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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:53 PM May 2016

Wishing and hoping and praying for an indictment...

it ain't going to happen.. there is no indictment floating in the ether that will fall and give Bernie the nomination.

Not going to happen.

Getting excited over every right wing posting about Hillary being taken away in chains.. is just a right wing fantasy.. that will give you nothing but a migraine if you count on the possibility..



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Wishing and hoping and praying for an indictment... (Original Post) Peacetrain May 2016 OP
The results of CA won't matter either Renew Deal May 2016 #1
You chose the moniker Peacetrain but support Clinton? Ash_F May 2016 #2
I have had that moniker for 8 years and was Obama in 2008 in opposition to HRC Peacetrain May 2016 #3
Obama over HRC makes more sense to me. Ash_F May 2016 #4
Ash.. looking back is 20/20 vision.. Peacetrain May 2016 #5
Colin Powell knew better. HubertHeaver May 2016 #25
They took the bait and now you are...... seekthetruth May 2016 #26
Sanders voted for military action more than Hillary has, makes Sanders for war more than Hillary. Thinkingabout May 2016 #7
bernie has no objections to all the killing as a result of his funding the MIC wars nt msongs May 2016 #9
Exactly, he loves the F-35 program and the drone manufacture also, he even says he will Thinkingabout May 2016 #20
What proof do you have? Ash_F May 2016 #11
His voting record. Thinkingabout May 2016 #12
On which he voted against the Iraq war. Ash_F May 2016 #13
Do you think the only military action which came up for vote while Sanders has been Thinkingabout May 2016 #18
He voted TWICE for regime change in Iraq - and those votes formed the basis of the IWR resolution. MADem May 2016 #35
Not right wing attacks either lmbradford May 2016 #6
She certainly did. 840high May 2016 #29
The IG report is not part of the VRWC sorry nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #8
Not happening Nad.. wishful thinking will not make it so Peacetrain May 2016 #10
Actually I suspect a grand jury has been empaneled nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #15
"Voting for Clinton is suicide, but I'm not advocating for Sanders" geek tragedy May 2016 #16
When a party runs a candidate that is this damaged nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #19
Some really interesting imagery you're going with tonight. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #30
Yeah political suicide for a national party is quite fun nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #32
I am not the one that keeps under estimating Trump or this scandal nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #33
Ok CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #34
Suspecting somethign is not fact.. and thats the issue Nad Peacetrain May 2016 #21
Dear this is not about bringing her down nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #24
You probably should drop that "dear" schtick. I've seen you do it a lot lately. nt MADem May 2016 #36
I'm wishing, hoping and praying for... Peachhead22 May 2016 #14
the republican churn machine will do its best to muddy any Peacetrain May 2016 #17
Which is why... Peachhead22 May 2016 #23
My take on this is that it has evolved and is now leading into the libdem4life May 2016 #22
Burying your head in the sand and pretending that Clinton can ever with the GE.... Live and Learn May 2016 #27
Better now, then October Joe the Revelator May 2016 #28
Yep. n/t Lucinda May 2016 #37

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
3. I have had that moniker for 8 years and was Obama in 2008 in opposition to HRC
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:00 AM
May 2016

Yes I support Clinton as the better choice..

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
5. Ash.. looking back is 20/20 vision..
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:07 AM
May 2016

And I give Bernie all the props in the world for opposing the war as did Obama.. but while we beat the proverbial crap out of these canidates who made that vote for war.. we tend to forget that the Bush administration lied to congress.. poor Colin Powell sitting at the UN spouting the lies that had been fed to him.. they were all lied to..

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
25. Colin Powell knew better.
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:34 AM
May 2016

Of course we all knew better. But he had access to information that we did not.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
20. Exactly, he loves the F-35 program and the drone manufacture also, he even says he will
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:29 AM
May 2016

take military action and use drones.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. Do you think the only military action which came up for vote while Sanders has been
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:28 AM
May 2016

in congress is the IWR? No, there have been more, look at his voting record, this can not be changed and is a part of history forever.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. He voted TWICE for regime change in Iraq - and those votes formed the basis of the IWR resolution.
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:16 AM
May 2016

Who thinks regime change is a matter of "Pretty please?" Anyone?

It's accomplished by force of some sort.


This isn't news: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/16/blood-traces-bernies-iraq-war-hypocrisy/

lmbradford

(517 posts)
6. Not right wing attacks either
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:10 AM
May 2016

This investigation was started by Kerry. This is Obamas IG who released the report. There is nothing right wing about it. This is real.

