2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTrump IS their nominee. Period. He has WON it. He is IT. End of story.
Trump beat 16 opponents to win the R nomination. He has a "YUGE" following in that right wing party. Trump says what they think, and they LOVE him for it.
The RNC says all these rumors about an effort to overturn the will of their voters is bunk. They are between a rock and hard place. If they dump Trump at their convention, there will be all out civil war in that party.
And he sure as all hell isn't quitting the race. His "YUGE" ego would never allow him to do that. He knows if he did that he'd go down in history as THE WORLD'S "YUGEST" QUITTER AND WEAKLING.
And who would replace him if was ousted? No one would want it because they know they were simply an inserted FAKE candidate.
Trump would go indy, take his followers with him, and decimate the R party.
Nope, they got Trumpenstein and they are STUCK with him.
Logical
(22,457 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Is it impossible? No.
Is it likely? No.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)gordianot
(15,242 posts)Again
randome
(34,845 posts)His latest fund-raising campaign -where he's promising to match donations within 48 hours- smacks of desperation. His lack of money, despite everything he's said thus far, is about to be revealed in such a way that it can't be obfuscated or ignored.
As thin-skinned as he is, I wouldn't put it past him to throw a tantrum and drop out. What would the GOP do in that situation? They'd find a place-holder and write off the election.
spooky3
(34,460 posts)At first I thought his cover story might be health reasons. But now I think a better story might be that the Washington Establishment Republicans Were Just Too Uncooperative.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)spooky3
(34,460 posts)Are being assembled as we speak, and it's pretty clear he needs the money.
Mr Maru
(216 posts)Or wishful thinking. Any evidence to back that up?
spooky3
(34,460 posts)What I think will happen and didn't make any claims.
The reasoning is that he needs money and that the GOP is facing a disaster if either they try to FORCE him out, or he is nominated at their convention and continues on.
What I WISH would happen is that he continues as the candidate. I believe he will continue to screw up.
Mr Maru
(216 posts)around to stick around or they ALL lose their jobs.
What is the plausibility of Trump being capable of having the self restraint to keep quiet about a deal like that?
What are the chances that anyone with that kind of money would be dumb enough to go in on such a deal & trust Trump to follow through AND keep quit about an illegal deal?
The mouth-breathers would absolutely lose their shit - they wouldn't just walk out of the party, they would set on fire, stab it in the heart and take scalps on the way out.
Hardly worth the risk when they can simply let him lose, and then just explain that he was obviously never really a republican anyway, and try again next time.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Trump University
Trying to build something where he's not wanted
Trump Water
The list goes on and on.
Call the man what you will, and i call him plenty, but he knows when to cut losses.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)even as a lost prez candidate, it would open him up to huge book deals, speaking fees, etc. even bigger than he may already have.
He is IT, period.,
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Once he has been convinced he will lose, he'll pack his bags and hit the road.
He cannot stand losing.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)He beat sixteen opponents to win that nomination. Do you honestly think he'll quit now? Never, ever, ever gonna happen. Please, enough of this.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Be ready to eat your words.
randome
(34,845 posts)When it's finally proven that he really is nearly broke, the only way to can get away from this 'other form of kryptonite' is to call everyone liars and leave.
It's going to be interesting to watch these 2 parts of his psyche go to war with one another: "never a quitter" versus public embarrassment on a scale unseen in modern times.
spooky3
(34,460 posts)Come with lots of $ to withdraw from Adelson, Kochs, etc.
randome
(34,845 posts)Mr Maru
(216 posts)Budget & blame the entire Republican establishment if he loses than bow out. Too much ego. He won't drop out.
renate
(13,776 posts)He'll be like me, the way I used to pretend to sprain an ankle before PE class. Once Election Day is around the corner and it's obvious he's going to lose, he'll sprain an ankle and withdraw from the race. Which means I hope his VP choice is as ridiculous as he is.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)If they pulled any kind of switch at the convention, his idiot followers would start a war on the spot, and many of those idiots will be carrying weapons, it wouldn't be a great idea to piss them off by taking the nomination away from him. There have already been at least to different morons telling his supporters to use violence against any protesters against Trump. These people are crazy enough to do anything, including using their guns.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)ecstatic
(32,712 posts)Trump has a severe personality disorder. His future behavior, especially in the face of tremendous opposition, cannot be predicted.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Maybe months....
