2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt isn't Bernie supporters who are allowing Trump near the WH.
We support an honest and authentic man who has no scandal and whose policies have remained the same his whole life. He is the ideal candidate for this time, riding the wave of populism and anti-establishment fervor.
He is the most electable against Trump. We support him for that reason.
It is you who DON'T support him that are allowing Trump close to the seat of power.
You support a weak and flailing candidate who is being dogged by a criminal investigation by the FBI and whose "honest and trustworthy" poll numbers are the lowest ever recorded.
We support a strong and vigorous candidate who draws crowds in the tens of thousands and who generates so much excitement that hundreds of thousands are drawn into the Democratic party.
You support a candidate who is very lucky to get five hundred people out and who has to rely on Brock's dirty tricks continually.
We support a candidate with a message of populist Democratic values that have proven sustainable over generations of Americans.
You support a candidate who cannot honestly state her plans for the American people because her allegiance is not to them, but to the oligarchs.
Ergo, it is you who are responsible for Trump, if Hillary does not step aside and make way for the stronger candidate.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Let's see it. You can't and won't find it. You are dabbling with a persecution complex. That is clear.
But.... But.... But....
No buts about it. We are too smart to let racist boy walk into the WH.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Show me where I have ever made the claim you are saying I did.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)....claim that a woman who posts here is somehow over-emotional. Every post I make, you come at me with that attack. It's demeaning, and you should be above that tactic.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)you will forgive me if I don't take your opinion on what I should or shouldn't be above.
And I say feel better to male posters too so deal with it!
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Few over the age of 55 would ever vote for someone with that baggage. The GOP would make it the face of their campaign against him. Also, how would a stronger candidate being losing so badly? if you say conspiracy or fraud, you have just exposed yourself as naive.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Just a talking point.
Red baiting is so out of date.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)how's your Lady Samsonite going to defend herself in the GE?
Seeinghope
(786 posts)We remember things before the corporations took over the working class's lives. When pay and benefits were fair. Working conditions were good. College was more affordable. Healthcare was also manageable. Corporations stepped I and all Hell broke loose.
So, yes people over 55 like Bernie Sanders. We relate to what he wants to do because some of know the what and why behind it. The 55 and over had the front row seat of the dark clouds coming all of our lives.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)But don't blame Sanders. It wasn't his fault that his coworkers didn't endorse him. It wasn't his fault that he didn't understand the rules or prepare at least a year in advance of running for President.
Trump is looking more and more like a dead man walking so actually, no one's 'allowing' him to do anything.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
randome
(34,845 posts)Clinton doesn't exactly send me swooning, either, but who am I to deny the will of the voters? I have a life, I have twin daughters in college and I want things to be easier for them and everyone else, too. Sanders missed the boat by a mile by thinking he could crash the Democratic Party while trash-talking them and get people all riled up.
It's obvious his methods did not work.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)But this what happens when they try to shove Jeb Bush down your throat. You go a little crazy.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Hillary's very effective speech that she delivered in san Diego on Thursday is the type of attack that the campaign will use from now on. Democrats will continue to demonstrate how Trump is unfit for office, while doing so with class and a sense of humor. Neither Hillary nor the party will attack him at his middle school sophomoric level, they will simply use his own words. The contrast between Trump and Hillary will be quite evident.