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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:14 PM Jun 2016

Can we please give Bernie some space? He said he will support our Hillary and I believe him!!!





Bernie Sanders Says He Will ‘Certainly Support’ Hillary Clinton If She’s The Democratic Nominee
“I think the idea of a Donald Trump or a Ted Cruz presidency would be an unmitigated disaster for this country.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton_us_5706fbbde4b03a9e75d3fd93
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Can we please give Bernie some space? He said he will support our Hillary and I believe him!!! (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 OP
He also said he would do everything possible to defeat Trump and he's not doing it. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #1
Exactly!! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #3
I look at it as a retiring athlete... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #13
He is likely afraid some of his supporters will lambaste him when the inevitable endorsement comes. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #5
Forget it. Hillary's supporters here (except for you) John Poet Jun 2016 #51
. Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #8
Honest criticism is permitted and Bernie is doing this to himself Renew Deal Jun 2016 #11
No? Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #15
If you are basing your decision to vote in the fall election.... Tarc Jun 2016 #16
So how does this end? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #18
He certainly will endorse Secretary Clinton - you and I know this... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #26
No, I've said repeatedly that I'm voting for the Democratic nominee... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #19
"I am going to do everything in my power... to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't become president" Renew Deal Jun 2016 #21
He is... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #23
Do you want to know what he could do to keep his promise? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #25
They met last night... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #27
Then he's not doing the right things Renew Deal Jun 2016 #28
No, he's doing the right thing by: Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #31
Agreed , I'm still struggling with kacekwl Jun 2016 #55
"He didn't make me a sandwich! HE WANTS TRUMP TO WIN!" Scootaloo Jun 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jun 2016 #12
What part of "all the way to the convention" do people not understand? eShirl Jun 2016 #10
So he's talking about of both sides of his mouth? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #14
This. Is correct. WTF is he doing. YouDig Jun 2016 #20
Because traditionally the Democrats tend to wipe the slate clean at the Convention LynneSin Jun 2016 #35
She had already conceded and endorsed Pres. Obama. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #49
Agree... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #2
He isn't attacking Hillary any more... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #7
You're the best, DSB!!! Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #4
He's a man wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #6
Your post demonstrates why Bernie needs to leave the field now. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #50
I did not know that wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #54
Yeah let's give poor poor widdle sensitive Bernie some space Hokie Jun 2016 #17
Part of being an adult is biting your tongue and not cutting off your nose to spite your face. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #22
A sincere thank you, DBS. My opinion of you has changed drastically. It is appreciated. floriduck Jun 2016 #34
One can't go through life as if it's an anonymous message board. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #36
Agreed. floriduck Jun 2016 #44
Bernie has the rest of his life to get over losing Hokie Jun 2016 #41
Because this is the end of the line for Bernie. Hillary knew she had one more chance. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #42
Thank you! I'm SICK TO DEATH of all the unnecessary deference. It wouldn't be so bad ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #52
If Hillary was a kacekwl Jun 2016 #56
Who really cares if he supports her or not? KingFlorez Jun 2016 #24
I don't wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #39
On another note wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #29
I saw Sir Paul in concert four times! DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #30
Way cool wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #32
The DC concert was on July 4th . It was awesome. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #33
Again wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #37
I saw the Stones is 81 at the Orlando Citrus Bowl with Van Halen for $17.50. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #38
I think wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #40
I saw the Eagles, Jimmy Buffet, and Andrew Gold in 80 for $10.00 !!! DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #43
Hey DSB! I love the Beatles and 60's rock! skylucy Jun 2016 #45
i had a ticket to Elton John and Billy together Joel but got the flu. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #46
You have more faith in the single minded Senator than I sadly. BootinUp Jun 2016 #47
He lost me when the announcement about Thursday was made. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #48
All our great people will stand shoulder to shoulder, thanks for the great music video! Sunlei Jun 2016 #53

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
1. He also said he would do everything possible to defeat Trump and he's not doing it.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:19 PM
Jun 2016

So why should we believe him on this?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. I look at it as a retiring athlete...
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jun 2016

It's hard walking away.

