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if Hillary is such a strong candidate.... (Original Post) Exilednight May 2016 OP
Because she (or anyone else) would be stronger without a pesky old guy trying to break up anotherproletariat May 2016 #1
You mean that party that's already broken? kayakjohnny May 2016 #2
you forgot something. Exilednight May 2016 #3
waaa! she has to work for it! waaa! Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #4
She'd win easily if she had no opposition. Marr May 2016 #24
If Sanders is such a strong candidate, why was he unable to beat such a "weak" candidate ? Trust Buster May 2016 #5
Hillary had every possible advantage. Bernie started behind the eight ball Exilednight May 2016 #13
Yes, her best advantage being more voters.....LOL...Stay thirsty my friend...LOL Trust Buster May 2016 #18
I'm a lot stronger than a mosquito. Nye Bevan May 2016 #6
Because Bernie is wasting time and resources metroins May 2016 #7
a leader needs to be able to walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. Exilednight May 2016 #8
That makes no sense metroins May 2016 #9
I'll break it down for you. you're arguing that Hillary can't do two things at once, but that's bull Exilednight May 2016 #11
But expending resources on one front instead of two is always desirable. randome May 2016 #43
Presidents don't get to deal with only one issue in the c0urse of a day. Exilednight May 2016 #44
Bernie is wasting time and resources how? freemtnhermit May 2016 #12
So all of the agonized OPs from Hillary supporters are in the name of efficiency? AgingAmerican May 2016 #15
Ha! kayakjohnny May 2016 #32
Yes, inefficient to win over your own party bigbrother05 May 2016 #34
Bernies IDENTIFYING resources, thanks to him everyone knows the strength and location HereSince1628 May 2016 #45
He's already done that..... metroins May 2016 #46
It's not quite done yet. The primary is doing this at the county level. HereSince1628 May 2016 #47
She's stronger than Bernie, that's all you need to concern yourself with. YouDig May 2016 #10
it's not a level playing field. it's severely tilted towards Hillary. Exilednight May 2016 #14
It's tilted towards Sanders. Without undemocratic caucuses it would be an even bigger margin. YouDig May 2016 #19
riiiiiight, because Sanders had the DNC behind him. Exilednight May 2016 #20
The voters chose Hillary, not the DNC. YouDig May 2016 #21
DWS had no part in scheduling debates on shitty nights that Exilednight May 2016 #22
There were plenty of debates, everybody had a chance to hear Bernie. They just didn't like him. YouDig May 2016 #31
it was the lowest debate ratings since Al Gore ran. Exilednight May 2016 #35
These folks think it was fair because DWS & HRC told them so... Yurovsky May 2016 #41
LOL...n/t asuhornets May 2016 #30
Bernie can stay in. Its a waste of time. But he can stay in. JoePhilly May 2016 #16
Haha! No doubt. Shadowflash May 2016 #17
When there are two strong candidates, neither can easily or quickly seal the deal, Orsino May 2016 #23
Bernie is an insurgent candidate with little infrastructure prior to his first few wins. Exilednight May 2016 #25
Doesn't matter what we call it. Orsino May 2016 #27
they only get to vote after Bernie contests it, unless he decides not to. Exilednight May 2016 #29
This is true. Orsino May 2016 #33
I agree Sanders is a strong candidate...nt asuhornets May 2016 #36
Because he won't stop criticizing her. He has no chance to win. Gomez163 May 2016 #26
that's all Hillary. Exilednight May 2016 #28
I guess Hillary should have avoided creating those negatives to point out Matt_in_STL May 2016 #37
it seems they want us to believe that it's B Ernie's fault she had Exilednight May 2016 #38
Or one of the other 100 things she has done to build her negative persona Matt_in_STL May 2016 #39
it will be more of the same if she's elected and runs into Exilednight May 2016 #40
The truth is, he's acting as a buffer between Hillary and Trump. You should be grateful. Vinca May 2016 #42

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
13. Hillary had every possible advantage. Bernie started behind the eight ball
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:27 PM
May 2016

And still mounted a serious challenge.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
7. Because Bernie is wasting time and resources
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:05 PM
May 2016

California is not in play come November, but Hillary has to spend time there now instead of being in Ohio, FL or other battleground states. She could be recuperating or going on national talk shows or fundraising.

