Why hasn't Nancy Pelosi endorsed Hillary yet?

[pinebox]

They're good friends after all. Does Nancy know something?
Discuss.

[hrmjustin]

1. Sanders is likely to win her district.

[pinebox]

4. Hmmm, honestly you could very well be right

[qdouble]

2. The entire democratic establishment will move behind Hillary between now and the day after DC,

hopefully someone's campaign doesn't make asses out of themselves after that.

[puffy socks]

5. I don't believe someone's campaign has enough common sense to stop making asses of themselves. nt

[pinebox]

7. And that has to do what with my OP?

[senz]

50. It's the bullhorn tactic. Ignore facts and shout, "We won! We won!"

It's born of desperation.

[pinebox]

51. Apparently

Or as I call it "The Shiny Squirrel"

[senz]

57. Democrat here. Sorry, you can't claim victory until you have it.

[NCTraveler]

3. Why hasn't Warren endorsed Sanders? Does she know something? nt.

[tonyt53]

6. Based upon what Bernie's supporters were saying until about a week ago, this was a given.

Now they hate her for the suggestion that she will endorse Hillary after she crosses the delegate threshold. yeah Warren knows something alright. She knows that only Hillary can take down Trump and the GOP.

[senz]

67. Yes, she knows how politically powerful Hill is -- and how vindictive, too.

[NCTraveler]

68. Damn straight.

Don't want to find your way to the list.

[senz]

70. One more reason to keep her out of the White House.

[NCTraveler]

71. FDR and I disagree with that thought. Nt

[senz]

73. FDR would never support a Third Way/DLC/Blue Dog for president.

The Clinton Third Way/DLC/Blue Dog coalition rolled back FDR's New Deal and sold the country out to what FDR had called the "economic royalists."

They are natural enemies.

[NCTraveler]

74. That was not the topic.

The deflection was necessary.

[Zambero]

78. How much longer 'til the Vince Foster conspiracy choir chimes in?

Since the discussion has been gradually escalating, is it only a matter of time?

[onenote]

8. For the same reason Obama, Biden, Carter and Gore haven't endorsed anyone

Because they prefer to await the end of the nominating process. They also haven't endorsed Sanders, right? They're staying officially "neutral", which is what Pelosi did in 2008 as well.

[pinebox]

10. No, not quite

It's normal for the WH not to endorse someone until after the primaries are over.
If that's the case though then you have to give her credit! Props to her for that.

[onenote]

29. Not quite what?

As stated, its no surprise that the most influential super delegates -- the president, vp, past pres and vp, speaker/minority leader, wait until the primaries are over before making a formal endorsement.

In 2008, not only did Pelosi remain on the sidelines until after the final primary, but the same was true for Carter and Gore.

[Democrats Ascendant]

9. She wants folks to vote on their own, but is definitely backing Clinton

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/nancy-pelosi-2016-endorsement-220179

"Still, Pelosi has made her preference for Clinton known for months. She has repeatedly referred to the next president with the female pronoun “she” and has profusely praised Clinton."

[pinebox]

12. Interesting link, have you seen this one?

Pretty good as well http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/nancy-pelosi-defends-bernie-sanders-amid-suggestions-hes-damaging-party

[Democrats Ascendant]

15. Right.

Pelosi is a major sentinel of the Party. She will endorse whoever turns out to win the majority.

[pinebox]

19. Yes she most certainly is

[Democrats Ascendant]

31. Great pic!

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=480

[pinebox]

33. They've been close for ages

[BobbyDrake]

11. Is your Google broken? Pelosi has said she does not want to influence the vote in CA.

Here you go. Educate yourself, maybe.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/nancy-pelosi-hillary-clinton-endorsement-223191

[pinebox]

14. Alrrrrrighty then

Educate myself? My Google is broken? Did you get stranded on the toilet with no toilet paper? My, someone is rather touchy today aren't they? Here, go read this. http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/nancy-pelosi-defends-bernie-sanders-amid-suggestions-hes-damaging-party It's interesting. Next time try not to be a Muppet.

[BobbyDrake]

20. I think you're fishing for an Alertable response, but are being too obvious about it.

Better luck next time.

[pinebox]

24. Uh you go ahead and you think that way

Judging by the convo in the replies though, you're wrong.

You haven't even been here 3 weeks yet lol One should not assume things in such a short time.

