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ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:38 AM Mar 2012

LIVE BLOG — Hawaii Republican Caucuses 2012

Last edited Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:25 AM - Edit history (2)

20 Delegates - 17 bound + 3 superdelegates out of 2,286 primary delegates are at stake.

By The Civil Beat Staff 03/13/2012

Welcome to Civil Beat's live blog about Hawaii's Republican caucuses.
Civil Beat is planning to have reporters at a number of caucus sites on Oahu as well as on Kauai, Maui and the Big Island.

Here's the latest:

Ewa Beach: A Santorum Stronghold

The votes are piling up for Rick Santorum, at least in this one reporter’s personal exit poll.

Seven of the 10 voters I have talked to chose Santorum, and most cited his family values.

“His character, his morals, what he stands for,” said Summer Ball, a 33-year-old unemployed campaign volunteer who lives here in Ewa Beach.

A self-described “Air Force brat” who has been in Hawaii off and on since 1997, is here observing the vote, making sure nobody stuffs the ballot box.

— Michael Levine


More: http://www.civilbeat.com/articles/2012/03/13/15185-live-blog-hawaii-republican-caucuses-2012/
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LIVE BLOG — Hawaii Republican Caucuses 2012 (Original Post) ellisonz Mar 2012 OP
Big turnout in Waikiki RandySF Mar 2012 #1
Most likely... ellisonz Mar 2012 #2
Ron Paul Takes Waimea ellisonz Mar 2012 #3
How is the GOP rank and file out there? RandySF Mar 2012 #4
Gone further right... ellisonz Mar 2012 #7
Sounds like it could be anyone but newt. dkf Mar 2012 #5
Update from GOP Headquarters ellisonz Mar 2012 #6
Does Hawaii have an open primary there? Tx4obama Mar 2012 #8
Modified closed caucus. ellisonz Mar 2012 #9
You have to be a member of the Republican party to participate. dkf Mar 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Tx4obama Mar 2012 #19
Any station doing live coverage of the Hawaii results? I stayed up for this. n/t musicblind Mar 2012 #9
Nope. ellisonz Mar 2012 #12
Aw that sucks. That the stations aren't covering. It's 2:30 am EST Standard here. A state is a state musicblind Mar 2012 #22
Accidental Duplicate musicblind Mar 2012 #9
Ron Paul ‘Woke Me Up’ ellisonz Mar 2012 #13
Some tweets ellisonz Mar 2012 #15
They'll screw this up just like Iowa. RandySF Mar 2012 #16
Ballots will end up in volcanos and whatnot. ellisonz Mar 2012 #18
While we wait - anyone wanna bet 10 DU beers against Mitt Romney winning Laie? ellisonz Mar 2012 #17
Why am I waiting up for a Republican caucus RandySF Mar 2012 #20
Addiction. ellisonz Mar 2012 #23
Same here. And I'm in North Carolina and it's 2:30 am musicblind Mar 2012 #24
Regarding Hawaii Tx4obama Mar 2012 #21
Willard up by 3% according to HuffPost count. RandySF Mar 2012 #25
@6.7% - Rmoney - 43% - Pau 27% - Frothy 15% - Noot - 15% ellisonz Mar 2012 #26
@16% - Rmoney - 32% - Frothy 28% - Pau - 23% - Noot 17% ellisonz Mar 2012 #27
Was it supposed to be this close? RandySF Mar 2012 #28
