A great blog post shows why so many people feel inspired by Hillary.

[pnwmom]

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It's just a post in the comments, but this writer should write her own blog.

People don't support Hillary in spite of the "toxic stew" of political smears she has endured. Her dogged persistence in the face of the smears shows how strong she is.

http://www.shakesville.com/2016/05/she-shouldnt-have-to-navigate-this.html?m=1

By 

Alpacabag

Some days I cry because I can't take everything the world throws at me. I'm broken in ways that I don't know if they'll ever be mended fully because of all the things the world has thrown at me.

Then I look at Hillary Clinton, and everything the world has thrown at her, and it takes my breath away that she has not only survived it, but become one of the most powerful and admired women in the world. She made herself into one of the most important women in our history by getting through it and using everything she's been through and everything she has made herself to help people, all people, but especially the ones who are most often overlooked. If we are very, very lucky, she will be the next president of the United States of America.

On the days when I feel particularly broken and I'm trying to glue myself back together and I have no idea which piece goes where, the idea that she is likely to be the first woman to be elected to the highest office in my country gives me a reason to reach for the glue again and figure out where this damn piece of me goes, I want to see her take the oath of office and see people salute her and stand up and play "Hail to the Chief" when she walks in the room. I want to see her sign bills and pardon a turkey and meet little girls who can dream about being president someday. I want to see her do all those things, not just for her, not just for all the people she'll help with her actions as president, but for all of the toxic stew she's had to endure. She never should have had to endure it, nor all of us our own toxic stews, but watching her do that would feel like the ultimate validation that some fights are worth fighting.

[MadDAsHell]

1. Replace "woman" with "liberal/progressive" and you'll see why so many feel inspired by Bernie...nt

[pnwmom]

2. Where did I say "woman"? Many PEOPLE feel inspired by Hillary.

She has a very diverse group of strong supporters.

And as to your comparison, yes, Bernie has been inspiring. But too many of his supporters don't realize that Hillary's supporters feel the same way about her -- even if we're not interested in attending noisy, crowded rallies.

ON EDIT: I see now what you were saying. It just didn't make sense because Hillary IS a liberal and a progressive. Bernie is an outlier in the Senate. He doesn't define either "liberal" or "progressive."

[Baobab]

11. What has the world thrown at her? Didnt she grow up rich?

Its my understanding that she grew up in a well to do household and went to Yale.

Not exactly a background of adversity.

Sorry, lots of people went through a lot, she is not one of them.

[pnwmom]

21. No, she didn't grow up "rich," but after her family moved from its first apartment

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to their house in Park Ridge, they were well off. Her father owned a local drapery business. She graduated from public high school and then went on to a woman's college, Wellesley. She was in the first class of women ever admitted to the Yale law school.

It wasn't her childhood that was challenging, it was her adulthood. Especially after she became First Lady and had the gall to say she didn't want to just bake cookies.

The Rethugs were in shock because the "hillbillies" from Arkansas, the "white trailer trash," had just replaced the rightful heir to the Bush dynasty, the first George Bush. So they attacked Hillary and Bill with everything they had. And made up what they didn't.

They attacked Hillary with the Travel Office "scandal," the Christmas card list "scandal," the Rose Hill law firm "scandal," the pork belly "scandal," and the Whitewater "scandal." They put Inspector Javert Starr on a $70 million , multiple year investigation for anything they could pin on either of the Clintons, and the best they could do was accuse Bill of getting blow jobs from a consenting adult. And to buttress their case they brought out Gennifer Flowers (who claimed to have had an affair with him years later) and any other woman they could get to confirm an involvement. (And even prosecuted one woman, Julie Hiatt Steele, who refused to lie for them. They ended up with a hung jury and the sex investigation was finally over.)

As if it wasn't enough to have her marriage and her philandering husband spread all over the news, Hillary got accused of being an ENABLER because she didn't divorce him.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. She was also accused of murdering their good friend Vince Foster, who actually committed suicide, but truth has never gotten in the way of a good story where the Clintons are concerned.

