2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy I probably won't vote third party
The goal is:
Thump Trump.
Thump Trump.
Thump Trump.
The more (chronically) mature of us remember that third-party voting in FL gave us eight years of Shrub and Darth Vader and their decisions.
napi21
(45,806 posts)I feel the trumpster would be worse, unbelievable as that sounds. We cannot let the mentally unconscious voters elect him.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)and anyone who voted for him or contributed to his campaign in any way.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)to have any impact on the two-party duopoly.
In 1992, Ross Perot garnered 19 percent of the vote.
After Democrat Bill Clinton unseated incumbent Republican president George Bush, one thing Clinton said during his first term to his staff was that there was compelling reason why Perot garnered nearly one-fifth of the vote.
Balance the budget.
So, I think the two-party candidates would have to reap no more than 88 or 89 percent combined, allowing the third-party nominee to reach 10 percent, for some real impact.
At the rate it is lately, the Republican/Democratic presidential candidates are typically between 96 and 99 percent of the combined two-party vote nationwide. (In 2000, they were 96.25 percent. In 2004, they were 99.00 percent. In 2008, they were 98.58 percent. In 2012, they were 98.18 percent.)
Rs and Ds like this system.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)the reason why there is so much inter-party conflict. Our goals are not the same.
I have a bunch of goals, but the first and foremost is to destroy neo-liberalism in the party and the nation.
Neither Clinton nor Trump will work to do so. That makes the presidential election irrelevant to that goal.
And that goal covers both economic AND social justice.
cyberpunk
(78 posts)Your mileage may vary, but Nader had nothing to do with the fact that the Supreme Court chose Bush. Maybe both sides should have figured out how to court their ex-party members who went third party-- that's nothing on them, that they rejected your binary choice.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)rent-a-mobs, and a do-nothing Hill caused 2000--even Gore said it wasn't Nader
but of course the Dems are the party of voter caging, Jeb Bush, corrupt Supreme Courts, rent-a-mobs, and do-nothing Hills now
blaming Nader is the Moon landing denial of the Democratic party