon and her ilk.

[Waiting For Everyman]

63. What a spectacular case of projection.

[saltpoint]

64. There is some encouraging new about Hillary's

campaign.

In recent days they've actually found people in the audience awake.

Sure, it was only for a couple seconds, but still.

[840high]

71. Such enthusiasm - not

[Vote2016]

69. Project you own faults onto your opponent much?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

70. it will be thanks Hillary for electing Trump

the writing is on the wall for her. she needs to bow out gracefully ASAP

[workinclasszero]

72. This writing on the wall?

If Bernie had any grace at all, he would have bowed out weeks ago to the democratic nominee, HRC.

[cliffordu]

80. and the Headline Is Capitalized

So we know it's true

[k8conant]

84. Rosenstein has always been against Sanders...

July 9, 2015:

"In an effort to be transparent, I need to let you know that I am an unabashed and longtime supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton. My passionate support for Hillary Clinton is based on my belief that she is far and away the best-prepared person to run for president in decades."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-d-rosenstein/an-open-letter-to-bernie_b_7761360.html