2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAfter Hillary's speech yesterday, I do not think Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee.
They will find a way at the Republican convention to nominate someone else. They cannot afford to have this boob, this incompetent, this crazy, this dangerous person as their nominee.
Hillary Clinton stripped him down to the bare bones and it was not a pretty sight. The truth in her words rang loud.
Now, after Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell's endorsement, their Party must make a life-or-death decision. Do they try to save the Republican Party or do they try to save the nomination of Donald Trump?
They will find someone else.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)kentuck
(111,104 posts)But sane.
Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)HRC can barely keep even with this moron, so far, in the polls.
She can barely hold her own in a match up with the most disliked man to ever run for President, since they started doing polls. If they actually put up someone with a lick of sense, it won't be good.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)But if you feel you must, then take a look at the latest polling out just a bit ago.
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DetlefK
(16,423 posts)1.
The GOP-establishment has made empty promises and talked their constituents into being pissed at "the government" in general.
Now, after having been disappointed long enough, it was easy enough to talk these voters into being pissed at the GOP-establishment.
These people voted Trump in the primaries because they are angry at the GOP-establishment.
What will these voters do on election-day if the GOP-establishment undemocratically replaces their tells-it-like-it-is guy with another insider?
2.
Who could the GOP possibly field instead of Trump?
He has decisively beaten his opponents and the GOP made sure that anybody who's electable for democratic voters was hounded out of the GOP years ago.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)But, in effect, they would be destroying the village to save it... Trump's supporters will not leave him in this election, no matter who the Repubs put up. It would be the recipe for a disastrous defeat. But, they would save their Party to fight another day, in my opinion.
peace13
(11,076 posts)...anything is possible for the Rethugs.
peace13
(11,076 posts)It was always a huge question as to how and when they would dump Trump. That is why all of the hysteria about focusing on Trump and Dumping Bernie has been so nonsensical. We don't know who the candidate will be. Even if there is a process....you can't trust it.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that would also be quite amusing
DrDan
(20,411 posts)DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)With him in, he scares away any rational Republcans, all women, POC, and LGBT. With him out, they parachute in a candidate no one has voted for and Trump's base goes ballistic.
Either way, garbage fire for the Republicans.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Too many people have voted for him. If they took him out, the Republican party would be a garbage fire. Of course, with him in, it's still a garbage fire, but at least they're retaining their voters to fight another day.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Unlike the Democratic establishment the Republican establishment is actually reading and understanding the mood of the American public.
Trump will be their nominee and if Clinton is ours, he will be the next President.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Not sure what they can do though at this point.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)People have pointed out that, on the Dem side, technically, even "pledged" delegates can vote for anyone they want, though they are fully expected to vote according to their pledge except in some extraordinary situation. I assume it's the same on the other side... would the prospect of Trump qualify as an extraordinary situation? (Similarly the electoral college is techically free to vote for anyone they want, so that's another emergency escape hatch against electing a total loon...)
DCBob
(24,689 posts)kentuck
(111,104 posts)You have consumed more than your fair share of the Republican brainwashing.
Sivart
(325 posts)pretending that Trump is some crazy scary whacked out candidate......
When EVERYONE from the GOP falls into this category.
I disagree that Trump would be any different than any of the other potential GOP candidates.
A republican is a republican. Period.
This should not be taken as me supporting Trump. I absolutely do not. But I also think that we are helping the GOP by pretending that he is a looney fringe candidate......he is not....he is now the leader of their party.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I think they've concluded the least bad option for their party is to let Trump get blown out, salvage downticket races, and institute their own version of superdelegates to prevent this from happening again--and they can point to Trump as the explicit justification
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)than the election will. And the election will be quite catastrophic for them.
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)till the convention.
I don't think they can force him out, and he wouldn't tolerate that - but I wonder if he isn't looking for another door.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)A viable independent that can win some states..Romney, et. al
Leaving the Dem short of 270. R controlled House puts their choice in the WH
And it doesn't have to be someone who is running.
Scary.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)she will be the nominee
and this is not a normal cycle
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)....I keep thinking they will find some type of last minute "Hail Mary" play that will prevent Trump from being the candidate. I havve no clue how they will manage it, but I have faith that the GOP can be quite sneaky.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)blm
(113,065 posts).
MFM008
(19,818 posts)They made this bed. They must lay in it.
Who will beat him that French(who?) guy? Gary Johnson (who?)
They are stuck with agent orange.
They will lose accordingly.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Trump is literally insane