If Berners don't want to be called right-wingers.

[YouDig]

Then Berners should stop repeating right-wing smears.

#8moredays

[Press Virginia]

1. Example?

[mac56]

4. Don't hold your breath waiting.

[Press Virginia]

6. I'm wondering if any negative news

regarding a certain server or foundation would be considered a RW smear, even if it's a huge story carried by approved media sources.

[mac56]

11. Anything short of deferential adoration

will be considered a RW smear.

[Press Virginia]

13. just like a certain place that is found here?

Got it

[CorporatistNation]

134. The ONLY RIGHT WINGER In The Democratic Primary Race... Is NOT Bernie Sanders!

Expect Much More Of THIS from Hillary... WHO IS NOT The Nominee By The Fucking RULES of The Party And zRecently REITERATED ByA Party Rep W/ Jake Tapper on Clinton News Network!

e.g., MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. The OIG report is part of the VRWC at this point

the FBI report will be...

[Press Virginia]

16. Yes. The VRWC has now included John Kerry and the President's own

appointees.

It IS vast

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Soon it will include the president himself

[Press Virginia]

21. Of course.

[brush]

29. The FBI report will be part of a late Friday afternoon document dump, as is done . . .

with most stories where little media attention is wanted.

There's no criminal intent, therefore no recommendation by the FBI for an indictment.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. Ok... so how exactly did the insignificant OIG report play already?

Oh wait... it has been quite insignificant.

You guys have been under estimating this story the same way you have been under estimating Trump. I am far from impressed.

[brush]

43. I'm even less impressed with the prayer bead clutching, a-hopin' and a-prayin' . . .

for an indictment crowd so a runner-up can get the nomination.

Cabinet secretaries are heads of their departments. They decide what to do with recommendations from people who work under them. They can accept or reject them.

The OIG, FBI, or any other alphabet agency you can name can spew out reports all they want, but if their is not criminal intent by a department head running her department as she wishes, there will be no indictment.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. The gun is cocked, the round is in the chamber

if your party wants to commit political suicide go for it. I mean it, but don't blame the people who told you for months this was coming.

Don't worry, after Trump is elected I will blame you and your party for the disaster.

[brush]

54. Oh now it's not even your party, huh? Not to worry though. Trump will lose spectacularly.

[nadinbrzezinski]

56. It has not been since 2011

I became a Decline to state voter in CA... I am one of those dreaded independents.

So go ahead... continue to under estimate... I expect you

[brush]

61. I'm sure we've went over this before. The Obama coalition, remember?

Latino Americans, African Americans, sensible progressive whites who don't want Trump appointing the next 3-4 SCOTUS justices, Native Americans, gays, women, disabled Americans, and sensible left-leaning and moderate independents who also don't want Trump appointing the next 3-4 SCOTUS justices will come out and vote in Clinton just as we didn't for Obama in '08 and '12.

We outnumber the angry and/or racist whites that back Trump. That was shown in '12 when Romney got a huge majority of the white vote but still lost handily.

[nadinbrzezinski]

65. This has not one wit to do with coalitions

this is a mature scandal, Your candidate is weak, not a natural politician and now wounded. It is your choice. For all I care, her replacement could be the man on the moon. So don't do that. You are not getting this. Shit is now hitting the oscillatory device.

[brush]

81. Come on, you're getting too carried away with this.

Sh_t is not hitting the fan. You guys are sounding like Chicken Little here with this stuff. It it was going to happen it would have already happened weeks ago.

There is no smoking gun of criminal intent, and there will be no indictment.

And has it ever crossed your mind that if Clinton was indicted, we're all be screwed as the party would be tarred by 24/7 ads funded by the Kochs and Adelson. And Bernie's socialist background would also be thrown in

So Sanders wouldn't have a chance, nor would Biden or Warren if they agreed to play the Johnny-come-lately role.

Trump would win in a walk so we need to drop the prayer beads and slowly back away from the ledge.

[nadinbrzezinski]

82. You can only lead to a horse to the water

you cannot make them drink it.

And yes the potential election of a fascist is a problem, and the fact that your party will enable it. is a bigger problem. Historians will not be kind. And no, you are not going to blame me for the loss in November.

I am not getting carried away... it is a real scandal, I recommend you avoid CNN, MSNBC might be safe for the moment, though their reporting was scathing.

This includes reporting from both Mitchell and Todd

And this is the best one

So maybe avoid even the friendly press. They are pissed.

[brush]

85. They are pissed? No they're loving it — media speculation and horse race stuff . . .

equals ratings equals cash money.

They want to keep this going as long as possible.