I just.....no not..............believe t.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)jzodda
(2,124 posts)Rachel Maddow reported last night that the delegate revolt had reached 400. In only one week its exploded.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)jzodda
(2,124 posts)that allows delegates to vote their conscience on the first ballot then all bets are off. Interesting stuff.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)loose. Then Trump can threaten to go third-party, knowing his rabid followers will follow him.
Don't forget - he's gotten more votes in the primaries than any other Repub candidate in GOP history.
The only way I see King-Con Don drop out is if billionaires offer him a sum to do so that he can't refuse. They've already offered $150M but that's peanuts for a guy like him. I'm certain if they offered him $1B, he'll change his mind. It's always all about the $$ for this guy. He's marketing his name and his title as the Republican presumptive nominee and he's gonna want a hefty price for those.
I will have my popcorn ready! Never thought a republican convention would ever be must see TV for me but this year it is.
The idea of taking hundreds of millions to NOT take a job is a hard one for me to contemplate in my lousy temp job but I am trying.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)The idea of taking hundreds of millions to NOT take a job is a hard one for me to contemplate in my lousy temp job but I am trying.
The biggest prize to win in this country is the White House, and Trump is going to want the biggest buyout. It's what frightened me the most about this guy. If he stays true to his business model, and if by some miracle he won the presidency, he'd sell it piece by piece, one department after the other, to the highest bidder - just like Cheney and G.W. did, and U.$. M$M will white-wash the whole thing, as they did with Cheney and G.W.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)He'll be a distant memory by then.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)That was just the beginning of the story. He ran against a pathetic gaggle of loons and crackpots.
He's done, it's just a matter of when he exits.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)First, he had many strong opponents such as Rubio and Kasich. Ted Cruz was an ultra right winger also very popular in their base who beat him in a good number of contests. Kasich, Rubio, Jeb Bush, George Pataki, etc. are not "crackpots."
It is true that the winner take all system in the R party helped him win with pluralities. But he defied the odds BIGTIME to win that primary. He will not now just chuck all that and walk away from a fight with Hillary Clinton and all her surrogates like Warren. If he did he knows he would go down in history as the KING OF QUITTERS AND WEAKLINGS.
That will never, ever happen in a million years.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Wait and see.
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The only thing that will get him out is a health or family crisis. Otherwise all the trumpets will go insane.
cali
(114,904 posts)unhinged, narcissistic, undisciplined, tRUMP.
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BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)rid of him, I believe, is to offer him a YUGE sum of money - something like $1 billion (Kochs were planning on investing nearly that much in order to buy the White House). Maybe even $2 billion or more, knowing his immense ego and knowing that he's got something the moneyed RWers and Libertarian billionaires desperately want.
Remember...Trump is a marketing genius. He knows what his audience wants.
He's just waiting for their offer. If they don't offer, he'll continue to damage the Republican Party and take them down as he goes down. I don't see him losing those delegates at the Repub Convention because if the GOP tries to steal the nomination from him after he's been called the presumptive nominee by all media, all hell is going to break loose.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)To salvage anything, Trump would need to do a total makeup. That still won't save them.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)While at the same time selling their base's economic interests out.
Now they have a candidate who appeals to both the racism and xenophobia and their economic interests, or at least says he does.
Trump most truly represents the base that the GOP has created, but now we have the GOP calling him out over his racism and sexism? When we know they are really worried about his stance on trade and Social Security.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)I guess part of me believes that no one can destroy his campaign as he has done, without doing it on purpose. Also, the whole money thing and lack of ad buying in swing states is suspicious. And, Ryan has been putting out his platforms and been everywhere on the news...as the reasonable republican.
It is all so suspicious. I do agree that I am not considering his supporters.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Trump might be given an "Offer he can't Refuse", and quietly let the Republicans appoint a candidate at the convention.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)It isn't that far away. Chill.