2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNC raw data ( final early vote tally )
Last edited Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:28 PM - Edit history (4)
Some terms to understand before you read following data.
Total counties in NC: 100
Total Obama friendly counties: 35 ( Here Pres Obama won in 2008 finally vote tally )
Total R friendly counties: 65
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New Data starts here
Total registered voters in Nov 2012: 6631904
Total registered voters in Nov 2008: 6233330
Total number of votes in Nov 2008 election: 4233088
Voting population: 67.91%
As of Nov 2012
Total registered D's : 2861950 -> Net change from Nov 2008: 11971
Total registered R's : 2047916 -> Net change from Nov 2008: 53422
Total registered I's : 1702972 -> Net change from Nov 2008: 317485
Total new voters: 382878
O vs R in the Pool is 60/40 due to demographics and changes in Obama friendly 35 counties
Total Early Votes in 2012: 2,738,943
Obama Margin in Early Votes extrapolated from 2008 county wins and 2012 polling: 59/41 ( Refer to High Point Univ, PPP polls )
Obama Margin on Election day votes based on 2008 actual results: 39/61
Approx total Obama early Votes: 1615976
Approx total 2012 votes (6631904 x 67.91%): 4503726
Remiain votes on Nov 6th: 1764783
Approx Obama votes on election day (1764783 x 39%): 688265
Total Obama votes on election day: 2304241 ( 51.11 % or win by 52k votes)
You see margin or error is little but we have great ground game and plan is to hit 2% additional D voters...
We will NC by 25-75k votes tomorrow
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2012 Early votes in Obama friendly 35 counties 2091583
2008 Early votes in Obama friendly 35 counties 1994144
2008 total votes in Obama friendly 35 counties 3174651
2008 Obama Early voting advantage 64/36 ( extrapolated based on final win margins )
2008 Obama total voting advantage in 35 friendly counties 60/40 ( based on correct data )
2012 Obama early voting advantage 35 friendly counties 64.266/35.7 ( extrapolated based on 2008 final win margins )
----> Pres Obama running ahead of 2008 totals but this also means many R voters have voted early, Obama is winning on demographics 60/40, which means we are up additional 50k votes here.
2012 Early votes in Republican friendly 65 counties 636741
2008 Early votes in Republican friendly 65 counties 636625
---> Here no early votes change in 65 R friendly counties
2008 Total votes in Republican friendly 65 counties 1058437
Pres Obama finally tally in republican counties 39.5/60.5 ( this is based on final vote tally )
2000 Census population increase 21.4%
Population is divided into 15-25% and the ones where population decreased
Top Obama friendly 35 counties part of 15-25% increase = 18
Total 35 counties where population decreased = 0
Total R counties part of 15-25% increase = 14
Total R counties that lost population = 7
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS OUTPERFORMING 2008 NUMBERS AND WE WILL WIN NC ON TUESDAY.
IT WILL BE CLOSE BUT ULTIMATELY WE WILL BE ON TOP BY 25-75k VOTES
Here is the link to my sheet
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2TJUJ43Q0JKQ2xacVhFbG9idkE
Robb
(39,665 posts)Bravo! Nice work.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)can you add a link to your source?
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)I am sure NC will be VERRRRY VERRRY close, based on early votes we will win by 25-75k votes...
I do not see how Romney wins NC... unless Dems do not turn out on Tuesday.
Based on early votes this does not seem like the case.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)isn't worth much.
You find the worth in the model in the closest elections.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)is even better than polling ( though it does give some projections ). Ofcourse NC is complex and it looks like many R voters are in the line than 2008 but we have 60/40 advantage in demographics which will be about 40k new voters. So if we can come near to 2008 votes or my wish ( Less R voters in top voting counties ); btw counties do not change voting blocks in 4 years. We will win.
Anyhow NC is very very close.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Early voting is usually better but in NC with one stop registering and voting the polls are seriously undermined.
Polling requires the pollster to qualilfy the respondent as non-registered, registered, or likely voter.
In NC there is only those who vote and those that don't during early voting there is no such thing as an unregistered voter.
I do not think that the pollsters took that into account.
I am not sure that you can in NC.
It looks to me that we are going to win by about 45,000 votes.
David Zephyr
(22,785 posts)Registering and delivering those new voters to voting. Wow!
calimary
(81,527 posts)It might be really cool to have our own poll numbers cruncher here in DU! I would love to see you proven correct in your forecast for North Carolina! Glad you're here - we need you! There's an election to win!
Now get to work!
Wednesdays
(17,450 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Then they snort it and post online.... I am amazed how these guys come mainline and Nate picks them up. There is no poll and cooking polth.