You have to know this.

You should also know their going on about breaking State Dept. rules is sheer hyperbole as, as head of the State Department, Clinton would have been the one to set the rules. And we're talking about her State Dept., not the current one, which is why there will be no indictment.

[GummyBearz]

120. One thing where I think you are wrong here...

"And no, you are not going to blame me for the loss in November"

They will DEFINITELY blame you (and me) for a loss in November

[Lord Magus]

125. So because Morning Joke is on MSNBC we should pretend it's not right-wing? -nt-

[-none]

36. Criminal intent is not needed.

She violated national security by having classified material on her private, unauthorized for work server. That is a known fact.

[brush]

64. Haven't you heard, material that was classified later?

Are you a Snowden fan? If you wanna talk about classified material, How about him?

He stole classified material and fled to our biggest rivals who I'm certain now have that material.

If Snowden hasn't been indicted in absentia, Clinton's won't be either, and she's right here, heading for the Democratic nomination for president, no matter how much the runner-up's fans pray it were not so.

[nadinbrzezinski]

66. You might want to read this very early piece from Reuters

blows that sky hi

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

[-none]

86. Snowden has nothing to do with the classified information Hillary mishandled

on her unauthorized, privately owned server, Hillary was told not to use. Your use of Snowden is nothing more than your attempt at diversion here. Nothing more. If you really had something you'd stick to the subject.

[brush]

87. Ok, leave Snowden out of it, even though he stole classified info and no one . . .

is calling for his indictment.

How about this: As head of the State Department, Clinton either accepted or rejected suggestions and/or recommendations from IT people who worked for her. She was their boss and was the one to set the rules in her department.

And we're talking about her State Dept., not the current one, which is why there will be no indictment.

[-none]

88. We'll see.

Hillary was appointed by Obama, therefore Obama was her boss. Obama told Hillary not to use Sydney Blumenthal as an adviser. Hillary did anyway. Sydney Blumenthal did not have any security clearance, but he gave Hillary top secret E-mails. Hillary also sent Sydney Blumenthal unauthorized security information after striping off the security classification information.
It was never up to Hillary to decide what was and what not classified. That task is up to other agencies in the government.
This security review is in reality a criminal investigation by the FBI, into the way Hillary ran the State Department and treated classified nation security information.

[brush]

90. Like you said, we'll see.

Department heads are usually afforded full reign as to how they see fit to run their department.

This will most likely end with a late Friday afternoon document dump, as is done when little media attention is wanted, with no recommendation for indictment.

And we should all be glad there will be no indictment because that would taint the whole party, including Sanders, and leave the presidency wide open for Trump.

[Bill USA]

110. in fairness, this may very well not be a true Bernie fan, but a Repugnant "for" Bernie..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512096390

[Bill USA]

111. here's another. complete nonsense

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512102002

[Bill USA]

112. right out of the Karl Rove guidebook on repeating of Big Lies

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512123553

[Bill USA]

115. a really good example.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2135917

[Bill USA]

130. another example...LOL!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2138986

[Trust Buster]

2. They can't help themselves. Their candidate couldn't win on the merits. He's too far behind.

[SMC22307]

10. "He'll only win Vermont."

Ah, good thorny times in Hillary's side.

[merrily]

53. Some said Bernie would not win even Vermont, which he won only by 86.1%

[randome]

116. Here's the generalized difference between Clinton and Sanders supporters.

Clinton supporters are more likely to shrug and say, "We were wrong."
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[merrily]

131. Seriously? You dug up my post from May 31 to make a comment with no relation to me

and no basis in reality?

How you could read this board and make the claim you made about shrugging is beyond me. Maybe for reasons similar to why people posted Sanders would not be able to carry Vermont.

[randome]

132. Sure, it couldn't be because I didn't look at the date of the post.

It must be because I'm a big meanie, right?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[merrily]

133. Um, the date was not exactly my only criticism of your post.

And no one but you said a thing about "mean." So, another post from you that has nothing to do with me or with reality. You must be on a roll. Let me guess: you'll go for thirdsies.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. I thought we were Communists?

Is being a right-wing Communist anything like being an atheist Kenyan Muslim?

[Hydra]

60. It's sorta like that

And comes from the same wing.

[OwlinAZ]

104. Very nice nt

[Mnpaul]

119. I thought we were the far left

someone is confused or just flinging meaningless drivel.

All the right wing policy being promoted comes from Clinton supporters

[morningfog]

5. You're still here?

[YouDig]

8. You're still here? #8moredays

[morningfog]

62. Is that when your contract runs out?

[One Black Sheep]

7. On a roll today, eh?

posting multiple threads like crazzzzyy..

