Democratic Underground was founded after the stolen election in 2000

[J_J_]

Do Hillary supporters realize that election fraud has taken place in this country?

Either Hillary supporters were not Democrats in 2000 and 2004, or they were not paying attention?

Or is it that the hired posters are from other countries and do not really understand what has been going on in our elections?

[lumberjack_jeff]

1. Elections are stolen for economic reasons, not ideological.

TPTB are fine with democrats or republicans, provided the handle on the money faucet isn't tampered with.

[reddread]

12. they arent really stolen so much as they are

owned.

[tonyt53]

2. Uh, "Hillary supporters" have more years involved with elections that just the one in 2000.

Gore blew it on multiple levels. First, he disavowed everything accomplished under Bill Clinton and avoided any mention of his name during the elections. THAT was his biggest mistake. #2 was his not asking for an entire state recount of FL. The SCOTUS denied his recount of only selected counties, but would have allowed a statewide recount. Us "Hillary supporters" have always been Democrats and always will be. We don't live and die by conspiracy theories.

[Scootaloo]

4. And yet, it was still election fraud that cost him the election

[SFnomad]

18. Election fraud and Ralph Nader n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. I thnk the USSC and the 300,000 conservadems

Who voted for bush in Florida have a lot more to do. Nader is just your convenient excuse. For the record, I expect conservadems to vote for trump in large numbers so who will you blame?

[SFnomad]

36. I don't believe your premise ... so I have no answer for you

I agree about SCOTUS , but I've never heard your 300K figure before, ever.

Nader pulled more people from Gore than he did Bush and without Nader in Florida, Harris and SCOTUS wouldn't have been able to have stolen the election.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. But my premise has evidence

And it was those same conservadems who also voted for Reagan and senior. It is a real pattern.



So you will blame, as usual, the party left. Well, you hand the WH to a fascist, I will blame you and your fairly conservative right wing party. The fact that it is not conservative enough for conservadems though, is telling.

[SFnomad]

38. I have NEVER seen anyone say 300K conservadems voted for Dubya

your sayso isn't enough to convince me.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. It is not my job to convince you

I could tell you the sun is out and we have May haze and you will not believe it. But I will blame you and your party for handing the WH to a fascist. I am just getting ahead of you blaming everybody but yourselves. And this time, it is not a normal election

So there you have it. I will hold you personally responsible. Is that clear now?

[SFnomad]

42. You still have provided NO EVIDENCE of your claim for 300K conservadems voting for Dubya

My believe is that the evidence doesn't exist.

[Eko]

48. Well,

I guess we have to share being personally responsible together. I hope you like popcorn and sweet tea.

[SFnomad]

49. Bless your heart, how'd you know I like sweet tea?

Ok, well, you provided a claim that wasn't generally out there as far as I know and you're not backing it up ... so, that's that. I stand by my comment, I don't believe your premise. Buh-bye.

[Eko]

50. Uh,

I didn't make any claim. Nadin had previously told me that I was personally responsible, just was welcoming you to the team of "nadin is now holding us both personally responsible" and offering tea and popcorn.

[SFnomad]

54. Ooops ... sorry about that. I though your reply seemed a bit strange. I didn't notice the name

change.

[Eko]

58. No problem,

Ive done the same thing sometimes. What should we tackle next with our newfound powers? I vote for ending hunger, should be no problem for such as us who weld such godlike powers.

[SFnomad]

61. I don't know ... ending hunger, world peace ... that's so Miss America-ish

How about everybody can get off an hour early Friday and first round is free!!!!

[Eko]

64. Bam!!!!

Lets do it!!.

[Eko]

44. I thought you were holding me

personally responsible, now you take away my greatest achievement and life and give it to someone else? AGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. You too

[Eko]

47. You took away my glory and fame.

Now I have to share it with another, are there others you haven't told me about?

[QC]

43. That's from the exit polling data, which found that about 12%

of Florida Democrats voted for Bush.