So. She DID go through a LOT, and it was because she wanted to accomplish something in her life. And because the Rethugs considered the Clintons to be trailer trash and interlopers in Washington high society. And many of us who watched her go through those trials with her head up high have nothing but respect for her as a result.

[840high]

76. shhh - your ruining

a fantasy.

[athena]

85. Being rich and going to Yale does not mean one did not suffer.

Suggesting otherwise is incredibly naive and offensive. There is more than one type of suffering. People may be born rich and graduate from Yale, and then end up depressed for decades because of childhood abuse. Rape, incest, sexual abuse, violence, and emotional abuse can exist in rich, middle-class, or poor families.

[seabeyond]

4. Clinton is a strong progressive liberal. Sanders states he is not a liberal.

If you are supporting and praising someone, at least know what he says, firstly.

Second, why dump in this inspiring voice of a woman. There is no need, just a woman expressing what she feels, that hurts no one.

[Baobab]

12. Hillary is not progressive or liberal.

She's a war hawk.

[seabeyond]

13. top 15% most liberal.

[Demsrule86]

6. Bernie is a 74 year old white man

you could possibly understand what it means to me as a woman to have the Democratic nominee be Hillary. And despite all the smears here by BSSERs...she is progressive.

[SheilaT]

29. Oh, yes, a woman.

Support Hillary because she's a woman. Never mind that she's a Hawk. Never mind that she installed an illegal server in her home. Never mind that she has at best a passing acquaintance with truth (under fire in Bosnia? The Reagans having a dialogue on AIDs. Both totally false, but what's a little fiction between friends, right?). Never mind that she waffles and changes positions on everything, depending on what she thinks is the order of the day.

I'm a woman. I'm 67 years old, and I understand all too well that Hillary Clinton would be a total disaster as President.

[BreakfastClub]

33. You're going to be so disappointed. Hillary will be a great president. nt

[SheilaT]

35. And when she continues the endless wars,

when she sadly says that Medicare and Social Security need to be cut because we must pay for those wars before anything else, will you still consider her a great president?

I won't.

[Baobab]

52. She's already given awy the store with trade deals in the 90s, so she cant be

its already carved in stone. It can only get worse or we have to compensate corporations in advance.

thats called "Investor State Dispute Settlement" or "indirect expropriation"

[Demsrule86]

75. She was the first lady not elected...try and inform yourself.

That was Bill Clinton not her...the only trade agreement that came before her in the Senate was Cafta and she voted against it...lies and more lies...June 16th.

[Lord Magus]

62. There is nothing illegal about installing a server in her home.

Go away.

[SheilaT]

66. Going against specific requests of the President

may not be technically illegal, but it should make everyone question her judgement. And her honesty. And her trustworthiness.

[Lord Magus]

67. Let me get this straight, you think President Obama told her not to use the server?

That's a new one.

[SheilaT]

68. He told her he didn't want her to use some advisor

she was utterly determined to use. So she did that behind his back.

She conveniently didn't late the State Department know about her server, even though they specifically did not want her using her Blackberry because it wouldn't be secure enough, and she wanted to use it. Couldn't manage to check emails on a desktop computer, even though everyone else in the country had been doing just that for a decade or more.

So she's technologically stupid, wants everything to revolve around her needs, happy to work with people the President doesn't think should be in the loop, and then lies and lies about practically everything. Not to mention accepting money from various companies and overseas organizations (and governments I think but I'm not entirely certain there) then does them favors. Nothing to see here, right.

This is not a person I will vote for.

[Lord Magus]

69. More bullshit.

She was told that Blumenthal couldn't be hired to as State Department post. Not that she wasn't allowed to communicate with him.

[SheilaT]

70. Not bullshit.

She went completely around the President's wish that he not be involved in State Department business.

Not exactly the behavior of an honest woman.

I was also listening to something today that pointed out (and reminded me) that Hillary had said some time back that she'd be happy to talk to anyone, any time, about her basement server. But when asked to talk about it, she refused. The piece also pointed out that attempts to breach the server had definitely been made, although at this point no one really knows if it was breached, or compromised in any way. Which I suspect means it was, and that information is currently being withheld.