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)let me check which one is missing.
are missing one because Obama won 35 counties out of 100. So you are missing one of his counties.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Alamance
Alexander
Alleghany
Anson
Ashe
Avery
Beaufort
Bertie
Bladen
Brunswick
Buncombe
Burke
Cabarrus
Caldwell
Camden
Cartere
Caswell
Catawba
Chatham
Cherokee
Chowan
Clay
Cleveland
Columbus
Craven
Cumberland
Currituck
Dare
Davidson
Davie
Duplin
Durham
Edgecombe
Forsyth
Franklin
Gaston
Gates
Graham
Granville
Greene
Guilford
Halifax
Harnett
Haywood
Henderson
Hertford
Hoke
Hyde
Iredell
Jackson
Johnston
Jones
Lee
Lenoir
Lincoln
Macon
Madison
Martin
McDowell
Mecklenburg
Mitchell
Montgomery
Moore
Nash
New Hanover
Northampton
Onslow
Orange
Pamlico
Pasquotank
Pender
Perquimans
Person
Pitt
Polk
Randolph
Richmond
Robeson
Rockingham
Rowan
Rutherford
Sampson
Scotland
Stanly
Stokes
Surry
Swain
Transylvania
Tyrrell
Union
Vance
Wake
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)I have update the post to 65 R friendly counties
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)n/t
grantcart
(53,061 posts)I learned a long time ago that if its an area you are not familiar with its better to shout up and take notes.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)I will keep that in mind now onwards... My excel sheet is good but to translate i Made an error... I will post my sheet shortly.
ncgrits
(916 posts)We should make you NC Secretary of Explaining Stuff!
Great news. Great explanation of the numbers!
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)I am also working on GA numbers but we will not win this times but 2016 is going to change big time... as 2000 and 2010 census will kick in.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)thanks
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)flowomo
(4,740 posts)just a typo, of course, but you might want to fix it.
"2000 Census population increase 21.4%
Population is divided into 15-25% and the ones where pollution decreased"
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)One extra beer goes long way...
My Champagne is chilling for Tuesday....
flowomo
(4,740 posts)which it certainly deserves.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Thanks to all who spent time and effort creating this site.
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)We will VA as well tomorrow... I am running data for NC, VA, GA and OH
Lex
(34,108 posts)Here is the thing, NC is strange in case of early voting. I think all dem votes are IN and if even if R voters plus demographics come on tuesday, we win, the caveat is we have 100 votes advantage and that will determine final outcome.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Our DEMOCRATIC early voting numbers, today in 2012, are surpassing our 2008 numbers.
Ok, that's huge. 2008 was a juggernaut. No one EVER expected that 2012 numbers would surpass 2008. But they are.
And so far, in early voting Registered Dems are ahead by 20 percent of Registered Republicans.
It's simply stunning. I'm in the swing state of Iowa.
No wonder Axelrod went on Fox News and gloated about Romney not being able to catch up in Ohio.
No wonder Obama is rocking out and dancing and singing on stage--at his campaigns.
They know they've got this.
The numbers are all falling Obama's way--like an avalanche of HELL YES!!!!
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)What I hear from local reps is that CUA is going to vote big time on tuesday, how ever R elections guys is going to disenfranchise votes. We will win....
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Cane4Dems
(305 posts)Thanks for you work! - this made my day...Awesome analysis
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Avon Barksdale
(7 posts)Where are you getting it from?
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)NC early vote data is on the web
Easy access is carolinatransparency.com
2000/2010 census
www.census.gov
Avon Barksdale
(7 posts)Cool.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)zwyziec
(173 posts)To MyNameisKhan:
Very well done and thank you for this very encouraging analysis.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Hopefully NC is turning BLUE
VA is BLUE
OH is BLUE
NV is BLUE
NH is BLUE
We are running GA and it will turn BLUE in 2016....
12AngryBorneoWildmen
(536 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)We will win OH, VA and NC
FL I am not sure, after Rick Scott is running his numbers....He is ACIDIC.
12AngryBorneoWildmen
(536 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)he is so bad that we see RUST when he moves near any of us....
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)Voting One Stop registration. And then GOTV to bring those guys out!! OFA is brilliant!!!
Thanks for putting the numbers together and bringing them here!! I love how surprised everyone is, we North Carolinians have been trying to tell everyone what's what here, I guess they thought we were just trying to fire everyone up!!
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Always truth will prevail!
I see my Pres speaking in CO...
He is a fine MAN.
Blackhatjack
(11,061 posts)We knew it was going to be close and every vote could be critical. As I recall the final count was Obama by 14,000 votes in a state with millions of cast votes.
This time voter protection people will have to be vigilant to ensure that all votes are properly cast and counted, as any variance could change the outcome given how close the voting is expected to be.
I will not be surprised if NC takes several days to determine the eventual winner. We have early voting, history of strong absentee voting (especially Repubs), home to several military bases which will produce votes to be counted days after election day, and lots of precincts that use electronic voting machines that scan paper ballots which have to be calibrated and checked to be sure the totals produced are accurate.
For these and other reasons NC is likely not to be a quick decision. Let's hope Obama does not need us to top 270 electoral votes needed to win. However, if NC becomes the linchpin for the winner, we could hold up declaration of a winner for several days --and those who worked so hard to put Obama over the top in NC will deserve tremendous credit.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Hopefully we have Voter protection team in place as robust as 2008.
NCarolinawoman
(2,825 posts)-LOKI -BAD FOR YA
(308 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Demographics and new registrations.
ffr
(22,674 posts)GOTV!
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Now I'm going to light a candle for NC on my shrine....
good work Khan
David Zephyr
(22,785 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)put into this.