I would be a liar if I said I thought it was close but my opinion really doesn't matter...He thinks he came close so this is painful for him.

It is also painful for him to know many of his supporters are going to lambaste him when he endorses Hillary.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. He is likely afraid some of his supporters will lambaste him when the inevitable endorsement comes.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jun 2016

He needs space and I am willing to give it to him...

When Lee surrendered at Appomattox General Grant didn't embarrass him and let him keep his sidearm and horse.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
51. Forget it. Hillary's supporters here (except for you)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:10 AM
Jun 2016

want our sidearms, our horse, our shirts and pants and underwear,
and then want us to run their gauntlet naked
while they laugh and throw garbage at us.
Then, maybe, they'll be satisfied.

They call this "unifying the party behind Hillary".





Thanks for the OP.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
15. No?
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jun 2016

Explain where he hasn't? And, again, you really DON'T want to drive votes away from Secretary Clinton, do you? You post does that...

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
16. If you are basing your decision to vote in the fall election....
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jun 2016

...on what strangers say on the internet, then that really says more about you than it does them.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. So how does this end?
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jun 2016

At some point he endorses Hillary and even if it's more anti-Trump than pro-Hillary that will be enough.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
26. He certainly will endorse Secretary Clinton - you and I know this...
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jun 2016

Why are others still fighting the primaries? He's not. Of course he's going to the convention, but not to challenge Secretary Clinton's nomination. He's going to make sure that his voice is at least heard - and it's a good voice that adds traditional Democratic values to the platform (on top of the traditional Democratic values that Secretary Clinton will already espouse).

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
19. No, I've said repeatedly that I'm voting for the Democratic nominee...
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jun 2016

Nice try, Sparky.

On edit: Please reconsider how you interact with others on this website. Transparency page indicates you're not doing this well...

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
21. "I am going to do everything in my power... to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't become president"
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jun 2016

"Needless to say, I am going to do everything in my power and I will work as hard as I can to make sure that Donald Trump does not become president of the United States.”"

He's not doing what he said

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
23. He is...
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jun 2016

We're not even @ the convention yet and you're pre-judging where he's going. Please stop, for the sake of Secretary Clinton?

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
25. Do you want to know what he could do to keep his promise?
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jun 2016

Appear on a stage with Hillary.
Say she won fair and square (which he said about the DNC)
Say that she has his full support
Appear anywhere Hillary chooses

That would be a start.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
31. No, he's doing the right thing by:
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jun 2016

Not criticizing Secretary Clinton anymore. He knows the primaries are over. But, he's also doing the right thing by being a trimtab for the party until the convention (thanks for the concept, Bucky Fuller).

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
55. Agreed , I'm still struggling with
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jun 2016

how I will vote in Nov. This kind of absolute GARBAGE is making it easier daily. My wife has already made up her mind and simply can't vote for Trump or Hillary. As you said , keep it up folks.

Response to Scootaloo (Reply #9)

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
35. Because traditionally the Democrats tend to wipe the slate clean at the Convention
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jun 2016

In 2008 everyone assumed that the Democrats were split and Hillary would not endorse Obama.

In the end she gave an amazing speech at the convention and helped to unite the Democrats and help us defeat McCain/Palin.

Bernie is a good person, I've watched many of his speeches and I cannot believe that he would allow a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole to become president. And I am challenged by a democrat who would allow Trump to win.

Is Hillary the best candidate? Who knows, I was a Biden supporter. But I do know that if we can get a big turnout to help support Hillary then we may be able to retake the Senate and perhaps do some good in this country!

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
49. She had already conceded and endorsed Pres. Obama.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jun 2016

Three days after the last primary;she did so....The vote for the nominee is on Wednesday and Hillary Clinton speaks on Thursday. There will be no what would be essentially a campaign speech before Wednesday. He has lost influence and will continue to do so every day he delays conceding and endorsing.