More and more I'm being reminded of the entire Watergate thing. Over time, it became pretty clear that once the administration denied something, you could figure out that it really was true. And so with the email server. I'm guessing the current claim that it was never breached or compromised is wrong. It was. It's just a matter of time before that fully comes out.

[leftofcool]

82. Then don't vote for her and please go away.

[SheilaT]

87. I won't be voting for her.

First off, I'm done with "the lesser of two evils" bullshit, because the lesser is still evil. And secondly, don't even begin to think you can blame me if she loses. It is up to her to win my vote, NOT up to me to knuckle under and vote for the candidate with the D after the name.

And in a couple of years when Hillary has betrayed everything you thought she stood for, when fracking is happening everywhere, when even more jobs are being sent overseas, when more of our young men and women are dying for endless, when Social Security and Medicare are being cut back, but the VA is still underfunded, then I hope you finally understand that she was far from the best possible candidate in 2016.

[840high]

78. He told her - NO SID.

[840high]

77. +100 from this woman.

[Armstead]

74. That's an atrocious headline....Just as bad as saying a "69 year old rich white woman"

[Demsrule86]

7. Why is it people always want to 'replace' woman?

[pnwmom]

9. Great question! Some people can't stand the fact that many women and girls

will be just as excited about having the first woman President as African Americans were when President Obama was elected.

And we find Hillary inspiring, even if the Bernie fans do not.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. Some of use want the most progressive candidate

and vote on more than just gender or race.

[seabeyond]

14. Damn good thing Clinton kicks ass in policy and smarts too, then, right?

[Joe the Revelator]

15. Congratulations...

[seabeyond]

17. ahhhh ya, conversation with you always feels like grade school.

[Joe the Revelator]

19. Whatever you say boss, you're the one who started with the school yard cheerleading

based nowhere near actual reality.

[Scootaloo]

28. She could probably kick Trump's ass in those regards.

It's not a high bar, but I guess it is a bar.

[pnwmom]

22. A wonderful woman as "progressive" as Bernie has already run as a Democrat

and received a tiny fraction of the vote.

Just by being a woman a candidate is already perceived as a threat to the established order. She can't be the furthest left candidate as well. At least, not until women have firmly been established as full participants in the government. That day hasn't arrived yet.

[Scootaloo]

31. Sometimes I can't tell if you believe the stuff you say, or if you're engaging in self-parody

[pnwmom]

34. I can't help it if you're too ignorant to understand me. n/t

[Scootaloo]

48. It's not a question of understanding, just of trying to figure out if you're for real

Text doesn't convey it very well, you know.

[PufPuf23]

43. Hillary Clinton is the candidate of the established order, not Sanders nor Trump.

Hillary Clinton scares me because of her competence.

Yet now it appears if I vote for POTUS it will be Clinton because I have voted for every Democratic candidate for POTUS than McGovern.

I am not a Sanders person per se but a some Democrat other than Hillary Clinton, the same as 2008.

Why? Her statements and actions as Senator, SOS, and POTUS candidate 2008 and 2016 and the attitude of Clinton's strong supporters.

I would never vote for Trump nor GOP but Hillary Clinton as candidate is the best path for Trump as POTUS.

Hillary Clinton is a strong neo-liberal and neo-conservative who is successful because of the divisive tactic of identity politics.

[Baobab]

53. None of the women or girls I know seem to share your enthusiasm.

Shes a mean spirited person pretending to be nice in order to get something.

[pnwmom]

54. Or they're not ALL sharing their feelings with you because

why bother?

But they won't have you looking over their shoulders while they're voting.

[NastyRiffraff]

56. None of the women or girls YOU know?

Who cares? That's like saying climate change doesn't exist because it's cold where I live.

BTW, that's actually a well-known fallacy: Anecdotal Fallacy - using a personal experience or an isolated example instead of sound reasoning or compelling evidence.

