If the Left Won’t Support Hillary, Why Isn’t That Hillary’s Fault?

[chwaliszewski]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russ-belville/if-the-left-wont-support-_b_9370086.html



An opinion piece from back on March 02 but still a good read.

[Arkansas Granny]

1. It appears that the left is supporting Hillary just fine, since she leads

with popular vote, pledged delegates and super delegates. Most polls show her leading Trump with an expected bounce after she secures the nomination.

What you consider a good read sounds more like sour grapes to me.

[skylucy]

3. Yes..Hillary IS most certainly winning "the left"!

[Ed Suspicious]

4. Maybe you don't really understand what 'the left' means?

[CorporatistNation]

5. HOW? Like This?

e.g., MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[beachbum bob]

6. the left will support hilalry just fine and why she is our nominee

the extreme leftist...they have a choice....a trump america or not a trump america....and thats not a hillary problem

[Fawke Em]

17. That's absolutely her problem.

Why do you think so many people have left the Democratic Party in the past four years? Who do you think has left? Not to issue a pun, but it's the left who has left.

[oberliner]

7. The Left is supporting Hillary

So the premise of the argument is flawed.

[chwaliszewski]

8. Well, then...

You have nothing to worry about. Hillary has got this. Trump doesn't stand a chance. Oh, look...a goldfish.

[oberliner]

9. There is plenty to worry about

Trump is a candidate like no other. And the Republicans hate Hillary with a white hot passion. We are going to need to work our tails off to make sure turnout is high, especially among minorities. That's the key to defeating Trump, in my view.

Edit to add: As Bernie often says, when turnout is high, Republicans lose.

[Orsino]

21. To a great degree. n/t

[highprincipleswork]

10. The Democratic Party doesn't even know what "Left" is anymore.

[seabeyond]

11. The strong majority does. Hence, her win.

[Tarc]

12. The left does support Hillary. The extreme, fringe left does not, and that is ok.

[Fawke Em]

18. That "extreme" happens to be most of America.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/5-radical-bernie-sanders-ideas-many-americans-strongly-support

http://reverbpress.com/politics/datalog/americans-agree-bernie-sanders/

[Tarc]

19. Post all the cherry-picked polls you like, but the BoBs are a statistical irrelevance

[ProgressiveEconomist]

13. Infiltration. Many "on the left"

infiltrated the Democratic Primary with no intention of ever supporting any member of the "democratic establishment", ie, anyone but Bernie. Sanders realized this; hence his call for "opening up" primaries to those who would destroy the party from within.

[lumberjack_jeff]

14. Because entitlement.

This whole "get in line" frame is fundamentally based on our obligation to support her.

I don't feel that obligation.

[kiva]

15. Looking at the replies in this thread is a good start.

Complete avoidance of the issue about why the left isn't supporting Hillary - instead a happy face "No, the left supports her...really, they do! Oh, and even though we know the left loves her and will vote for her without a threat, Trump."

[Fawke Em]

20. Don't forget the name-calling if we don't support her.

"Childish"

"Insane"

"Trump-lover"

"Right-wing"


I'm none of the above. I'm not taking my ball and going home. I'm just not giving it the Hillary to play with. My vote is my own. I'll give it to someone I think deserves it. I've voted for the Democratic nominee every four years for 28 years, but if Clinton is the nominee, then my line in the sand is drawn: that is just too far right for me. I don't vote for Republicans because they are ruled by corporate-owned neocon war hawks. Why would I vote for a "Democrat" who's the same?

[Fawke Em]

16. It is her fault. And the Party's.

The Party always assumed we'd have no where else to go - and we don't, technically, so this is going to amount to tough love. At some point, you have to stop enabling the continued move to the right by discontinuing your vote for them.

I hate Trump. I think he's a buffoon. But I can no longer vote for a party that puts up a candidate who might as well be a Nixonian Republican. It's just no longer representing me.

Honestly, I think Congress will stymie Trump and he might even help usher in some FDR Democrats in the mid-terms. But Hillary would have the support of the Third Way Dems and the Republicans to go to war and to cut Social Security, resulting in more devastation to the Middle Class.