Bernie is wasting May and possibly June, for no reason. Hillary has to campaign against Bernie for optics so Trump doesn't give her a hard time about a loss.

It's just fucking inefficient.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
9. That makes no sense
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

Thought about writing a real reply, but you put zero thought into yours.

Enjoy your day.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
11. I'll break it down for you. you're arguing that Hillary can't do two things at once, but that's bull
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

A real leader can do both. Hillary has every resource any candidate could possibly have, but she's failing to use those resources to their maximum efficiency

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
43. But expending resources on one front instead of two is always desirable.
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

freemtnhermit

(12 posts)
12. Bernie is wasting time and resources how?
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

Seems to me, it's his time since he has been slapped with a media blackout, and as for resources, do you really want to go there???? He can campaign until the cow come home in Ca., with the monies I've sent, and I don't have a problem with that. Remember? Hillary "resources" are the Super Pacs, not Bernie Sanders

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
34. Yes, inefficient to win over your own party
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:55 PM
May 2016

Amazing that the guy who never had a chance is "hurting" the most qualified candidate ever.

If she isn't talking about the issues needed to win in November, then what is she talking about?

The message that won in the South doesn't work in a battleground state?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
45. Bernies IDENTIFYING resources, thanks to him everyone knows the strength and location
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

of the strength of progressive/reform minded democrats.

Of course in addition to what we all know, Sanders knows the names and contact information of millions of donors and volunteers who will work to reform the democratic party to make it more progressive and better tuned to its real and potential base.

Only seeing Sanders run in the most myopic of terms tends to make the big picture unavailable for viewing

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
47. It's not quite done yet. The primary is doing this at the county level.
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

HRC turned to the GE months ago, when she put the primary away in the south, right?

Patience is a virtue that also helps prevent stomach ulcers.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
41. These folks think it was fair because DWS & HRC told them so...
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

they aren't going to bother peeking behind the curtain, they would rather not know. And if she loses to Trump, it will be Bernie's fault. Nothing is EVER the Clinton's fault...

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
17. Haha! No doubt.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

She had better thank her lucky stars that the GOP nominated a boob like trump. He is an ass and has managed to alienate EVERYBODY, yet the best HRC can do, so far, in GE polling, is tie the moron.

Had the GOP nominated anybody with even a LITTLE common sense, she would be toast.

All this and yet it'll be the Sanders supporters fault when she loses the GE? I think it will be the fault of the people who nominated this non-starter candidate.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
23. When there are two strong candidates, neither can easily or quickly seal the deal,
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

We learned this in '08. It's indicative of strength, not weakness.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
27. Doesn't matter what we call it.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

The number of delegates he won guarantees a contested convention.

Not a brokered convention, as only one vote would seem to be needed. But this is a consequence of having two strong candidates.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
33. This is true.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:54 PM
May 2016

If one candidate bails, probably because of some deal, there would be no need for a vote.

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
26. Because he won't stop criticizing her. He has no chance to win.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:46 PM
May 2016

All he is doing is driving up Hillary's negatives.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
37. I guess Hillary should have avoided creating those negatives to point out
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:02 PM
May 2016

They aren't exactly a well kept secret.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
38. it seems they want us to believe that it's B Ernie's fault she had
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:04 PM
May 2016

A private server installed, or that she backed out of a promised debate.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
39. Or one of the other 100 things she has done to build her negative persona
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:05 PM
May 2016

I know people like that. Nothing is ever their fault, it has to be someone else keeping them down.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
42. The truth is, he's acting as a buffer between Hillary and Trump. You should be grateful.
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:16 PM
May 2016

As soon as Trump is let loose on Hillary alone it's going to be a nightmare for Clinton and her supporters.

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