It's perfectly plausible. Ever been to Florida? A lot of Democrats here are essentially Republicans, kinda like many recent arrivals here at DU.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Exactly. I just dn't bother

I can provide all proof, they will not believe it. It is cognitive dissonance

[Rex]

105. Waste of time.

Those here that avoid facts, I avoid. I've learned over the years that they are here to push a certain falsehood.

[Rex]

104. Waste of time by now. The Nader meme is what authoritarians want the history books to remember.

NOT that 250,000 Dems voted for Bush...I don't even talk to people that push the Nader narrative, they obviously have an agenda.

[QC]

106. True. It won't do to acknowledge that conservadems have fucked us all over

time after time.

Not supposed to talk about that.

[Rex]

107. Bingo.

We must talk about other things, never that or the BFEE.

[WhiteTara]

73. and SCOTUS

[Scootaloo]

87. Nope. Not Ralph Nader

Gore won the most votes. That's no longer in dispute. Election fraud by the Republican party and a perfidous supreme cout handed Florida to the Republican who did not garner the most votes.

"Ralph Nader" is what right-winger teabagger semicrats shout to try to blame the left for what their fellow right-wingers did. Nothing else.

[SFnomad]

89. If Nader hadn't siphoned votes away from Gore, the Republicans wouldn't have been able to get away

with their election fraud ... Gore would have won by too many.

[Scootaloo]

90. Except he didn't siphon votes away from Gore

This idea of your hinges on the assumption that all of Nader's voters would have gone to Gore if only Nader weren't in the race. Couple problems with that.

Primary problem was that Nader's voters were Nader voters from start to finish. His polling fluctuated very little relative to Gore or Bush. When Gore spiked after the convention, Bush dropped. Nader's numbers didn't move. When Bush spiked in October, Gore dropped, and Nader's numbers didn't move.

Know who the bulk of Nader supporters voted for in 1996? "Clinton!" you jump up to say but... Nope. Perot. Remember him, little tiny Texan with big ears?

Moreover, Nader's numbers in Florida 2000 are not divergent from the sorts of numbers garnered by third-party candidates before and after him. The only difference is that he condensed those numbers around himself, where they're usually spread around a cloud of candidates.

Basically put, Nader did not "siphon" votes from anyone, the bulk of his support came from people who regularly and consistently spurn both parties, and his big contribution to Florida 2000 was narrowing the third-party field. He caught the tailwinds of an active third party movement Perot got started in 92 and 96, and nothing more.

If you really, really, truly, deeply want to blame someone besides Republicans for Republicans committing election fraud, then you need to point your finger at Democrats. Whether the 300,000 Florida ship-jumpers who voted Republican (20% nationwide), or Gore with his poor campaigning and refusal to contest Florida isn't really of import. Democrats have more impact on the results that Democratic candidates get than third-party also-rans. If you can't fucking accept that the Republicans cheated, then accept that the Democrats ran poorly.

[SFnomad]

92. I never said that all of Nader's voters would have gone to Gore .. but nice strawman

To believe that all of Nader's voters would not have voted is arrogant. Some would have gone to Gore, others would have gone to Bush and others wouldn't have voted at all ... the polling that was done showed that the net gain by Gore would have been enough that Harris and Jeb wouldn't have been able to steal it. Gore's lead would have been enough.

[Scootaloo]

93. I never said you SAID it. But it's what your argument relies on nontheless

You're arguing that voters that "should have" gone for Gore went for Nader instead, and that had Nader not been there, those voters would have gone to Gore. That is exactly your "siphoning" argument.

As I have showed you, Nader's voters were not "siphoned" from Gore. They were people who were already going to vote outside the two major parties.. Take Nader out and they would have gone for Buchanan. Or Brown. Or Hagelin. Or Moorehead. Or Phillips. Or McReynolds. Or Harris. Or maybe they would have written in "Daffy Duck."

These were not "Gore Voters" behind Nader, SFnomad. They were Nader voters. Nader did not "siphon" off of Gore, he consolidated third-party and independent voters who were going to vote against Democrats and Republicans anyway. if you're going to bitch about them not voting for Gore, then you might as well bitch about Republicans not voting for Gore as well. It makes as much sense.

Speaking of Republicans, the only candidate who siphoned of of Gore was George Walker Bush, as myself and a few other posters have pointed out to you.