[Demsrule86]

13. Nancy said she is remaining neutral, but she day at a press conference she would endorse 'her'. nt

[pinebox]

17. Re-word your title?

You lost me. She said this where? I hadn't actually heard that.

[anotherproletariat]

16. CNN has reported that Hillary is holding back commitments from 40 supers to release on Wed.

She doesn't want to hurt her chances in CA by clinching too early. I would bet that Pelosi is one of these.

[pinebox]

18. Hmmm....that is interesting

and I am thinking you're probably correct.

[Happyhippychick]

21. Why hasn't Nancy Pelosi endorsed Bernie yet?

[pinebox]

26. You could say that

But I don't see her doing that anyhow considering the relationship she has with the Clinton's.
Yup yup.

[Happyhippychick]

41. I don't understand

Either she has the kind of relationship with the Clintons that she would have endorsed, or she doesn't have that kind of relationship. Either way, if she hasn't endorsed Hillary because she doesn't like her or trust her or want her, then why hasn't she endorsed Bernie?

[pinebox]

43. Here's my take

I wouldn't expect her to endorse Bernie unless he is the nominee. Hillary though is different as they have a very close relationship. Look at Harry Reid as an example who endorsed Hillary in February.

Someone pointed out that she did the same thing in 2008 and remained neutral the whole time until we had a nominee. I was unaware of that and I give her props for doing so. That is integrity.

[Happyhippychick]

46. Ah, got it. I didn't realize she hadn't endorsed then either.

[pinebox]

47. Ya

It's rather interesting. As I said, she deserves props on this

[Happyhippychick]

48. Yes she definitely does.

[TwilightZone]

22. She knows that a united front behind the presumptive nominee is more important

than a temporary bump in a primary race that's realistically been over for a while now.

Same applies to President Obama, VP Biden, Elizabeth Warren and many other prominent Dems who will be endorsing Clinton in the next couple weeks.

[FSogol]

23. The higher level party member you are, the later you endorse the candidate*.

Obama and Biden haven't endorsed anyone. Is there really a mystery of who Pelosi will endorse?




* With a few exceptions.

[pinebox]

27. POTUS and VP don't endorse until after primaries

As mentioned above, she did do this in 2008 to remain neutral which I was unaware of. I'll give her credit on that.

[Renew Deal]

25. Same reason Obama or Paul Ryan didn't endorse anyone

Major party leaders usually stay of out of it.

[pinebox]

30. Eh, not sure Paul Ryan is the right reference

I think there's probably other circumstances surrounding that one.
Harry Reid though did endorse Hillary back in February. I'll give Pelosi credit for remaining neutral. Props on that.

[Renew Deal]

35. He's her peer.

They are the party leaders in their chamber.

[pinebox]

37. In a matter of speaking, yes

[Democrats Ascendant]

39. Lol, Ryan did it with a clothespin on his nose and possibly a gun to his head!

I agree that Reid should have waited, but I suppose since she did win NV (albeit with a lot of his help) that it was ok.

[pinebox]

44. No kidding

He had to have vomited after that lol

[drray23]

79. and whats funny about it

is that after weeks of hesitating, he finally endorses Trump. The next day, he has to deal with the aftermath of Trump attacking the press, then later on saying that the judge is racially motivated etc... Its really funny to watch all the repubs trying to get out of answering for Trump's nonsense every time they are interviewed.

[GreatGazoo]

28. Perhaps Pelosi is afraid that when she does, Barbara Boxer will pop up and

shout "You're endorsing Bernie! Go ahead. Endorse yourself out of this election. You're endorsing Bernie!"

[pinebox]

32. Ack....

Barbara Boxer.......

[seabeyond]

34. People get choices and she prefers her state vote before she declares. It is an obvious. She is

respecting her voters.

You probably already knew this.

[beachbum bob]

36. I'm still figuring out any noteworthy endorsement that sanders has by a SD..still haven;t found one

on the other hand I don't have enough time to type in just the noteworthy ones hillary has....

[pinebox]

38. I'm not concerned with endorsements honestly

It's a dog and pony show. It really doesn't mean anything. That goes for both sides.
What matters to me is the issues, not if Hasselhoff endorsed Max The Martian.

[beachbum bob]

40. gotcha...just doing the implication that a lack of endorsement means something serious

.......more sanders based logic?

