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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:38 PM Jun 2016

Bernie and his supporters have to accept it's Hillary or Trump.

You don't like it but that's tough. It's the system we got.

Until you do the work to change it, get together with others and come up with a platform and a political party and put your ideas on the ballot.

It will take a long time and be a very difficult task.

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Bernie and his supporters have to accept it's Hillary or Trump. (Original Post) CK_John Jun 2016 OP
Why haven't you? How could you let the party go to shit? Ed Suspicious Jun 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #2
Hillary. Frankly, if she didn't have a D after her name... RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #3
this 840high Jun 2016 #14
Yeah! A pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-progressive taxation, pro-immigration candidate... brooklynite Jun 2016 #18
Pro-war, pro-fracking, pro-Wall St, anti-Union, anti-single payer... HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #23
This. Right here. This is the problem. They are hearing misleading talking points and anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #34
Funny how she's also had the opposite stance on all of those positions, too. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #35
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #21
Depends on the meaning of "accept." immoderate Jun 2016 #4
Will be realistic ballot for POTUS. CK_John Jun 2016 #6
Just so you know - we've been told this a thousand times on this site alone. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #5
Agreed. June 16th can't arrive fast enough to put an end to this nonsense. LonePirate Jun 2016 #26
You've been told what will happen. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #7
It always boils down to 2 choices, if you can't make decision, quit whining. CK_John Jun 2016 #11
Oh, my decision is well made. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #12
That's exactly what persons have been telling you... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #16
Who's whinning? I thought that was you. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #22
Oh, a lot of use have made a decision. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #27
All hail the Queen! seekthetruth Jun 2016 #8
I won't accept that until the primary is over. smiley Jun 2016 #9
Actually, it's BS that's trying to have a coronation by getting the SDs to go against SFnomad Jun 2016 #13
What the fuck could you possibly know about it? pangaia Jun 2016 #10
then it'll be Trump, because all Clinton has is "we lost because you peasants didn't chant HARD enuf MisterP Jun 2016 #15
Sorry, but that would be incorrect Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #17
No we don't. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #19
"You don't like it but that's tough." LOL. You think we acquiesce like you would. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #20
When has it been different? You have a choice of 2, and rarely a Perot or CK_John Jun 2016 #24
You are correct that the system is corrupt. It gives us a choice between two horrible choices. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #25
There are lots of people on a ballot.... Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #28
6 of one... I'll vote for neither. basselope Jun 2016 #29
I can't figure out who the lesser of two evils is, so I'm done with the lesser of two evils. jfern Jun 2016 #30
June 16 MFM008 Jun 2016 #31
Ok, thanks Dad Depaysement Jun 2016 #32
I'll wait until July 25th, thanks. I don't know what your big rush is. bjo59 Jun 2016 #33
Life is full of imperfect choices. I don't like it. n/t pampango Jun 2016 #36
Predictwise says Sanders has a 5 % chance to get the nomination. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #37
The only reason Trump would win baldguy Jun 2016 #38

Response to CK_John (Original post)

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
3. Hillary. Frankly, if she didn't have a D after her name...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jun 2016

... I'd never even confuse her with a Democrat.

Thanks, but no thanks.

brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
18. Yeah! A pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-progressive taxation, pro-immigration candidate...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jun 2016

...is the mirror image of a Republican.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
23. Pro-war, pro-fracking, pro-Wall St, anti-Union, anti-single payer...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:47 AM
Jun 2016

Yep, appears to be a Republican under the mask.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
34. This. Right here. This is the problem. They are hearing misleading talking points and
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:28 AM
Jun 2016

use them to decide that Hillary is a demon. Only one of these labels is even remotely true, and certainly not to an extreme.

I have gone out of my way to educate myself on Sanders policy positions and main issues. You'd think any educated voter would do the same before choosing a candidate.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
35. Funny how she's also had the opposite stance on all of those positions, too.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:55 AM
Jun 2016

All of them pretty recently too, it's not like "Oh the 70's were weird," it's more like "Oh, Tuesday was a crazy day"

 

ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
5. Just so you know - we've been told this a thousand times on this site alone.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jun 2016

Can you think of something else to lecture us about, tell us what we should and shouldn't do, who we should support and why. I think this has all been covered. It has now become boring, expected, and tedious.

We will get to the end of this with or without this unnecessary drivel - so how about without !!!!!

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
26. Agreed. June 16th can't arrive fast enough to put an end to this nonsense.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jun 2016

There are plenty of sites like FR who welcome people willing to trash the Dem party and its nominee. I suspect many of the people saying those things here will feel right at home at sites like that one.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
7. You've been told what will happen.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jun 2016

If it's not Bernie, then you can bid a fond farewell to a not insignificant block of votes. If you continue to insist on Hillary, then the consequences are on you.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
12. Oh, my decision is well made.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jun 2016

The chances of my voting for Hillary directly coincide with that of observing avian bacon.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
16. That's exactly what persons have been telling you...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:19 AM
Jun 2016

Boy, is this getting old!

Cry me a river, why don't you?

smiley

(1,432 posts)
9. I won't accept that until the primary is over.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jun 2016

Please let what little bit of democracy we have left run it's course before you begin the coronation.

Thank you.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
13. Actually, it's BS that's trying to have a coronation by getting the SDs to go against
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:03 AM
Jun 2016

the Will of the People and just install him as the nominee. Both Secretary Clinton and tRump have worked hard and are getting their nominations the old fashioned way ... by getting the votes of the people.

After Tuesday, it will be time to get behind Secretary Clinton and beat tRump.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
15. then it'll be Trump, because all Clinton has is "we lost because you peasants didn't chant HARD enuf
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:19 AM
Jun 2016
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. "You don't like it but that's tough." LOL. You think we acquiesce like you would.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jun 2016

We don't play that game. We dont have to accept it. Your arrogance is quite silly actually. Hands on your hips demanding we accept your "chosen one". We will fight for the 99% while you grovel before the Wealthy you so revere.

If Hillary Clinton-Sachs can't beat Trump, it's on you for nominating her and thinking you could demand we grovel.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
24. When has it been different? You have a choice of 2, and rarely a Perot or
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jun 2016

Nader to let you waste you vote.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. You are correct that the system is corrupt. It gives us a choice between two horrible choices.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:08 AM
Jun 2016

It's time to bring down the system. If we let Clinton win she will continue the status quo that favors the rich at the expense of the rest of us. It's a slow death that some are advocating.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
28. There are lots of people on a ballot....
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:27 AM
Jun 2016

down ticket progressives, up ticket people who aren't the two you named, write in space. I mean, I'm not advocating any of that but lets not act like Trump or Hillary own any person's vote. Votes are sacred and should be used how a person sees fit. Stop insisting that people sell out.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
37. Predictwise says Sanders has a 5 % chance to get the nomination.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:23 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton supporters need to stop presuming all manner of results.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
38. The only reason Trump would win
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:34 AM
Jun 2016

is if progressive Democrats didn't support the progressive Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton.

People who actively support not voting for Clinton are not progressives, and are not Democrats, and are tacitly supporting the fascist demagogue Trump. Those people can go fuck themselves.

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