[LanternWaste]

65. I imagine all three of them share your unsupported allegations.

I imagine all three of them share your unsupported allegations.

[leftofcool]

83. Well, 80% of the women in this country disagree with you.

[calimary]

71. Maybe because there's always somebody who's gotta pee in the pickle barrel?

[Lucinda]

3. KNR Thank you!

[murielm99]

5. Great post. Thank you.

I hope no one posts childish pouty replies in this thread. It is inspiring.

[SheenaR]

18. Not childish

Realistic. I've campaigned in the trenches against her. The person I've seen is not the same person described here. Not even close

[murielm99]

20. See post 17.

I have campaigned for Hillary. I know who she is. She is a politician, and a smart, skilled, experienced one at that. Bernie has nothing compared to her. HE is the one who is not even close. Three million plus voters know it.

We who support Hillary are not looking for a savior or a saint to follow. We are looking for a human to lead the country. We have found her. I feel sorry for anyone as bitter as you.

[pnwmom]

24. More than 12 million voters, actually -- 3 million more than Bernie.

[Lizzie Poppet]

49. No bitterness whatsoever on my end (can't speak for others), actually.

I disapprove of her for readily verified, objective reasons deriving from her performance in office and her many statements. That would be the case regardless of whether or not Bernie Sanders even existed (although his example of how things can actually be different and better certainly lends a certain vehemence to those objections).

But I'm not a Third Way "pragmatist." I'm a progressive, a socialist. The party leadership isn't ready for that, nor, it seems, is the party-oriented primary electorate, at least in many parts* of the country. If that's how the chips fall, then so be it...but I'm not going to vote for any candidate with so many enormous (and vital) differences to my own positions. Not ever.

* And I don't live in those parts...I'm a Cascadian secessionist, too.

[murielm99]

51. I really don't care about all the labels

you hang around your neck. It makes you no less delusional. Hillary is ahead in the popular vote, and in the delegate count.

Stay home? Welcome in President Trump then.

[Lizzie Poppet]

55. "It makes you no less delusional." Ah, the usual Camp Weathervane reflexive divisiveness.

I pity you.

Oh, and here's free clue: it doesn't matter one iota whether I "stay home" (which I will: Oregon's 100% vote-by-mail). My state's not remotely in play. I've already had the only say I'll have in this election, in our primary. And if you don't live in a swing state, or your primary/caucus hasn't happened yet, so have you... You're welcome.

And speaking of welcomes...welcome to Ignore.

[murielm99]

57. Buh-bye, sweetie.

I have long since lost patience with the likes of you.

[pnwmom]

23. From the other side of the trenches, your view isn't very clear. n/t

[Hortensis]

61. Yes. If I didn't vote goals and principles I would

vote for her just to stand against the nasty crowd that's worked so hard to destroy her. Being on the wrong side of them is honor in itself, even without being on the right side of history.

She's not done everything right, of course, and no doubt owes quite a debt to whatever wrinkles of history left a path to move forward to where she is today, but she kept striving and chose to fight through the vicious trials of political achievement, instead of taking one of the far easier yet very worthwhile private paths she also caused to open to her.

And here she and we all are: on the verge of a history-making victory -- and also on the cusp of the big battle.

[UtahLib]

8. Thank you, wonderful heartfelt post. eom

[SheenaR]

16. This person is an idiot

If they think she gives two craps about their welfare. People rattle on and on about the deification of Bernie yet this shit is just fine.

Nauseating. I'm a woman. She makes me strive every day to put a DIFFERENT woman in the White House.

Ready to leave and join fellow Dems elsewhere at the purge

And if anyone wishes to check my credentials as a Dem try me. I have worked side by side with our party's candidates on the road to the White House.

Hillary inspires the naive voter who desperately wants a woman and thinks the 90's were a really good time.

[anotherproletariat]

26. Really? Instead of taking a job as a high paying attorney out of law school, Hillary worked for the

Children's Defense Fund. And that was just the beginning. Please look at her history. She has done far more for the underserved, undereducated and disadvantaged than you clearly realize.