[SFnomad]

94. It's clear you're not reading what I'm saying ... so there is little point in having a conversation

with you.

There were polls done and some Nader voters would have voted for Gore if Nader was not on the ballot ... some would have voted for Bush ... some would not have voted at all. Gore would have gotten a net gain. Harris and Jeb would not have been able to steal the election like they did.

[merrily]

52. Congrats on using a CIA weaponized term.

[okieinpain]

71. +1 n/t.

[Dont call me Shirley]

76. Gore WON the 2000 election. The supreme court jesters took it away from Gore gave it to Bush!

[Buzz cook]

80. Well not quite

First ore ran a campaign good enough to win, just not good enough to not be stolen.

It is a media talking point that Gore disavowed Clinton and as such it was another media lie. Gore was pilloried in the media for not disavowing Clinton enough and for disavowing Clinton too much.

At the time of the recount Gore did npt have standing to recount the entire state. It wasn't until the Florida Supreme Court decided on a recount that a full state recount became a possibility.

The Supreme Court stopped all recounts not just Gores.

Much of what we on the left have internalized about election 2000 is wrong.

I'd suggest reading the Dailyhowler
http://howhegotthere.blogspot.com/

[Tarc]

3. Can you provide a citation to the Sanders legal team challenging a state's results?

Because of this alleged widespread fraud?

I'll wait.

[J_J_]

5. I warned everyone here that Sanders was not going to fight election fraud

He was at the 2004 hearing on the stolen election in Ohio and told everyone to let it go that "Bush won"

I knew this was going to happen but everyone just got pissed off when I mentioned it so I let it go.

[Tarc]

6. So that would be a...no. Ok.

I believe if sound evidence was placed before Sanders' legal, he would sic them on that state in a heartbeat. It would seem that the "evidence" gathered by random Sandersfan youtubers and such was no doubt looked at, but likely dismissed as non-credible.

[J_J_]

10. Perhaps Sanders isn't always right and doesn't know everything

You people seem to think that Bernie supporters will just follow leaders as if we have no minds of our own.

WE are different than authority minded Hillary supporters...sorry....

[Tarc]

25. I think people with legal expertise are more qualified to judge such matters

as opposed to random-dude-on-twitter/DU/blog, is the point.

[GulfCoast66]

91. No one disputes

You are different from Hillary's supporters. The first on a very long list...your candidate has lost the Democratic nomination.

If you want more, let me know.

[Sheepshank]

21. Bernie has filed multiple suits during this campaign, and threatened several more.

your "prediction" that he won't fight election fraud is absurd.....and merely a preemptive excuse for losing.

[J_J_]

27. too little too late

you are happy with how little he has done?

[Sheepshank]

35. just pointing out the absurdity of your OP and your follow up posts

how I feel about his law suits or lack thereof is not at issue.

Dip Dodge Dive Divert....it's what BS supporters do...and you just did it, but making a ridiculous assumption as a reply.

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. The only fraud in this election are the wild promises sanders has made to his followers.

[valerief]

53. Ha! Wild? Like the kind of things they already do for their citizens in first world countries.

Watch Where to Invade Next.

[Dont call me Shirley]

78. Which were ideas born in America to begin with! I'll post another round of....

The Second Bill of Rights, Franklin D Roosevelt

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the Nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident and unemployment;

The right to a good education.

PS, valerief....Where To Invade Next is a must see! Thanks for posting...

[gollygee]

8. Back then

The talk was in three areas:

Voter disenfranchisement, and largely of people of color, which is still happening, and maybe even more since the voting rights act has been gutted.

A relationship between Diebold and the Republican leadership.

A close vote count in Florida, recounts, and the election finally being decided by the SCOTUS.

I don't think voter disenfranchisement affects Bernie more than Hillary. I don't think Hillary has a relationship with Diebold the way the Republicans did, and I don't think the SCOTUS is going to decide this one.

I definitely think there can be voter fraud, though I felt so strongly about it that I didn't think President Obama could win, and the fact that he did assuaged my fears to some extent.