In any case, the attacks I commonly see coming from Bernie supporters is from the left flank of Hillary, and not right wing at all.

[mac56]

15. Piece rate work.

You gotta go for volume.

[One Black Sheep]

23. lol

evidently...

[GRhodes]

18. He or she

gets paid by the post, and there's a bonus for each voter he or she alienates. At this rate, he or she will retire early.

[One Black Sheep]

24. ha ha ha

[SMC22307]

63. Disagree with your second point. No one on a message board...

has the power to alienate me, or influence my vote. Evidently the same isn't true for some former Sanders supporters, some that insist -- ad nauseam -- that they let total strangers influence their vote and drive them to Hillary, even though they can't stand her. Like magic, they're supporters!

*Totally* believable!

[SMC22307]

9. Late last summer, DU's resident expert on black/Jewish relations called us all racists...

now you with "right-wingers"? Pfft.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. That same poster OFF SITE of course

even intimated that my personal history is made up.

[QC]

20. Is that the site where they said Bernie is secretly working

for the Israelis, who are going to give him a bunch of money for being a meanie to Hillary or some such crazy bullshit?

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. One of the two, where actual open

well, it's allowed

[SMC22307]

69. They're a nasty bunch, and stand for nothing.

Many trashed Hillary every which way in 2008, yet are now some of her biggest cheerleaders. I'm not sure where they think people fall for that sort of bullshit, but DU *ain't* it. It would be interesting to know that site's legit-to-sock ratio (if it even still exists!). Hell, DU's legit-to-sock ratio.

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. There is a drawer full of socks here at home

[Viva_La_Revolution]

17. in 8 days the goalpost will be moved again, cause she still won't have enough pledged dels

[YouDig]

22. #berniemath

[Viva_La_Revolution]

31. no, MATH Math

The media may call it sooner, although that report seems to be giving them a little pause.

[brush]

34. What does that even mean?

She'll have way more pledged delegates than Sanders so if the goalpost is moved, it'll be even farther away from Sanders, right?

What's up with that?

Snark sometimes has unintended consequences?

[Phlem]

25. Oh the irony.

[melman]

26. Wow

Almost 1500 posts in just a little more than a month.

So many prolific and super-aggressive new Hillary posters lately. Must be a big coincidence.

[merrily]

50. Brock made no secret about recent hires.

It's the past hires that no one has owned up to.

[amborin]

57. mysterious sleeper accounts newly activated....whereas this is a new hire: four pennies per post

[politicaljunkie41910]

27. And while Hillary and Bill Clinton are fair game on any topic, no matter how kookie

Just the mere thought of Jane Sanders is off limits. But Bernie's supporters won't be able to silence everyone. People are going to want to know just how did Jane Sanders get a job as a college president paying $160,000 with a PhD that she earned on the internet. How does her education and experience in social work and heading up an afternoon program for teens qualify her for her position as a college president, or a position on a state board dealing with the disposal on nuclear waste? I can't wait until the RWers ask these questions and see what Jane has to say.

[merrily]

48. She had done a good job as acting. head of Goddard College.

So a story on the internet says.

But, gee, it should be no surprise to DU that people like to hire people they perceive as well-connected.

[Phlem]

28. So you joined Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:35 PM and have 1500 posts?

Someone's been putting in the hours.

It's taken 10 + years to beak 6000.

Wow, and you think people don't know your a troll?

[QC]

35. In fairness, you have to admire that kind of work ethic.

It's rare these days.

Sadly, though, quality control tends to fail in piecework situations.

[morningfog]

73. A returnee. Don't know why the admins tolerate this repeat offender.

[Phlem]

91. Skinner is pro Hillary.

That should tell you all you need to know.

[RufusTFirefly]

30. California truly terrifies you, doesn't it?

Or perhaps it's just the Inspector General's report or maybe the F.B.I.?

My advice: Take a break. Find someone who will hold your hand.

Really. It's going to be OK.

[Jackilope]

38. Over 20,000 in Oakland went to see Bernie today.

My advice to the troll is opposite. Be terrified! Despite what trolls get paid, real people are enthusiastic and want to see and hear Bernie. HRC has to pay people to troll and fake enthusiasm. How sad and pathetic is that??

[QC]

40. Yeah, but Bernie always does well in places close to Vermont.

Don't worry. #shesgotthis

[RufusTFirefly]

41. Charisma alone will be enough to push Hillary over the top

Count on it. After all, look how well it worked in 2008!

[QC]

46. She's likable enough,

as the guy she was certain to defeat said at the time.