[pnwmom]

27. Right. As a graduate of the first class of women who ever graduated from Yale Law,

and also the first graduating senior Wellesley ever asked to give a graduation address, Hillary could have gotten a job on the partnership track to a top firm in NY. But she wanted to give her life to public service, and she did.

[SheilaT]

32. Of course, the fact that she in the end totally betrayed

the Children's Defense League hardly figures in your assessment.

You might want to read this:
https://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton_has_ever_done/

or this:
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/how-hillary-clinton-betrayed-the-childrens-defense-fund-for-political-gain

Hillary Clinton is not a person of integrity.

[pnwmom]

37. Your Hillary haters leave out the fact that the CDF HONORED Hillary in 2013,

and that Marian Edelman did a campaign ad voice-over for Hillary's current campaign.

I know you'll keep spreading those hit pieces.

But here's the official press release from the Chlldren's Defense Fund, written in 2013.

http://www.childrensdefense.org/newsroom/cdf-in-the-news/press-releases/2013/honoring-hillary-clinton.html

CHILDREN’S DEFENSE FUND HONORS HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON AT 40TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION

For Immediate Release
September 30, 2013

For More Information Contact:
Raymonde Charles
Press Secretary
202-662-3508 office
[e-mail]

Washington, DC -The Children’s Defense Fund (CDF) celebrated forty years of changing the odds for children and honored Former Secretary of State and CDF alumna Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday, September 30, 2013. Secretary Clinton was recognized for her dedication and contributions to child advocacy.

“CDF is pleased to recognize Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has been a tireless voice for children. She’s brilliant. She cares deeply about children. She perseveres. She’s an incredibly hard worker, and she stays with it. She’s done extraordinarily well in everything she’s ever done. and I’m just so proud of her,” said Marian Wright Edelman, President of the Children’s Defense Fund.

In a video tribute Clinton, said “It’s the mission that CDF has stood for that I’m proud that I was a small part of promoting…We worked hard in the White House. We certainly appreciated the efforts of organizations like CDF kind of, you know, charging ahead.”

Hillary Rodham Clinton was with CDF from the beginning. Rodham joined CDF as a young staff attorney right out of law school and knocked on doors to research and help prepare CDF’s first landmark report, Children Out of School in America – a major catalyst for the enactment of the Education for All Handicapped Children Act, now the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. She became a CDF board member and ultimately board chair until she became First Lady.

President and CEO of the Harlem Children’s Zone, Inc., Geoffrey Canada co-hosted the event with CDF Beat the Odds® scholarship program alumna, Sheehan Whelan. Canada talked about coming up with the idea for the Harlem Children’s Zone, Inc. while at the CDF Haley Farm for a meeting of CDF’s Black Community Crusade for Children (BCCC). Canada was joined on stage by CEO of PolicyLink, Angela Glover Blackwell in speaking about the impact of the Children’s Defense Fund and the BCCC. Both Glover Blackwell and Canada serve on CDF’s Board of Directors.

The Children’s Defense Fund has worked relentlessly over the past forty years to create a level playing field for all children. CDF’s work has helped millions of children escape poverty and receive needed heath care, nutrition, Head Start and Early Head Start, child care, education, special education, family support services, adoption and guardianship assistance, and helped ensure protections for children in the child welfare and juvenile justice systems and protection from gun violence.

“I am proud of the some thirty pieces of legislation on the books in part because of the work of the Children’s Defense Fund. I am also proud of all the budget cuts that did not happen because of our vigilance and coalition work. We have worked hard over the last forty years to help build a national house, where every child is healthy, safe and educated, room by room,” Edelman said.

Speaking at the anniversary celebration were young leaders and alums of CDF’s Freedom Schools®, Beat the Odds® scholarship program, and Young Advocate Leadership Training (YALT®) program who are making a difference in the lives of countless children across our nation. CDF’s on-the-ground education, youth development, training and leadership programs have touched the lives of more than 125,000 children and young adults and helped more than 800 low-income high school students go to college to realize their dreams.