Too early to tell. ellisonz Mar 2012 #29
THIS is a big turnout? RandySF Mar 2012 #31
Hey - we're not talking about the brightest group of people here... ellisonz Mar 2012 #33
Yeah, I'm surprised that there aren't very many votes so far with almost a quarter precincts in. n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #34
Isn't that normal for a caucus? LisaL Mar 2012 #36
This is not a primary so that is to be expected. LisaL Mar 2012 #35
Follow Hawaii Live Lolpac.org Mar 2012 #30
I'm watching the numbers on the link in comment #32 n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #37
@22% - Rmoney 34% - Frothy - 28% - Pau - 21% - Noot 16% ellisonz Mar 2012 #32
@27% - Rmoney - 32% - Frothy - 26% - Pau 25% - Noot - 15% ellisonz Mar 2012 #38
One thing is for sure, the majority of folks in all of the races tonight do not like Rmoney :) n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #40
You might say Rmoney has an authenticity problem leading people to believe he is uncreditworthy ;-) ellisonz Mar 2012 #43
Drudge must be getting the flashing lights ready. RandySF Mar 2012 #39
@33% - Rmoney - 33% - Frothy - 28% - Pau - 23% - Noot - 16% ellisonz Mar 2012 #41
Santorum taking back the lead in Honolulu County RandySF Mar 2012 #42
You're right. This just officially got interesting. ellisonz Mar 2012 #44
Why are they holding back results in Kuai County? RandySF Mar 2012 #45
Wouldn't read too much into it. ellisonz Mar 2012 #46
Rmoney now only up by 1% in Maui. RandySF Mar 2012 #47
Nate Silver says ... Tx4obama Mar 2012 #48
OMG that would be even better than MS. RandySF Mar 2012 #50
@36% - Rmoney 32% - Frothy - 28% - Pau - 26% - Noot - 15% ellisonz Mar 2012 #49
An interesting tweet from Nate Silver Tx4obama Mar 2012 #51
I don't think it will matter that much... ellisonz Mar 2012 #53
38% in. RandySF Mar 2012 #52
Update RandySF Mar 2012 #54
@42% - Mittens - 34.5% - Ol'Frothy - 30% - Crazy Old Man - 21.5% - Pigboy - 13.5% ellisonz Mar 2012 #55
Hawaii GOP Slow in Counting Caucus Votes ellisonz Mar 2012 #56
@58% - Mittens - 34 - Ol'Frothy - 30% - Crazy Old Man - 22.% - Pigboy - 14% ellisonz Mar 2012 #57
@62% - Mittens 33.4% - Ol'Frothy - 28.7% - Crazy Old Man - 23.8% - Pigboy - 14.2% ellisonz Mar 2012 #58
@69% - Mittens - 35.5% - Ol'Frothy - 29.1% - Crazy Old Man - 21.6% - Pigboy - 13.7% ellisonz Mar 2012 #59
Romney won. n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #61
Mormons did it. ellisonz Mar 2012 #64
@78% - Mittens - 45.7% - Ol'Frothy 25.1% - Crazy Old Man - 18% - Pigboy - 11.2% ellisonz Mar 2012 #60
They called it for Romney. Laie may have single-handedly saved him from disaster. ellisonz Mar 2012 #62
I'm heading to bed. See ya for the next one next time :) Tx4obama Mar 2012 #63
Aloha mai :-) ellisonz Mar 2012 #65
RON PAUL WHAT HAPPENED!!! ellisonz Mar 2012 #66
@100% - Romney 45% - Santorum - 25% - Paul - 18% - Newt - 11% ellisonz Mar 2012 #67
Super thread, mahalo Ellisonz. mahina Mar 2012 #68
Photos here KamaAina Mar 2012 #69