She did it to herself.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. The IG report is not part of the VRWC sorry
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:15 AM
May 2016

I know the FBI report will be part of it too. But it is coming. and the press is not laying off either. I am sorry... I really mean it. But this will be hard on you folks. But if you all decide to use that loaded gun on the table to commit political suicide, go for it, Just don't blame us, we have been trying to warn you,.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
10. Not happening Nad.. wishful thinking will not make it so
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:18 AM
May 2016

What grand jury has been set up for an indictment??

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. Actually I suspect a grand jury has been empaneled
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:24 AM
May 2016

and no, they don't tell you when those are.

As is, I suspect it is you guys living in denial. The news will continue to his this... and the bunker mentally is a classic of a mature scandal as well.



Don't worry, you will have your safe space soon, but the news is not stoping. and the FBI is going apace. I am sorry, I mean it, hard times. And i do hope people much higher than your pay grade are waking up to this. In fact, I think they are.

And it is your choice, give the WH to trump, and use that loaded gun, or not.

Oh and don't Sanders me, or voter me. This has nothing to do with that.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. "Voting for Clinton is suicide, but I'm not advocating for Sanders"
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:26 AM
May 2016

Lol, will you come back and admit your error when the Indictment Fairy fails to materialize?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. When a party runs a candidate that is this damaged
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:29 AM
May 2016

I an not the guilty one for that. So do not blame the people who tried to warn you. IF you chose to use that loaded gun, that is on you. I suspect your party elders are waking up to that reality. And who your party elders chose, I don't give two fucks about it. For all I care you could run the man on the moon. And you could chose him after proper sacrifice of goats to the gods and reading of entrails

But if you chose to use that gun... by all means, I am not going to stop you.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
31. Yeah political suicide for a national party is quite fun
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:59 AM
May 2016

Would you prefer a nuke? It is possible this will blow the party brand for a generation.

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #31)

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
33. I am not the one that keeps under estimating Trump or this scandal
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:00 AM
May 2016

that would be people like you.

And no I an not tweety. He is a moron

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
21. Suspecting somethign is not fact.. and thats the issue Nad
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:32 AM
May 2016

It will be non stop attempts to go after her and bring her down.. that is not going to stop.. Any candidate running in opposition to the republicans has to face that crazy machine..

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
24. Dear this is not about bringing her down
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:36 AM
May 2016

your stark choice, and that of your party is coming. Party, country, it is coming. You guys have been under estimating both TRUmp and this for months. la, la, la is not going to cut it.

But the bunker mentality is a classic

She is now the tool you can use to commit political suicide. This is far more real than actually trying to stop a depressed person from committing actual for real suicide. But all you have to do at this point, and some of you will, is pick up that that gun and pull the trigger. You may even destroy the party brand for a generation... not that I care, it is not my party anymore. But I care about your party enabling the election of a fascist. Congrats.

And spare me the Sanders talk, This is well beyond mere electoral politics anymore. IT is already hitting the fan. I expect you guys to blame me and others, well we tried to warn you. We will not take the blame for your historic mistake.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
14. I'm wishing, hoping and praying for...
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:24 AM
May 2016

...a crystal clear statement from the FBI saying she did absolutely nothing wrong. Because anything less than that doesn't remove the cloud over her head and fuels Republican talking points. Which hurts everyone trying to keep Trump out of the White House. Plus our downticket. Maybe for years to come.

And with the letter from the State Dept OIG a total exoneration is out the window. Even if the FBI doesn't recommend an indictment. Do we really want a Democrat to run with the slogan "At least she didn't break criminal law...technically"?


I'd use the common colloquialism that I want to FBI to "do something" or get off the "something". But I'm quite confident a Hillary supporter would twist it around and intentionally misinterpret it if I used a four letter word within several paragraphs of their candidates name.

In other words: Stop with the fantasies of what my and other peoples desires and motives are.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
17. the republican churn machine will do its best to muddy any
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:27 AM
May 2016

Democratic candidate.. its can they stand up to the incoming.. that is the sad fact of politics for the last 40 years..

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
23. Which is why...
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:33 AM
May 2016

...we shouldn't give them such an easy target and loan them a couple metric tons of mud.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
22. My take on this is that it has evolved and is now leading into the
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:32 AM
May 2016

Clinton Foundation, and the potential there is definitely for larger issues. Pay to Play is frowned upon, and it is beginning to look like that is how they became fabulously wealthy after "being broke" in Arkansas.

Follow the money, as they say. The emails, as they re-create the "wiped ones", will tell the story.

I don't like her, but I think she got in over her/their heads and the money went to their heads. They have gotten away with so much over the years, why not this time. I have seen photos of the five mansions they own. Pretty heady, I'd say.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
27. Burying your head in the sand and pretending that Clinton can ever with the GE....
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:47 AM
May 2016

it ain't going to happen. Unless Trump hands it to her, which I have always maintained is the reason he ran anyway.

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