2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCBS: Clinton's Full of B.S. Regarding Private Server
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/05/31/clinton-email-inspector-general/Clearly Hillary's been covering up some dirty shit here. Her many repeated lies on her Private Server called out in this lie-by-lie report:
A look at some of Clintons past claims about her unusual email set-up and how they compare with the inspector generals findings:
CLINTON: The system we used was set up for President Clintons office. And it had numerous safeguards. It was on property guarded by the Secret Service. And there were no security breaches. March 2015 press conference.
THE REPORT: Evidence emerged of hacking attempts, though its unclear whether they were successful.
On Jan. 9, 2011, (asterisk)an adviser to former President Bill Clinton notified the State Departments deputy chief of staff for operations that he had to shut down the server because he suspected someone was trying to hack us and while they did not get in i did.,nt (sic) want to let them have the chance to.
Later that day, he sent another note. We were attacked again so I shut (the server) down for a few min.
The following day the deputy chief emailed top Clinton aides and instructed them not to email the secretary anything sensitive.
Also in May 2011, Clinton told aides that someone was hacking into her email, after she received a message with a suspicious link, the new audit report said.
The Associated Press has previously reported that, according to detailed records compiled in 2012, Clintons server was connected to the internet in ways that made it more vulnerable to hackers. It appeared to allow users to connect openly over the internet to control it remotely.
Moreover, its unclear what protection her email system might have achieved from having the Secret Service guard the property. Digital security breaches tend to come from computer networks, not over a fence.
CLINTON: What I did was allowed. It was allowed by the State Department. The State Department has confirmed that. AP interview, September.
THE REPORT: No evidence that Clinton asked for or received approval to conduct official government business on a personal email account run through a private server in her New York home. According to top State Department officials interviewed for the investigation, the departments that oversee security did not and would not approve her use of a personal account because of security concerns.
Clinton has changed her account since the report came out. On Thursday, she told CNN I thought it was allowed. I knew past secretaries of state used personal email.
Colin Powell was the only secretary of state who used personal email for work, but not to the extent she did, and he did not use a private server.
CLINTON: It was fully above board. Everybody in the government with whom I emailed knew that I was using a personal email. AP interview, September.
CLINTON: The people in the government knew that I was using a personal account . the people I was emailing to on the dot gov system certainly knew and they would respond to me on my personal email. NBC News interview, September.
THE REPORT: According to the findings, its unclear how widespread knowledge was about Clintons use of a personal account. Though Clintons use of a private email was discussed with some in her agency, senior department officials who worked for her, including the undersecretary responsible for security, said they were not asked to approve or review the use of her private server.
The officials also said they were unaware of the scope or extent of her email practices, even though Clinton exchanged hundreds of thousands of messages with people in government from her personal account.
CLINTON: In the fall, I think it was October of last year (2014), the State Department sent a letter to previous secretaries of state asking for help with their record-keeping, in part because of the technical problems that they knew they had to deal with. And they asked that we, all of us, go through our e-mails to determine what was work-related and to provide that for them. NBC News, September.
THE REPORT: While its true that the State Department requested records from former secretaries of state in November 2014, the report says the department raised concerns about Clintons compliance with federal record-keeping laws years earlier, and the attention did not appear welcome.
Two employees in the Office of Information Resources Management discussed concerns about her use of a personal email account in separate 2010 meetings. One of the employees stressed in one of the meetings that the information being transmitted needed to be preserved to satisfy federal records laws.
They were instructed by the director of the department never to speak of the Secretarys personal email system again, according to the report.
CLINTON: I think last August I made it clear Im more than ready to talk to anybody anytime. CBS News interview in May.
THE REPORT: Clinton declined through her lawyer to be interviewed for the report. Four other secretaries of state participated: John Kerry, Madeleine Albright, Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell. She now says: everything I had to say was out there.
But she has said she will speak to the FBI as part of a separate criminal investigation into possible security breaches related to her private server.
In October, she testified about the issue before the House committee investigating the 2012 Benghazi attacks.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)Is this who we want for President of the United States?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)What part of "criminal investigation" does she not understand?
I don't think it would serve her campaign well for her to be cuffed and stuffed into a cop car to testify.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)And, you know darn well that won't be allowed to be stated in court.
Faux pas
(14,681 posts)KICK!
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)think
(11,641 posts).
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)PELLEY:You know, in '76, Jimmy Carter famously said, "I will not lie to you."
CLINTON: Well, I have to tell you I have tried in every way I know how literally from my years as a young lawyer all the way through my time as secretary of state to level with the American people.
PELLEY:You talk about leveling with the American people. Have you always told the truth?