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
2. Most likely...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:44 AM
Mar 2012

...Did you see that Romney has won the wealthy by a significant margin in every race. I think we're looking at Santorum/Newt in the military areas, Romney in the money areas, and a sprinkling of Paul. I kinda doubt that Hawaii give it's typical lack of enthusiasm is going to turn out big for Ron Paul (I always want to type Ron Pau - "done/over" ).

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
3. Ron Paul Takes Waimea
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:46 AM
Mar 2012
WAIMEA, HAWAII ISLAND — Ron Paul is energizing people going to the caucus here. About 100 people have come through the door since it opened at 6 p.m. and most have declared their support for the Texas congressman.

We talked to one Mitt Romney supporter, but there definitely seems to be an organized movement for Paul.

In fact, a stack of bumper stickers and support cards on the table for former Gov. Linda Lingle, the GOP’s star player, are drawing some ire. One woman was very upset that Lingle was being allowed to “campaign” at the caucus.

Caucus workers are instructing people to fill out the cards which are addressed to the campaign.

— Tiffany Edwards Hunt


That's rural north Big Island - Waimea is a Parker Ranch town.

RandySF

(58,877 posts)
4. How is the GOP rank and file out there?
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:48 AM
Mar 2012

The last prominent Republicans I remember to Linda Lingle and Pat Saiki, and bot seemed pretty moderate.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
7. Gone further right...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:54 AM
Mar 2012

...Lingle really is just a flip-flopping Bush "moderate" - her and Palin are pals. She puts on a good show but she's in league with the righties. The Hawaii GOP is pretty disorganized - they switched chairmen last November because Joseph Kaauwai was lousy and now they have David Chang (who I know nothing about).

Some Republicans Want To Oust Hawaii GOP Chair
Jonah Kaauwai Is Being Targeted For Replacement
Keoki Kerr KITV4 News
POSTED: 10:36 pm HST September 20, 2011
UPDATED: 11:04 pm HST September 20, 2011
Read more: http://www.kitv.com/news/29251661/detail.html#ixzz1p4GOd5GN


I think they are weaker, but still have some potential with Linda Lingle running for Senate and Charles Djou running for CD1 again.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
6. Update from GOP Headquarters
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:51 AM
Mar 2012
Three locations ran out of ballots, and earlier in the evening party officials were taking more ballots to Jefferson Elementary.

People from various camps are starting to trickle into the HQ, which has been somewhat quiet for most of the evening.

Stacks of red-and-white Hawaii GOP shirts are still waiting to be passed out.

— Nathan Eagle


Jefferson Elementary is Waikiki.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
8. Does Hawaii have an open primary there?
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:55 AM
Mar 2012

Seems like the majority of Hawaiians will be voting for President Obama in November.

Hard to even imagine there being very many republicans in Hawaii.
===========

Edited to add

From the 2008 Presidential election:

Obama 325,871 (71.85 %)
McCain 120,566 (26.58 %)


ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
9. Modified closed caucus.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:07 AM
Mar 2012

You can switch at the Caucus site, but you've got to be a registered Republican, no independents.

Hawaii is 40% registered Democrats, 23% registered Republicans and the remaining 37% are independents.

First results will be about half an hour.



Whew - the DU is glitching again.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
14. You have to be a member of the Republican party to participate.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:12 AM
Mar 2012

But you can sign up right there at the caucus. That is generally how they gain their members, at least that's how the Hawaii Democrats work.

When we pull ballots for the primary elections you get to choose which party you are voting for so it doesn't matter if you are a registered R or D.

Response to ellisonz (Reply #6)

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
12. Nope.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:10 AM
Mar 2012

I don't even think the local stations bother covering it live really...

Glad you stayed up - but I think it could be an hour or two before there is a clear picture. Hawaii ain't exactly the most organized political state.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
22. Aw that sucks. That the stations aren't covering. It's 2:30 am EST Standard here. A state is a state
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:25 AM
Mar 2012

they are all equal and this is a big day for Hawaii.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
13. Ron Paul ‘Woke Me Up’
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:11 AM
Mar 2012
Ron Paul ‘Woke Me Up’

KAHULUI, MAUI — Things have slowed down here. Every few minutes someone shows up, but the rush seen at the beginning is over.

Poll watchers are on hand for Mitt Romney, Ron Paul and Rick Santorum, but no one is here watching out for New Gingrich’s interests.

Sean Housman is a 35-year-old pastor who is serving as a poll watcher for Ron Paul.

“I’ve never been passionate about politics, but Ron Paul woke me up,” he says.

— Todd A. Vines

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
15. Some tweets
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:16 AM
Mar 2012
Hawaii GOP Party Chair David Chang apologizes for long lines at polling places but is excited about the interest in the GOP.
by Clayton Wakida/Staff 11:13 PM

RT @CivilBeat: [VIDEO] Hawaii’s Lone GOP State Senator Comes Out For Romney [LIVE BLOG — Hawaii Republican Caucuses 2012] t.co ...
by DannysKorner via twitter 10:55 PM

Mitt Romney: "Hawaii is a special place, if I didn't already own a private island It'd be my adopted summer home state" #realMittRomney #GOP
by pdopetakeover via twitter 10:56 PM

18 minutes to close #808caucus ... Note these are all paper ballots so don't expect instant results
by DannysKorner via twitter 10:39 PM

Read more: http://livewire.kitv.com/Event/Hawaii_Republican_Presidential_Caucus#ixzz1p4LzuRUI

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
24. Same here. And I'm in North Carolina and it's 2:30 am
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:27 AM
Mar 2012