[pinebox]

45. Why is it you guys are so jaded?

Maybe you should realize when someone wants to have an honest discussion. I mean this is a discussion board after all, right?
Instead, let's go ahead and demean someone, right? Not being baited into your callousness, sorry.

[zappaman]

42. Maybe she busy with the laundry?

[WhiteTara]

49. The primary is tomorrow.

[Nye Bevan]

52. Because she saw what Barbara Boxer was subjected to? (nt)

[senz]

58. Boxer taunted Nevada Democratic voters. She wasn't "subjected" to anything.

And clearly Pelosi made her decision not to endorse the Party favorite long before Nevada.

It takes tremendous courage for a female Democratic legislator to not endorse the big powerful Hillary.

[Sancho]

53. Hillary has reportedly asked some SDs to not commit publicly yet.

One would assume that Pelosi is on the list. The anonymous report was that 40 SDs are prepared to come out for Hillary. Without confirmation, it's just an internet meme at this time, but has been in Hillary circles for a while.

[senz]

69. So Hillary controls Democratic SDs too?

[Sancho]

72. The ones who come and tell her they will support her.

It's their choice...but the answer is YES! The President (or nominee for President) has great latitude as the party leader. It was true for Obama, Clinton, Carter, etc.

Frankly, it's conciliatory for the SDs to hold off so that Bernie can keep going a few more days and compose his concession speech. They could have blasted him out of the water weeks ago if they wanted to do so.

The idea is to GOTV, stay on TV, and have a sparring partner.

[loyalsister]

54. I'm glad she hasn't

I think being in a leadership position (assuming it continues) she will have to work with whomever is elected. It's easier to build a strong relationship with no baggage.
She'll get behind our nominee. More people and organizations should have waited.

[Agnosticsherbet]

55. For the same reason that President Obama and Biden have not.

Of the four top elected office holders of Democratic leadership positions, only Harry Reid officially endorsed Clinton. Harry Reid is not running for another term in the Senate. I think the leadership would rather not give an appearance of preference.

I suspect she will endorse Clinton either Tuesday night or Wednesday.

[monmouth4]

56. Pelosi is a Democrat. Why would she endorse a repub-lite?...n/t

[senz]

59. Neither Pelosi nor Warren have endorsed the Party favorite. Yes, that says something.

[pdsimdars]

60. Didn't she say Bernie would make a better president or have a better chance against Trump?

Something like that.

[Lord Magus]

65. No, I'm pretty sure you're making that up.

You make a lot of things up it seems.

[Beacool]

61. To avoid antagonizing Sanders' supporters.

She knows that their support will be needed to help elect Hillary and the down ticket candidates.

[senz]

64. So...Pelosi's endorsement of Hill would turn people off Hill?

Uh, that doesn't quite add up, Beacool.

[Beacool]

80. What doesn't add up is what you just wrote.

Nancy supports Hillary, since she stepped down as SOS in 2012 she had been trying to convince her to run again. What Nancy is trying to avoid is causing an even wider rift between the Sanders' supporters and the party. Therefore, she will stay neutral until after the CA primary.

[MyNameGoesHere]

62. Unlike Sanders who has all but said he is the nominee

Maybe she wanted to wait until it was over officially on Tuesday.

[senz]

66. He has never said nor implied that. You must be thinking of Hillary.

And there is no way either of them can reach 2383 delegates on Tuesday. It will not be "officially" over until the superdelegates vote at the convention in July.

Rules are rules, sorry.

[Eric J in MN]

75. Reasons

- She's against the Super Delegate system. By not endorsing, she's not counted by the media.

- Her liberal views make her politically closer to Bernie Sanders.

- As a party leader, she's making the process look fairer by waiting until her state votes.

[MFM008]

76. how about WEDS?

after Cali votes??
Maybe thats what she "knows"

"cue spooky music"

[Zambero]

77. Nancy certainly knows that timing is essential

Particularly when it's time to rally behind the nominee. Unlike many of the rank-and-file members of both Houses of Congress, party leadership to include POTUS generally maintains a "neutral" stance until such time that a nomination has been clinched. That endorsement? My prediction: Coming very soon.

[Renew Deal]

81. She did it today

For whatever reason....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512146038

[JoePhilly]

83. +1

[JTFrog]

82. Derp. n/t

[grossproffit]

84. ...

[Nye Bevan]

85. Now she has.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nancy-pelosi-backs-hillary-clinton-president/story?id=39662924

[JoePhilly]

86. Haven't deleted this thread yet?