Kerry Clinches Nomination

[brooklynite]

Sen. John Kerry, now with a numerical lock on the Democratic nomination, was to meet former rival Howard Dean Wednesday to plot strategy for the general election campaign against President Bush.

Kerry's victories in four Southern primaries Tuesday gave him enough delegates to claim the Democratic nomination for president at the party's convention in July, according to estimates by the CBS News Election And Survey Unit.

...snip...

At least 2,162 delegates are needed to win the nomination at the convention that begins July 26th, and CBS News estimates indicate that Kerry's new delegate count is 2,174.

That includes 802 super delegates — Democratic officeholders, luminaries and party officials who aren't allocated by primaries or caucuses — who say they back Kerry.

March 10, 2004


The media will be ready next Wednesday...will you?

[tonyt53]

1. You mean southern states and their voters actually do matter?

[lame54]

7. apparently more than California...

The 7th largest economy in the world

[geek tragedy]

14. California will put her over the top in terms of pledged delegates nt

[lame54]

22. but if Bernie dropped out like...

everybody is screaming for him to do then California would not get a true say

every election they are at the back of the line

the south has much say because they vote early

[geek tragedy]

26. Bernie has every right to stay in the race until all of the voting is over.

at the same time, once there is a winner and a loser of the voting after everyone's had their chance, the loser has an obligation to respect the voters' decision

[Exilednight]

28. She will not have enough pledged delegates, she only has enough delegates by including in-ledges.

[geek tragedy]

29. she will easily meet the bar met by every other presumptive nominee when they

were declared the winner.

Outright majority of pledged delegates
Outright majority of super delegates
Outright majority of all delegates

That means she's the winner.

[Ash_F]

2. Dean probably could have beaten Bush

[tonyt53]

3. Not a chance

[Ash_F]

4. Kerry got damn close and he was awful.

[blm]

6. No - he wasn't. And he took on BushInc at its most powerful.

And did so with very little assistance from DNC party infrastructure in some key states where it was powerless. By design.

[lame54]

8. and conceded by 10 pm...

even though hinky shit went down in Ohio

very disappointing

but, he is killing it as SoS

[blm]

11. Wrong - he conceded the next MORNING by 10am. Slowest concession in modern history yet revisionists

on the internet will still claim that he conceded immediately.

Why do you suppose they still do that?

[lame54]

21. you're right...

actually it was 11 am

but as far as the slowest?

Gore went well over a month

must get your info from the internet

[blm]

35. Gore conceded election night - he then UNCONCEDED when the numbers changed.

I am certain of my position because I don't just repeat popular revisionist statements gleaned from internet.

[Ash_F]

13. He lost OHio by 2%, with issues at the polls

If he won Ohio he would have had it.

Maybe we have varying definitions of 'close'.

[oberliner]

10. Why was Kerry awful?

What didn't you like about him?

[Ash_F]

15. Awful at campaigning. Not at being a person

[blm]

17. He won all 3 debates - it was Dem party infrastructure in key states that were awful and

weak and broken.

[Ash_F]

19. I get this is a matter of opinion but he was boring and uninspiring

Campaigned as Bush-lite.

He only did as well as he did because of Bush's unpopularity.

[emulatorloo]

27. One of the most liberal Senators we've ever had

DU constantly shat on liberal Kerry while favoring a good moderate.centrist Democrat. Who DU now constantly shits on.

Kerry's gone on to be a great sec of state and Dean did a hell of a job with the DNC.

[blm]

36. Kerry inspired those who didn't rely on corpmedia to shape their opinions.

If you couldn't get excited based on his accomplishments and what you knew about his integrity, then I feel sorry for you. You couldn't possibly have been engaged in the anti-corruption battles of the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

[blm]

5. Dean had a DNC that secured election process in key states like Ohio before 2004 election?

Pretty sure that Dem party infrastructure in states like Ohio and Florida were completely collapsed in the years before the 2004 election. In fact, it was so obvious to those stuck dealing with the party state by state, that Kerry supported Dean 100% when he became head of DNC and worked to rebuild party infrastructure in those key states that had been kneecapped years earlier.