I don't think Hillary is involved in any voter fraud.

[Trust Buster]

9. Hired posters ? If we referred to Sanders supporters as "hired posters", our posts would be

hidden in the blink of an eye. Why do some cling to hypocrisy so tightly ?

[NorthCarolina]

13. It is a well known fact that David Brock has hired bulleting board mercenaries

to taunt and disillusion Bernie supporters. Wouldn't it be a bit naive to assume than none would dare come to DU. If you look around there are a myriad of posters on this site with accounts sometimes several years old, but showing 99% of their posts in just the last few weeks. Not an insignificant number exhibit this same trait, and they all shill for Hillary. Coincidence? I doubt it.

[oberliner]

56. This is a lie

There is no evidence of this.

[J_J_]

14. Hillary camp admitted to hiring posters

And it is apparent that they were outsourced, choosing quantity over quality.

[oberliner]

57. No they haven't.

That is a lie.

[merrily]

55. Brock issued a press release about hiring online trolls. It's no secret.

He didn't issue one about hiring them before this month but the earlier ones are no secret, either. They're kind of obvious.

[oberliner]

59. No he didn't

His press release said that Clinton supporters would start pushing back against online harassment.

[merrily]

63. I don't know if online harassment was the term used, but did you expect him to phrase

it as it is? All the OP's we've been seeing of late are not "pushing back" on anything. They're attacking.

Online harassment? Yet another victim card.

[oberliner]

66. Here's the press release

Anonymous online attacks, from both sides of the political spectrum, have sought to spread lies and misleading narratives about Secretary Hillary Clinton. Hillary’s supporters are more enthusiastic than Sen. Bernie Sanders’ supporters, yet oftentimes are discouraged from engaging online and are “often afraid to voice their thoughts” because of the fear of online harassment. Many of Hillary Clinton’s female supporters in particular have been subject to intense cyber-bullying and sexist attacks from swarms of anonymous attackers.

Among the many Hillary Clinton supporters attacked online, superdelegates have been subject to vicious attacks for supporting her. Even the director of MoveOn, which has endorsed Sen. Sanders, denounced this harassment.

In response to these attacks on supporters and superdelegates, Correct The Record is launching the Barrier Breakers 2016 digital task force. While Hillary Clinton fights to break down barriers and bring America together, the Barrier Breakers 2016 digital task force will serve as a resource for supporters looking for positive content and push-back to share with their online progressive communities, as well as thanking prominent supporters and committed superdelegates on social media.

http://correctrecord.org/barrier-breakers-2016-a-project-of-correct-the-record/

The above is an excerpt, full press release at link.

[merrily]

68. Again, how did you expect him to phrase it? Who should I believe, Brock, or my own lying eyes?

He who has eyes to see, let him see.

[oberliner]

69. Do you have evidence that there are people posting on DU who are paid by Brock to do so?

If you do, I would definitely be open to hearing about it and adjusting my opinion accordingly.

[merrily]

72. As we ALL know, this kind of thing, by its nature, is incapable of any evidence

other than circumstantial, but the circumstantial evidence is there for anyone who wants to see it.

A whole bunch of people join, return or activate long inactive accounts and start attacking Bernie and his supporters like there's no tomorrow after the Brock announcement, and that's just coincidence?

Are you suggesting they are NOT at DU, the largest Democratic site on the net? Come on, now, oberliner.

[oberliner]

77. OK

I honestly haven't studied the logistics of who is joining, returning, activating accounts at DU to really be able to provide any solid insights on that front.

My belief is that the people who post here are doing so expressing their own actual points of view.

[merrily]

79. Because no one would hire posters for the largest Democratic site on the net?

Someone who worked for the DNC for years told me the DNC pays for posters and so does every politician. And we know from news stories that government has people posting. And that is aside from the million dollars' worth Brock recently owned up to.

I can think of no reason why DU would be singled out as a "no paid poster" site. To the contrary, I think there is every reason to assume they are here.

[oberliner]

82. They mention Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and Instagram

It seems like those sites are in another league from DU.

[merrily]

83. Twitter, facebook and instagram, yes. But, I don't

know about the relevant parts of reddit.