[RufusTFirefly]

49. Haha! Good one!

Just re-watched that video moment today. Perhaps you did too.

[QC]

51. Here's another classic video clip from the time.

[catnhatnh]

37. Or we could put you on ignore...

[Fawke Em]

39. All my criticisms of her are from the left.

So I'm not all that concerned.

[merrily]

42. So true. Only supporters of Hillary should be able to post right wing smears!

[jillan]

44. The only right wingers on this site are people telling other people what they can & cannot do Or

telling people who to vote for.

Demanding other people fall in line, not to question is a right wing tactic.

[PowerToThePeople]

123. ^this

[Broward]

45. You're either a right-winger or you're getting paid by one.

[RufusTFirefly]

52. Or what about both?

Think what a racket that would be!

Good night!

But before you go to sleep, make sure your pistol's under your pillow, and don't forget to check under your bed for any "democratic socialists"!

[Broward]

55. Yes, very well could be both.

[QC]

58. I check under there every night. Also the closets and garage.

[nadinbrzezinski]

68. Oh my, I am in trouble, what devil

the copy of the Communist Manifesto was feeling a tad hot... must be all that fire and brimstone!

[QC]

70. Satan and Bernie Sanders have you in their power now!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

72. Da Kamerad

[QC]

74. Da. Firm right hand of proletariat will crush

bourgeois kulaks and counterrevolutionaries and shoot down sleigh of Santa.

[nadinbrzezinski]

77. Oh my the Ruskies have been on this war against Christmas for a while

haven't they?

Snicker

[DemocraticWing]

59. If you think socialism is right-wing, you need to get your head examined.

Just say we're too far left for your tastes: it's an insult I'll gladly take, and a lot more honest.

[jfern]

67. I've been accused of using right-wing attacks when I called her a hawk.

So nope, I won't change a damn thing. If your candidate is so pathetic that she can't handle criticism, then she is super weak.

[youceyec]

80. Objectively

there's not a politician alive today that has handled more criticism than Hillary Clinton. she is a Pioneer so I suppose it is expected. What is surprising is the gutter politics some so-called misleading people that decided to engage in.

extremes of other party is not healthy or good. sometimes it feels like you folks want to turn us into Venezuela.

[frylock]

97. Perhaps you feel that Honduras is a better model of democracy.

[akbacchus_BC]

75. What a sickening post? You all are Americans, why the hate towards a progressive candidate?

[Scootaloo]

76. I think you need to learn the meanings of the words you try to use.

[highprincipleswork]

78. We like to deal with the reality before us, like FBI investigations. You ought to try it sometime.

By the way, not saying it's going to amount to indictments. It doesn't even have to before it turns off voters.

Was it started by rightwing smears? What I've read is that John Kerry initiated the request for looking into this issue, or at least was part of that.

Just ignoring it seems ridiculous. And I have to confess, it all sounds like a colossal case of bad judgment and questionable activity that deserves at the very least investigation and very likely some form of censure or punishment. Neither good for someone representing the Democratic Party and our chances in November.

There are undoubtedly other things that you call "rightwing smears". Suggestion - see if they really are that, and only that, before smacking that label on it or just assuming it's correct because the echo chamber starts repeating that chorus.

Yes, I'd like to believe in enlightened government, and I'd like to think the Democratic Party can be that for us. But not if it acts and speaks in the least enlightened ways.

[KeepItReal]

79. And *that* is how you get 1400+ posts in 6 weeks, y'all.

Blanket statements with no supporting facts or links.

I heard you can get paid by the Hillary camp to do that nowadays.

[seekthetruth]

83. Hush.

Her Majesty is ascending......

[Live and Learn]

84. By that logic Hillers are right-wingers too, right? nt

[cliffordu]

89. Well, instead of that, why don't you

work on understanding that criticizing dishonesty and graft and corruption aren't right wing talking points in and of themselves?

[Orsino]

92. Another goddamned "supporters" thread. n/t

[VulgarPoet]

93. Orsino, I absolutely adore you. nt

[VulgarPoet]

94. So explain to me how the fuck I can be extreme fringe-left and right wing at the same damn time? eom

[Vinca]

95. What are you considering a right-wing smear?

Discussing an investigation that is actually taking place is not repeating a smear. It's repeating a fact.

[mmonk]

96. The rightwing smear from the State Dept. I. G. or the presumed smear

coming from the FBI?

