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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:48 PM Jun 2016

Clinton: US Has ‘Moral Obligation’ To Defend Israel

ying out her foreign policy vision, Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton vowed Thursday that the US would never abandon Israel, arguing that there was a “moral obligation” to support its closest Mideast ally.

“Israel’s security is non-negotiable,” Clinton said in a speech in San Diego, less than a week before Californian Democrats vote on their pick for nominee. “They are our closest ally in the region and we have a moral obligation to defend them,” she said.

Seeking to draw a sharp contrast with Donald Trump, the former secretary of state said the US must also maintain strong partnerships with its allies. The presumptive GOP nominee has raised the prospect of the US leaving NATO and has said allies must contribute more financially to security agreements with the US.

Clinton lambasted Trump’s foreign policy vision as one of war, international turmoil and economic crisis. She contrasted that with what she portrayed as her optimistic, inclusive and diplomatic view of the world, born from her long experience in public life.

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http://www.timesofisrael.com/clinton-us-has-moral-obligation-to-defend-israel/

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Clinton: US Has ‘Moral Obligation’ To Defend Israel (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2016 OP
When their mouths write checks their asses can't cash, we'll be there! Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #1
Meh, at least she's not babbling about Gog and Magog Fumesucker Jun 2016 #2
The US must also maintain strong partnerships with its allies 6chars Jun 2016 #3
What a load of crap. We have no moral obligation to defend any country other than our own and BillZBubb Jun 2016 #4
International Treaties 'bind' the 'exceptional' USA? Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #13
Especially a nation capable of caring for itself larkrake Jun 2016 #17
Israel has the "Moral Obligation" to Stop the Apartheid and to Stop Building Settlements in the West Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #5
Are we not for being allied with Israel anymore, as progressives? auntpurl Jun 2016 #6
I am! grossproffit Jun 2016 #10
Of course. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #14
We are not treaty allies with the Israelis like we are the the NATO nations amandabeech Jun 2016 #15
I'm American, I just live in the UK. auntpurl Jun 2016 #21
add to that Netanyahu has treated Obama with to be polite a fair amount of disrespect azurnoir Jun 2016 #23
why is it a good thing? larkrake Jun 2016 #18
Growing share of liberal Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians than with Israel Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #22
Did I miss the part where we made Israel the 51st state? tabasco Jun 2016 #7
Did she say we have amoral obligation to provided health care for all? ciaobaby Jun 2016 #8
. bunnies Jun 2016 #11
Good! grossproffit Jun 2016 #9
Defend them from what? cliffordu Jun 2016 #12
+1 Tarc Jun 2016 #16
Israel doesn't need our help Robbins Jun 2016 #19
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #20
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
1. When their mouths write checks their asses can't cash, we'll be there!
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

How the hell has it come to this?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. Meh, at least she's not babbling about Gog and Magog
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

Remember that Dubya was a genius of strategery and you'll find America's acceptable level of foreign policy acumen.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
3. The US must also maintain strong partnerships with its allies
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

Oh Noes!!!

Well, she says “Israel’s security is non-negotiable” -- I don't think Bernie has refuted this. Maybe Trump has said he will negotiate anything because he's just such a great negotiator.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
4. What a load of crap. We have no moral obligation to defend any country other than our own and
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

those with whom we have a binding defense treaty.

BTW, I wouldn't be averse to such a treaty with Israel if Israel returned to the pre-1967 borders (with some give and take as agreed with the Palestinians).

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
13. International Treaties 'bind' the 'exceptional' USA?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jun 2016

Only if convenient, surely.

The entire 'Foreign Policy' discourse was all about 'Our National Interest'. No more, no less.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
5. Israel has the "Moral Obligation" to Stop the Apartheid and to Stop Building Settlements in the West
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jun 2016

Bank, East Jerusalem, and in the Golan Heights.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
15. We are not treaty allies with the Israelis like we are the the NATO nations
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jun 2016

like the UK.

Bibi Netanyahu and other right wing Israelis seem to try to get the US to go to war for them and to support them when they do dumb things like their last war against Lebanon, but we are not obligated by treaty to do so. They sometimes brag in public about how they have the US in their pocket. We give them big loans for military equipment every year, but in the past they have been accused of selling our secrets to Russia and China. Our congresspeople literally pledge undying loyalty to Israel, and our congresspeople fall all over themselves when Bibi comes to visit. Bibi also supported Romney in the 2012 election. He was all over TV, but he came right up to the edge of violating our laws, but didn't cross the line, but no one had any doubt about it. Some of us were offended.

You Brits generally don't do things like this, and many of us here appreciate that about you, including this writer. I would rather that our politicians stay out of your business and treat you with the respect that you deserve, just like you do with us.

No one here wants Israel to be overrun by its enemies, but it is not pleasant when some Israelis treat us like their poodles. Perhaps you can understand that.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
21. I'm American, I just live in the UK.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:08 AM
Jun 2016

I've never been an expert on Israel/Palestine, never claimed to be. You've certainly given it more thought than I have. Thanks for the information.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
23. add to that Netanyahu has treated Obama with to be polite a fair amount of disrespect
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:14 AM
Jun 2016

when it comes to any peace with the Palestinians it seems as if he's been digging his heels in and waiting for Obama to leave office because it seems he'll get more of what he wants from either Clinton or Trump

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
7. Did I miss the part where we made Israel the 51st state?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jun 2016

I always thought it would be D.C. or Puerto Rico.

 

ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
8. Did she say we have amoral obligation to provided health care for all?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

do we have a moral obligation to do all we can to save this planet? (i.e. ban all fracking)
do we have a moral obligation to put an end to corporate greed? (and not be part of it)
do we have a moral obligation to end the mass incarceration of black americans?
do we have a moral obligation to end our military overreach.

Need to get clear on where her moral obligation starts and where it stops

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
19. Israel doesn't need our help
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jun 2016

They win every war they have fought.

their have right wing prime minister who wanted romney to win In 2012 and who tried to underminded obama on Iran.and clinton
is suspose to be heir to obama?

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