CLINTON:I've always tried to. Always. Always.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/campaign-2016-hillary-clinton-ive-always-tried-to-tell-the-truth/
PELLEY:Some people are gonna call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself.
CLINTON:Well, no, I've always tried --
PELLEY:I mean, Jimmy Carter said, "I will never lie to you."
CLINTON:Well, but, you know, you're asking me to say, "Have I ever?" I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will. I'm gonna do the best I can to level with the American people.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)...by invisible sniper fire.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Does she think hackers sneak in through a literal back door?
omg... I don't know what I'm laughing about. Seriously, this woman cannot be president. What is wrong with Democrats who are pushing this arrogant, incompetent liar on us?
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The input output port?
Silly you...those are the finest agents in the service!
cui bono
(19,926 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)with an (apparently) straight face! Stated with a flourish, like it meant something.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)That is sad. As I've said many, many times... DU sure ain't what it used to be.
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ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Unless Clinton had a 'Honey, I Shrunk the Agent' machine to inject them into the server?
cui bono
(19,926 posts).
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)wipe it with a cloth, their fingerprints will show.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)This damn has broken
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)If they want their safe space, they can have it. The level of denial matches a mature scandal thiugh
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)and it's not gonna be stopped.
sorechasm
(631 posts)It's yet another delay tactic, because if there is an indictment after a Democratic Convention that nominates Hillary, options for replacing her are no longer in control of the voters.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)that they will only have half of their own party behind them will grow exponentially.
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leveymg
(36,418 posts)My money is on the moneyed part stays in and consolidates its hold over minority status thst doesn't oppose the next Government. The status quo of a declining rogue empire will be safe for another generation. Mission Accomplished.
I really hope they prove me wrong and remove her at the Convention. We're running out of time for a soft landing.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)us we're "fucking retards".
But I disagree that the empire will be safe for another generation because if they do this maneuver it would be an open invitation for Bernie to run as an independent/third party and I think he would win. He would owe them no loyalty if they took the nom away from him and they would have left so many people out in the cold who would happily follow Bernie to another party.
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catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)Considering the email case this weekend I came to the conclusion that today was critical-if no new stories appeared today, then probably nothing short of an indictment could stop Clinton. After today I believe the onus has shifted and barring a miracle she is watching her last chance slipping away.
randome
(34,845 posts)Therefore, she lied! I mean, that's what Sherlock Holmes would say, right?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...with Reagan and the covert war on Nicaragua, and our Democratic leaders' failure to impeach him for it, because they were making so much money off of Reaganonmics, and, recently, with Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld, and Obama saying, "We need to look forward not backward" on the crimes of the rich and powerful (they teach that at Harvard Law School), and at many points in between, involving many crimes, colossal thefts, "regime changes," murders, wars, torturing prisoners, use of public office to become wealthy beyond the wildest dreams of us peons, tax evasion, war profiteering, selling weapons to scum like the Saudis, government spying, corporate monopolies, corporate pollution and corporate murder of Mother Earth.
Not at all sad. Not at all surprised. What will surprise me, though, is if Clinton doesn't get away with it. That would be interesting. But it has nothing to do with me being sad or happy, or anyone else being sad or happy. It would be surprising to see justice done, and I would wonder what is going on behind the scenes in the luxury island paradise compounds of the behind the scenes players.
We need to put sadness about our democracy, our country and our planet aside, and get very smart and very well-organized in dealing with this Oligarchy. And that is happening.
panader0
(25,816 posts)You mean the internet? That's almost as good as "like with a cloth?".
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Seems to be her first inclination whenever a new scandal comes up.
TimPlo
(443 posts)Her lies or all people on here that still say she did not lie even when place two statements side by side that contradict each other.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)It's dangerous when minds are so willfully closed.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)that she perpetrates. That's why the party is in such trouble.
DebbieCDC
(2,543 posts)In a basement
Guarded by the secret service
Damn, ain't technology great.
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)He was locked in a basement guarded by secret service inventing the internet.
Autumn
(45,109 posts)Wouldn't a person have to be logged in to know if a server was being hacked? You wouldn't know you were being hacked if you were making a sandwich in the kitchen. How would a person know? Was Bill's adviser in charge of monitoring it?
azmom
(5,208 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Camp Weathervane has no idea how the internet works.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)Seriously the SS would have no issue monitoring the Internet
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)allowed in the white house. It is really shameful that the dem establishment is backing her. Those who endorse her should be given the boot.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)When this place stops resembling the Republican convention........ looking forward to Tuesday when HRC puts it out of reach for good and Sanders runs out of STATES, and time is up dude...put down your pencils.