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Bernie Sanders Says He Will Fight Hillary at Contested Democratic Convention in July (Original Post) Bernie93 Jun 2016 OP
The convention won't be contested. TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #1
Undemocratic is announcing you have 400 delegates when not one was cast by a onecaliberal Jun 2016 #5
Undemocratic is trying to switch those same people in order to overturn the popular will. TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #7
She DOESNT have the popular vote. You can say that all you want but it doesn't make onecaliberal Jun 2016 #9
She does have the popular vote Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #10
Do you have any facts to back up your statement? TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #22
Maybe not in your parallel reality, but in this world she has a lot more votes than Sanders. Beacool Jun 2016 #24
She sure does Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #29
THE CONTENTION THAT SOMEHOW SHE "WON" IS LAUGHABLE GIVEN ALL THAT HAS TRANSPIRED CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #6
I think this is the fifth time this video has been posted here. George II Jun 2016 #2
The More It Is The Better To Penetrate The MindBlock Present In Some People! CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #8
The "MindBlock" is present in people who think Bernie CAN contest the convention. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #14
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No one ever watches that crap nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #30
Good. 99Forever Jun 2016 #3
That is where you are wrong Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #11
Wrong. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #15
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The head of the Democratic Party says when it's over. That's Obama. Feathery Scout Jun 2016 #28
That would be a path to destruction for Bernie Renew Deal Jun 2016 #4
He's got nothing to lose. grasswire Jun 2016 #26
Sanders is lying about a contested convention to keep the small dollar donations flowing Gothmog Jun 2016 #12
It sounds like he will contest the nomination rusty fender Jun 2016 #13
He doesn't actually have the ability to contest the nomination at the convention. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #16
He appears to believe that he can... rusty fender Jun 2016 #17
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Clap your hands for the indictment fairy! Lord Magus Jun 2016 #21
How would it work? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #31
K & R AzDar Jun 2016 #23
The epitome of a candidate who can't accept that he lost and can't leave the race Beacool Jun 2016 #25
He will not. He will endorse her very soon. Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #27
I hope so. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #32
When corporations try to cement their hold on the Party, Maedhros Jun 2016 #33
 

TeacherB87

(249 posts)
1. The convention won't be contested.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jun 2016

Contested: A situation in which no candidate has an overall majority of all delegates.

Bernie supporters need to look at the last close primary (2008) to see how this works.

Clinton will have a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates, thus she will be able to win on the first ballot.

Anything other than this outcome would be wholly undemocratic and a spit in the face of the millions of women and people of color that gave (and will give) her the delegates she needs for a majority.

Superdelegates don't overturn the will of the majority of the pledged delegates anymore (though that was why they were created). You can't find a single example in at least 30+ years that proves otherwise.

2026 - July 7th - this thing is over whether Bernie and his supporters like it or not. All the yelling and screaming in the world won't change the will of the people.

 

TeacherB87

(249 posts)
7. Undemocratic is trying to switch those same people in order to overturn the popular will.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

She will have a majority of pledged delegates regardless. Bernie won't. End of story.

onecaliberal

(32,900 posts)
9. She DOESNT have the popular vote. You can say that all you want but it doesn't make
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

It factual. How is the weather down there under the sand? #Blocked

Demsrule86

(68,691 posts)
10. She does have the popular vote
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

and she has the delegates...Bernie can make a fool out of himself if he chooses. He still loses on the first ballot...but maybe we can get rid of West. No goodies for Bernie and no speech.

 

TeacherB87

(249 posts)
22. Do you have any facts to back up your statement?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jun 2016

Or are you just interested in insulting people you don't know? Or is there some #berniemath that I'm not using to unskew the the fact that 3 million more people have voted for Clinton over Sanders?

Please have your insults make sense. They're more effective that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

Demsrule86

(68,691 posts)
29. She sure does
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

And don't tell me about the pitiful caucuses ... a handful of voters show up at those silly things ...unlike primaries...and she Washington State primary ...where people who were disenfranchised by the complicated caucus process took the time to vote ... a powerful message that.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
6. THE CONTENTION THAT SOMEHOW SHE "WON" IS LAUGHABLE GIVEN ALL THAT HAS TRANSPIRED
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

SINCE 8 MONTHS BEFORE VOTE 1 WAS CAST.....

I DO NOT WANT MORE OF THIS!


e.g., MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!


Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
14. The "MindBlock" is present in people who think Bernie CAN contest the convention.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jun 2016

It doesn't work that way.

Response to Lord Magus (Reply #14)

Demsrule86

(68,691 posts)
11. That is where you are wrong
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jun 2016

it is over whether Bernie continues to display his sore loser attitude or comes to his senses...makes no difference.

Response to Lord Magus (Reply #15)

Feathery Scout

(218 posts)
28. The head of the Democratic Party says when it's over. That's Obama.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jun 2016


Bernie is free to keep fighting.

But the voters will have spoken. The POTUS will have endorsed.

A Presumptive Nominee will be declared. And the General Election will begin.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
26. He's got nothing to lose.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:52 PM
Jun 2016

He's the head of a movement that is larger than the Third Way of the Democratic Party. Progressives and Independents are his base, and they have no obligation any more to vote for Third Way Democrats. He is part of the future, while the Clintons are stuck in the past and are, basically, at a dead end.

Gothmog

(145,604 posts)
12. Sanders is lying about a contested convention to keep the small dollar donations flowing
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jun 2016

This is so sad. There will be no contested convention

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
13. It sounds like he will contest the nomination
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jun 2016

at the convention. He continues to say it. I believe him. He really has nothing to lose by doing so. If he does not put up a fight at the convention, his supporters will call him a sell-out and abandon him. He needs those supporters more than anything.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
16. He doesn't actually have the ability to contest the nomination at the convention.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jun 2016

If he tried he wouldn't even be allowed to set foot on the stage.

Response to Lord Magus (Reply #16)

Demsrule86

(68,691 posts)
31. How would it work?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

In order to contest a convention, you have to have the supers who are willing to support you...he doesn't have that so...one vote aad Hillary is the nominee. At that point out he goes...no speech and no platform. He has nothing.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
25. The epitome of a candidate who can't accept that he lost and can't leave the race
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jun 2016

with a modicum of grace and class.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
33. When corporations try to cement their hold on the Party,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jun 2016

it is right for people of good character to fight against it to the very end. Sure, it's easier just to give up and accept the inevitability of corporate dominance - just lower the bar a bit more, accept just a bit less from your leaders, acquiesce just a bit more to the erosion of our civil liberties and our standard of living.

There, see? Isn't it easier to just stop caring about 'ideals' and focus on beating the Red Team? Focus brings clarity.

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