[morningfog]

9. With no one left in the race. That is the distinction.

[oberliner]

16. Kucinich was still in the race

He stayed in all the way up to the convention (actually a few days prior to the convention).

[morningfog]

18. Fine. No one who could still mathematically secure the nomination.

[oberliner]

20. After next week, Bernie will be in that position

Most likely.

[morningfog]

23. No he won't. He'll be viable until the end.

He'll have enough pledged delegates to reach with support of supers, just Hillary.

[oberliner]

24. How do you figure?

I think Hilary will be too far ahead after next week for Bernie to catch up even without counting the supers.

[morningfog]

30. He's at 1,500 PDs now. 781 PDs left.

If he takes just 40%, that's another 312 for 1,812. He'd need 512 supers to hit 2,383. There are 714 supers total.

I expect he'll take more than 40%. I would expect that not all the supers would support him, even if Hillary dropped out. But, he's still and will remain mathematically viable.

[oberliner]

34. Oh, I see what you are saying

You aren't taking the supers out of the equation, you are presenting a scenario where most of the supers who have said they will vote for Hillary will flip over to Bernie.

[highprincipleswork]

12. No

[AgingAmerican]

25. So you want a repeat of the 2004 election results?

Not surprising...

[Bluenorthwest]

31. And Kerry lost the actual election. Is that a desired outcome?

His campaign went very quiet for a while, then he roused it up and lost to an idiot. Good stuff.

[Tarc]

33. If you can't win the junior varsity event, you don't get a promo

to the varsity.














7.

[blm]

37. His campaign did not - corpmedia circled the wagons around Bush to gain FCC rulings as promised

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to them in a second term for Bush.

Corpmedia dug in against Kerry who the media owners did NOT want in the WH. Revisionism is rampant still when it comes to what REALLY was happening during that election cycle.
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Kerry Seeks to Reverse FCC's "Wrongheaded Vote"

Commission Decision May Violate Laws Protecting Small Businesses; Kerry to File Resolution of Disapproval

Monday, June 2, 2003

WASHINGTON - Senator John Kerry today announced plans to file a "Resolution of Disapproval" as a means to overturn today's decision by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to raise media ownership caps and loosen various media cross-ownership rules.

Kerry will soon introduce the resolution seeking to reverse this action under the Congressional Review Act and Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act on the grounds that the decision may violate the laws intended to protect America's small businesses and allow them an opportunity to compete.

As Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship, Kerry expressed concern that the FCC's decision will hurt localism, reduce diversity, and will allow media monopolies to flourish. This raises significant concerns about the potential negative impacts the decision will have on small businesses and their ability to compete in today's media marketplace.

In a statement released earlier today regarding the FCC's decision, Kerry said:

"Nothing is more important in a democracy than public access to debates and information, which lift up our discourse and give Americans an opportunity to make honest informed choices. Today's wrongheaded vote by the Republican members of the FCC to loosen media ownership rules shows a dangerous indifference to the consolidation of power in the hands of a few large entities rather than promoting diversity and independence at the local level. The FCC should do more than rubber stamp the business plans of narrow economic interests.

"Today's vote is a complete dereliction of duty. The Commissioners are well aware that these rules greatly influence the competitive structure of the industry and protect the public's access to multiple sources of information and media. It is the Commission's responsibility to ensure that the rules serve our national goals of diversity, competition, and localism in media. With today's vote, they shirked that responsibility and have dismissed any serious discussion about the impact of media consolidation on our own democracy."

[AZ Progressive]

32. "Bernie Supporters, will you please damn shut up?"

"Get behind Hillary, or else!"

[firebrand80]

38. You can't win this argument

Many Bernie supporters have decided that they will essentially put their fingers in there ears and say "la, la, la, I can't hear you, she's not the nominee."

If a person flatly refuses to accept reality, you can't make them.