[oberliner]

84. You might be right about all this

I could be completely naive about the whole thing. I don't know.

[merrily]

85. Something else. When I was new here, I did not jump immediately into posting

any Ops, let alone about 20 provocative Op's a day.

My memory could be glossing over things, but I think I posted mostly LOL at intentional humor by posters and +1. The new crop jumped into one hostile OP after another and started racking up hides PDQ as well.

I just don't see one reason the largest Democratic forum on the internet would be the one place free of paid posters, Democratic and Republican. However, the Republican trolls tend to get caught faster, though some manage to stay under the radar.

People say they think those criticizing Hillary and/or Obama from the left are the same as Republicans. Those of us on the left don't see much difference among those espousing rightist policies, no matter which letter they put after their names. One side judges based on who gets criticized, regardless of what the criticism is, the other side judges based on policies.

[merrily]

65. .

http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html

[oberliner]

67. US Uncut is an anti-Hillary site (to put it mildly)

If you want to read the actual press release, I've posted it in reply above.

The LA Times article confirms that the initiative is in response to attacks from anti-Hillary folks.

[merrily]

70. Point of that post is, I didn't invent the term "online trolls" for the Brock hires.

From the LA Times link: "In effect, the effort aims to spend a large sum of money to increase the amount of trolling that already exists online."

[onehandle]

11. Another 'Hillary Supporters are either Dumb, Crooked, or Trolls' thread.

Enjoy the last two weeks of this shit here.

The end is nigh.

[Trust Buster]

16. Yes, but they claim they are not intolerant bullies. What's worse, their next thread will probably

be one of those "So what are Hillary supporters going to do to woo Sanders supporters ?" Needless to say, these people have issues.

[Renew Deal]

15. Why are elections only stolen when Bernie loses?

[JoePhilly]

17. Bernie lost the election. It was not stolen from him.

[Bluenorthwest]

30. And yet it was stolen from Al Gore, who won the nomination. This means that election security

should matter to anyone who wants the nominated Democrat to win. In the past our nominee has been fucked over and apathy and lack of Party organization around the vote itself contributed to that.

The nomination process is just the preface. The GE is the real deal. We've been cheated in the GE in the past and we should not be content to allow that again.

Unless of course your theory is that Trump would never cheat.....then it's all good. No need to look at the process at all. We can just trust. Like we did with George W Bush. That worked out great after all.....

[JoePhilly]

39. Election security matters to every Hillary supporter.

OPs suggesting otherwise, like this one, are ridiculous nonsense.

[wyldwolf]

19. you're knowledge on the topic is quite limited.

[geek tragedy]

20. 14 more days of this nonsense. Sanders LOST fair and square nt

[bobthedrummer]

22. I call it what it was-a coup. I''m one of the real DU reality-based community that loves the truth.

[Doctor_J]

23. The Clinton supporters are on average pretty conservative and authoritarian

This helps to explain why they feel that blood sucking insurance companies have to take billions of our healthcare dollars per year, and why they are OK with our involvement in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Honduras. So I'm not sure that election theft is a big deal to them compared to, say, Bernie's conscientious objection to the Viet nam war. Their vantage point on what is important is different than the other half of du.

[firebrand80]

24. Internet conspiracy theories =/= election fraud nt

[merrily]

60. Another poster using a CIA weaponized term.

[felix_numinous]

86. Unlike the sanctioned 'RW conspiracy theory'

that is the core principle of HRC's defense. That is completely real.

[geek tragedy]

98. Confirmation bias is a real thing nt

[bkkyosemite]

26. They do not want to realize it..."it's a conspiracy"

[Major Nikon]

28. Results...

On Tue May 31, 2016, 11:21 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Democratic Underground was founded after the stolen election in 2000
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512093446

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

There is no evidence of election fraud by the Clinton campaign this cycle. This post is intentionally disruptive.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue May 31, 2016, 11:27 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The "offending" post does not accuse any particular party of election fraud. I think it's silly to hide a post because some people might infer things not clearly implied.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Inflamatory post making false claims about our nominee should not be allowed.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Although I think the intention here is to disrupt, this one just doesn't rise to the level of hide-worthy.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "no evidence" does not mean we hide this. Sorry.