The reason... we're political junkies. That's why

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
27. @16% - Rmoney - 32% - Frothy 28% - Pau - 23% - Noot 17%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:42 AM
Mar 2012

(7/45 precincts - 2 Oahu - 4 Maui - 1 Big Island)

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
29. Too early to tell.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:46 AM
Mar 2012

We'll know when Oahu comes in - important to remember that's 75% of the state. It's close on Oahu - He's down to Frothy by about 3 points.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
33. Hey - we're not talking about the brightest group of people here...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:01 AM
Mar 2012

...they are Republicans after all.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
34. Yeah, I'm surprised that there aren't very many votes so far with almost a quarter precincts in. n/t
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:02 AM
Mar 2012

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
38. @27% - Rmoney - 32% - Frothy - 26% - Pau 25% - Noot - 15%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:08 AM
Mar 2012

Only 2 precincts from Oahu, (12/45) reporting.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
40. One thing is for sure, the majority of folks in all of the races tonight do not like Rmoney :) n/t
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:16 AM
Mar 2012

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
43. You might say Rmoney has an authenticity problem leading people to believe he is uncreditworthy ;-)
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:20 AM
Mar 2012

RandySF

(58,877 posts)
39. Drudge must be getting the flashing lights ready.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:09 AM
Mar 2012

Because he can finally celebrate a Rmoney victory tonight.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
41. @33% - Rmoney - 33% - Frothy - 28% - Pau - 23% - Noot - 16%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:19 AM
Mar 2012

Mitt Romney - 435 votes - 33%
Rick Santorum - 378 votes - 28%
Ron Paul - 313 votes - 23%
Newt Gingrich - 210 votes - 16%

RandySF

(58,877 posts)
42. Santorum taking back the lead in Honolulu County
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:20 AM
Mar 2012

And Paul catching up to Rmoney in Hawaii County. COULD get interesting.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
44. You're right. This just officially got interesting.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:21 AM
Mar 2012

No sleep for nobody now - hope you got mai tais.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
46. Wouldn't read too much into it.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:24 AM
Mar 2012

But yeah, Kauai probably goes Willard - lotta rich people in new developments. Oahu is his problem - fair deal of fundies.

According to the civilbeat blog, Laie had about 1000 people - so that's where Romney is really hedging. Brigham Young has a campus there.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
48. Nate Silver says ...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:29 AM
Mar 2012

Nate Silver ‏ @fivethirtyeight

Romney still up 4 in Hawaii. But Santorum has a slight lead so far in Honolulu County, where most of the remaining vote is.

https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight/status/179829730097377280


ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
49. @36% - Rmoney 32% - Frothy - 28% - Pau - 26% - Noot - 15%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:30 AM
Mar 2012
35.6% precincts reporting (16/45) |
12:30 a.m. PDT

Romney
531 votes
31.6%

Santorum
466 votes

Paul
435 votes
25.9%

Gingrich
250 votes
14.9%



Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
51. An interesting tweet from Nate Silver
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:39 AM
Mar 2012

Nate Silver ‏ @fivethirtyeight

Hawaii did not start voting until Midnight eastern (6pm local), AFTER results of MS/AL were known. May explain why Mitt underperforming

https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
53. I don't think it will matter that much...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:44 AM
Mar 2012

...my sense is that those who chalked off Hawaii did so prematurely. The fundamentalist community in Hawaii is strong and they underestimated that in their predictions. We're still waiting for most of the big districts on Oahu.

Maui and the Big Island are both extremely narrow.

RandySF

(58,877 posts)
54. Update
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:57 AM
Mar 2012

With seven of eight precincts reporting on Maui, Mitt Romney has 243 votes and Ron Paul has 239. Paul may not have won a state nationally, but he’s close to winning a Hawaii county.

Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum are slugging it out in Hawaii, with Romney holding a slight edge with 33 percent of precincts reporting. Romney has 435 votes, Santorum 378, Ron Paul 313 and New Gingrich 210. The turnout in heavily Mormon Laie is still not in. About 1,000 people are believed to have voted there.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
55. @42% - Mittens - 34.5% - Ol'Frothy - 30% - Crazy Old Man - 21.5% - Pigboy - 13.5%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:00 AM
Mar 2012

42.2% precincts reporting (19/45) |

More from Oahu. Romney pulls ahead there by 3%.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
56. Hawaii GOP Slow in Counting Caucus Votes
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:07 AM
Mar 2012

One hour and 55 minutes after the caucuses closed, the Hawaii Republican Party still hadn’t counted ballots from more than 50 percent of its 45 precincts.