CDF Beat the Odds® scholarship program alumna and event co-host, Sheehan Whelan, whose mother tried to sell her for drugs when she was a baby and later died of a drug overdose, is pursuing a career in international public service. She is interning this fall at the U.S. Department of State, working for the undersecretary of civilian security and democracy.

Performing at the event were twelve-year-old cellist Malik Kofi and his world-renowned mentor, cellist Udi Bar-David, tap sensations the Manzari Brothers,and the Washington Performing Arts Society Children of the Gospel Choir. Singer Annisse Murillo closed the event with “What About the Children.”

- See more at: http://www.childrensdefense.org/newsroom/cdf-in-the-news/press-releases/2013/honoring-hillary-clinton.html#sthash.RawRDEOr.dpuf

[SheilaT]

38. Once again, reality does not matter

in Clinton World.

[pnwmom]

39. The reality is that Marian Edelman and Hillary are on excellent terms

but some Bernie fans have no regard for the truth.

[SheilaT]

40. So glad to hear that.

So why, exactly, do you suppose Marian Wright Edelman says Hillary Clinton betrayed the Children's Defense Fund?

[pnwmom]

44. She didn't. In 2007 she said Hillary "is an old friend." But she hated

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the law that Bill had signed.

And in 2013 she honored Hillary:

“CDF is pleased to recognize Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has been a tireless voice for children. She’s brilliant. She cares deeply about children. She perseveres. She’s an incredibly hard worker, and she stays with it. She’s done extraordinarily well in everything she’s ever done. and I’m just so proud of her,” said Marian Wright Edelman, President of the Children’s Defense Fund.

Friendships are complicated. Marriages are complicated. All human relationships are complicated.

Grown-ups understand that.

[840high]

79. Integrity and Hillary don't fit.

[Live and Learn]

72. +1000 nt

[leftofcool]

84. Here's a tip. Don't vote for her and go away while the rest of us work for her.

[basselope]

25. LMAO!

Funniest thing I have read in a while.

[azurnoir]

30. .......

[BreakfastClub]

36. Well I see the Hillary hate is ongoing here. Too bad. I hope Bernie's supporters

will get over it soon. Trump is an ignoramus and a fool and Hillary is going to take him down. Can't wait! It's going to be a fun year. I relish the thought of a woman beating Dump. He's going to look like an even bigger buffoon when it's all over. Best of all, he has destroyed the GOP. Yay! I hope Bernie's people will join in the fun.

[seekthetruth]

41. Barf.

Watched speech....same empty rah rah bullshit about how great America is when our consumer credit probably is in the trillions of dollars.

We're unhealthy, have a healthcare system that works only if you can pay up.

Been at war for the past 15 goddamn years and nobody cares because it's our way of life now.

The rich have, literally, most of the money.

Businesses construct laws, lobby and contribute to campaigns to buy the politicians off.

America is a great country, but it needs to be able to look at itself and say, yes, this isn't working out.

If either Trump or Hillary wins, the same shit.

[840high]

80. .that^

[ucrdem]

42. And when you get down to it the challenge from Bernie is just another challenge

and another victory

[larkrake]

45. Such pablum

This is Brock inspired. Hill inspires dispair

[pnwmom]

46. Oh yeah, sure. Brock is hanging out in the comments section

of some woman's blog.

[LAS14]

47. Thanks for posting this!!!!

[bvf]

50. So, where's the inspiring blog post

you're talking about?

This one seems to be about animals, cute-kid photo ops, and glue.

[Live and Learn]

73. +10,000 nt

[PowerToThePeople]

58. Another homebrew server?

what is up with HRC fans? Queen's court just following their queen?

[pnwmom]

59. What's up with the misogyny? n/t

[PowerToThePeople]

60. nice try

no dice.

[AgingAmerican]

63. Voting for someone out of fear of idiot Trump is not inspiring

Not one iota

[pnwmom]

64. So? The writer didn't say a word about Trump. n/t

[840high]

81. Absolutely correct.

[azmom]

86. I'm not inspired by Hillary at all. She sold

out like many men have done. She's no better.