[MadDAsHell]

29. This works off the assumption that the Admins have any intent of today's DU being the DU of 2000.

I don't think that's the case. I think the anger from the stolen 2000 election was used to build a user base, but I think it's fairly clear from the direction DU went once there was a (D) in the White House that most progressive issues aren't actually relevant or important to the Admins or a majority of the users.

[geek tragedy]

32. No, no one who lives in the reality-based community thinks there's been massive and systemic

fraud perpetrated by Clinton in order to steal the primary.

It's nonsense.

[Dem2]

75. "most progressive issues aren't actually relevant or important to the Admins"

Looks like that was pulled directly from your nether regions.

[MyNameGoesHere]

33. Damn, another boo-hoo Sanders is losing post. Eom

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. 2000 told me voting was a waste of time

My vote really does not count. But I grew up in Mexico. We still pretended to vote. And by the way, from talking to many activists locally, a few election integrity advocates, they say the same thing

We need overwhelming numbers to overcome the systemic fraud. So on June 7 I will waste an hou if my time pretending to vote. Hopefully we will overcome the torta effect on Prop I.

[themaguffin]

41. oh bless your heart

[GoCubsGo]

81. I think that is the only sensible response to this post.

[valerief]

51. Likely the latter. Everything is offshored. nt

[Carolina]

62. I joined in 2001

after the Supreme Court's December decision led to coup 2000!

Yet now I do not recognize this place. How so many can support someone who supported Bush's IWR, who promoted disastrous regime change in Honduras/Libya/Syria, who's an MIC corporatist manipulating power for money (arms deals as SoS led to Clinton Foundation donations), who's owned and beholden to Goldman-Sachs, Big Pharma, the blood-sucking Health Insurance behemoths, and the the earth destroying fossil fuel and fracking industries, who lies like Bush... is beyond me

[Hydra]

100. The Bushes bought our party

Scary, isn't it?

[Dem2]

74. Here we go with the condescension and contempt again

I guess you're just trying to start fights

[Turin_C3PO]

88. Election fraud has happened.

And it's almost always perpetrated by the Republicans. Hillary Clinton's campaign has not engaged in systemic fraud. One of the examples (Arizona) is a rethug state so any irregularities there are put to disenfranchise Democrats, regardless if they're a Sanders or Clinton supporter.

[tandem5]

95. Please don't make light of the 2000 election. I mean that sincerely.

[AtomicKitten]

96. Election fraud. Now brought to you by Democrats.

She ran against Obama like a Republican, and is doing it again. Voter suppression is perpetrated by those that can't win on their ideas and record.

[geek tragedy]

97. 16 more days of this kind of vile smear being directed at Democrats. nt

[AtomicKitten]

99. the truth is tough to hear sometimes

[geek tragedy]

102. The claims that Clinton engaged in election fraud are false and completely

without a shred of evidence. It's a myth told by people unable to accept that people honestly disagree with them, and who refuse to respect the democratic process when they dislike the result.

[AtomicKitten]

109. much has been caught on video

and exit polling

[ladjf]

101. and the DU will become defunct by the end of 2016 if it becomes a heavily censored

discussion board. I believe that Skinner has been running this board long enough to know how to keep it going. (Unless some other entity purchases the board for the sole purpose of destroying it.)

[NanceGreggs]

103. And now Bernie ...

... wants to steal an election by convincing super-delegates to ignore the will of the people and hand him the nomination.

[JTFrog]

108. Yeah, it was also founded to escape the droning right wing propaganda flooding the media.

Yet the Hillary haters keep on pushing shit like Judicial Watch and Breitbart here. Just to bash Democrats.

Love your selective outrage though.

[robbedvoter]

110. Yeah, I was there at the time - see my handle?

Shame on you! It was as ugly as the sea of white faces bused to Oakland, singing "We shall overcame" You are trivializing things you don't even begin understand. Even your candidate conceded lately "it wasn't rigged". But proceed, please! Discredit everything!