This was the party’s first caucus, and it showed. The party ran out of ballots at a handful of precincts. And at 9:55, it had results from just 17 of 45 precincts, or 38 percent.

Civil Beat Blog

On the KITV Live Feed: http://livewire.kitv.com/Event/Hawaii_Republican_Presidential_Caucus - They seem to be manually delivering caucus results to the headquarters where they are counted and then results are posted as such. This is not unprecedented for Hawaii elections but it does seems to be slightly slower than past elections (the state isn't that fast either). Hope no one has to get up early tomorrow, this could be a late night!

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
57. @58% - Mittens - 34 - Ol'Frothy - 30% - Crazy Old Man - 22.% - Pigboy - 14%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:13 AM
Mar 2012

Mitt Romney - 1,213 votes - 34%
Rick Santorum - 1,051 votes - 30%
Ron Paul - 778 votes - 22%
Newt Gingrich - 481 votes - 14%

Romney up by 4% on Oahu, wins Maui by 9 votes, Ron Paul leading on the Big Island.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
58. @62% - Mittens 33.4% - Ol'Frothy - 28.7% - Crazy Old Man - 23.8% - Pigboy - 14.2%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:21 AM
Mar 2012

Ron Paul looks to have won the Big Island.

62.2% precincts reporting (28/45) |
1:21 a.m. PDT

Oahu (11/23)

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
59. @69% - Mittens - 35.5% - Ol'Frothy - 29.1% - Crazy Old Man - 21.6% - Pigboy - 13.7%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:26 AM
Mar 2012

68.9% precincts reporting (31/45) |
1:24 a.m. PDT

(14/23) on Oahu and Romney has a 7% lead.

Mitt Romney - 1,732 votes - 36%
Rick Santorum - 1,418 votes - 29%
Ron Paul - 1,055 votes - 22%
Newt Gingrich - 669 votes - 14%

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
64. Mormons did it.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:41 AM
Mar 2012

CD2 which is everything outside of Honolulu town, Pearl Harbor and Mililani outvoted CD-1 pretty massively. It's looking like he got 1000 net votes out of Laie (folks don't vacation at the Polynesian Cultural Center). Guess they had no qualms voting for a moderate!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2012/by_cd/HI_Page_0313_VD.html?SITE=CSPANELN&SECTION=POLITICS

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
60. @78% - Mittens - 45.7% - Ol'Frothy 25.1% - Crazy Old Man - 18% - Pigboy - 11.2%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:31 AM
Mar 2012

77.8% precincts reporting (35/45) |
1:30 a.m. PDT

I think Laie just came in and that might be all she wrote. Romney now has a 1300 vote lead. Damn those Mormons got out and went to vote. Could be Waikiki too.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
62. They called it for Romney. Laie may have single-handedly saved him from disaster.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:34 AM
Mar 2012

I expect it to probably narrow a little bit - but he got what he needed from the flock.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
66. RON PAUL WHAT HAPPENED!!!
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:46 AM
Mar 2012




84.4% precincts reporting (38/45)
1:48 a.m. PDT

Romney
3,235 votes
45.0%

Santorum
1,822 votes
25.3%

Paul
1,335 votes
18.6%

Gingrich
798 votes
11.1%

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
67. @100% - Romney 45% - Santorum - 25% - Paul - 18% - Newt - 11%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:46 PM
Mar 2012
Romney
4,250 votes
45.4
9 - Delegates

Santorum
2,369 votes
25.3%
4 - Delegates

Paul
1,712 votes
18.3%
1 - Delegate

Gingrich
1,034 votes
11.0%
0

mahina

(17,663 posts)
68. Super thread, mahalo Ellisonz.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:20 PM
Mar 2012

Just got to this...nice going!

The Civil Beat article is a crackup too...

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
69. Photos here
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 05:32 PM
Mar 2012


(HI's legislature is 43-8 D in the House and an unbelievable 24-1 D in the Senate! I wonder how Sen. Slom fared in the leadership election. And how he manages to cover all the committees. )
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