[eastwestdem]

98. Makes good sense... nt

[Bluenorthwest]

99. Too bad your OP is so opaque, we have to look elswhere for transparency....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=332965&sub=trans

[YouDig]

100. Again? You still haven't figured out that 7>6?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=211998&sub=trans

[Bluenorthwest]

106. That's what it's there for, this is open warfare according to the Admins, I'm not the one whining

about it. I played by the rules until they changed to no rules at all after years here. I'm not going to play nice when the Admins called for all out war. Why would I? You don't. And you have only been here a few fucking weeks. So why would I not protect myself here?

The riot rules were not my choice, got complaints take them to Skinner.

[YouDig]

107. Did I whine? What are you talking about? I have no complaints.

I'm just pointing out how dumb it is for you to chase me around and post links to my hide page when you have a bigger hide page.

You gotta admit...

[AgingAmerican]

101. Translation: Hillary supporters have been attacking Sanders and his supporters with right wing

...talking points for months and months on end.

I can post many examples if you so desire...

[YouDig]

102. In my time here, I've only seen Berners post links to right-wing media.

Mostly about the emails. Today there was one from Steve Forbes, for example.

[B Calm]

103. Another day of mud slinging from Hillary supporters. Trashing Thread

[highprincipleswork]

105. What you forget is that we know who the real right-wingers are around here, politically speaking.

Therefore, it doesn't hurt so much to be called that name.

It's a shame, in fact, that so many Left-leaning people are backing the Right-leaning candidate for a variety of reasons that many of us find suspect. But everyone surely has their right to back the candidate of their choice.

As to us "repeating right-wing smears", I feel sure we are repeating news that seems relevant or right or like something that should be paid attention to. We could, of course, hide our heads in the sand, but that is not wise.

[bobbobbins01]

108. Call me whatever you want.

I don't give a fuck. I stand by my beliefs.

[phleshdef]

109. Lol and you thought this statement was worthy of an OP?

What a waste of bandwidth and DU database space.

[Bill USA]

113. still showing allegiance to the Big Lie, Goebbels is smiling in his grave.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2096390

[Orsino]

114. Another goddamned "supporters" thread. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

118. If you don't want your soup to taste like poop

stop pooping in the soup.

[baldguy]

121. But, they'd have nothing to say then.

[PufPuf23]

122. Are you kidding? The current Democratic establishment largely legislates and operates right wing.

Hillary Clinton (and POTUS Obama as well) is a neo-liberal in economic policy; this is the right wing economic policy popularized at the University of Chicago, exported internationally by the USA with the blessings of Kissinger, and what became the predominant domestic economic policy under Raegan, and adopted into the Democratic party under Bill Clinton and the New Democrats (or whatever one calls the Democratic party neo-liberals).

Hillary Clinton is a neo-conservative in foreign policy; this is the right wing foreign policy formulated by (among others) the Project for a New American Century with the agenda to militarily dominate the globe. The first PNAC projects were the Balkans (former Yugoslavia) and Plan Colombia (for Latin America, not just Colombia) under POTUS Bill Clinton. The PNAC project accelerated under GWB and Cheney with the aim of regime change in seven nations of the Middle East; establishment of an arc of control from Pakistan to Georgia on the Black Sea, and another arc of control from the Horn of Africa to the Gulf of Guinea.

The Free Trade Agreements go hand in hand with the military global foot print to secure trade routes and mercantile centers.

ACA originated as a right wing / GOP answer to health care.

Charter and privatization of schools are right wing.

University costs have risen so dramatically because of right wing policies.

Social Darwinism and the great economic inequality of our times is right wing.

Law enforcement has been militarized and private prisons have been built because of right wing policies.

And so on.

Sanders at least in theory is a check on these long term right wing trends by the USA and the Democratic party.

But you already knew that when you typed your OP.

BTW I have been a registered and voting member of the Democratic party since voted for McGovern in 1972 and first self-identified as a Democrat age 15, 1968.

[aikoaiko]

124. Have you cycled back to March's talking points.

[stupidicus]

126. yes, the grossly dumb and/or dishonest confuse facts with smears

and rightwingers obviously lack a monopoly on both those types

[AzDar]

127. If Obvious Trolls Don't want to be called Obvious Trolls... They shouldn't Troll Obviously

DU is becoming quite the cesspool...

[Bill USA]

128. cesspool indeed. But to be fair, I think most of the McCarthyist disinformation is coming from

Repugnants "for" Bernie, not true Bernie supporters. OF course, many Bernie supporters swallow that Repugnant disinformation in part because they have only been giving questions of public policy and politics any thought for a year of two. Inexperience makes them easy to confuse with McCarthyist Bullshit.

[AzDar]

129. Uh-Huh.

[hobbit709]

135. And if you don't want to be called an idiot, then don't post idiotic posts.