Mike Nelson

(9,956 posts)
2. Agree...
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jun 2016

...and I don't think his tendency to differ is hurting the Democratic Party. This year, with The Donald running, makes Democrats look greater.

wallyworld2

(375 posts)
6. He's a man
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jun 2016

of his word.

That's why I continue to support him and still think he is the best candidate in this race.

He's still fighting for his progressive agenda of better wages, breaking up the banks, civil rights, jobs, healthcare that works for all and more.

He's not about him, he's about a better country and involvement of all people, not just the establishment elite.

He's the only good thing about this Presidential cycle.

He won't tear up the party for his own glory.

But he will fight for the people of this nation and he will up to the Democratic National Convention and beyond.

That you can count on.

Settling for Hillary, is not settling for her establishment, business as usual agenda.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
50. Your post demonstrates why Bernie needs to leave the field now.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:56 AM
Jun 2016

You still consider him a potential nominee, and he is not anymore. Bernie has lost. He will not be the nominee.

wallyworld2

(375 posts)
54. I did not know that
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jun 2016

I thought it was more than that.

Like his platform is more than worthy of representation

Your post just validate Senator Sanders supporters worries, that the moment he does withdraw, his platform will be completely

abandoned and Hillary will move hard right.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. Part of being an adult is biting your tongue and not cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jun 2016

If massaging his ego is the price of a clean convention that's a price I am willing to pay.

Hokie

(4,288 posts)
41. Bernie has the rest of his life to get over losing
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:25 AM - Edit history (1)

I have never seen a losing candidate be afforded so much space to get over a loss. His actions are approaching childish behavior. There is the work of beating Trump to be done. It's time to get on board or go sulk in the corner. Hillary acted like an adult in 2008. Sanders needs to follow her example.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
42. Because this is the end of the line for Bernie. Hillary knew she had one more chance.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jun 2016

If he wants to speak at the Convention and I am sure he does he has to endorse the nominee. That's the protocol... I just hope some of his more ardent supporters don't lambaste him.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
52. Thank you! I'm SICK TO DEATH of all the unnecessary deference. It wouldn't be so bad ...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jun 2016

... except that Bernie is taking advantage of it... and so are many of his followers. As he continues to "campaign", they see that as an excuse to continue to attack and smear the party and our nominee. ENOUGH!

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
56. If Hillary was a
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jun 2016

Halfway decent candidate no "Help" would be needed to beat Trump. She is poison to many voters sorry to say.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
24. Who really cares if he supports her or not?
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jun 2016

The show will go on whether or not he endorses her, so it's no big deal. She doesn't need his endorsement to win and will win big without it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
33. The DC concert was on July 4th . It was awesome.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jun 2016

I also saw the Stones, Clapton, The Eagles, B.B. King, and Public Enemy.

skylucy

(3,739 posts)
45. Hey DSB! I love the Beatles and 60's rock!
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 10:14 PM
Jun 2016

I've seen Paul McCartney in Sacramento and then again in San Francisco and I have tickets to see him again in a brand new arena in Sacramento in October! I've seen the Stones a few times and Clapton once. Just saw The Who in Oakland a few weeks ago. They were great! I have seen so many aging 60's groups (and some 70's groups) it is crazy. But I love the music. I keep dragging my husband and friends to the concerts because "this is probably their last tour"! Have you ever seen Elton John? He is still unbelievable.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
48. He lost me when the announcement about Thursday was made.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jun 2016

I'm a little conflicted as to the reasons. Part of me thinks it's Bernie's ego but I think the safety and well being of some of his more ardent supporters might also be playing into how he exits the race. There are people here who still believe he will be the nominee. That he will be president. That's not normal thinking given the situation, and I'd imagine Bernie knows there are people out there like that. he may be concerned about how they will react when he does end his campaign.

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