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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:38 AM Jun 2016

Trump IS their nominee. Period. He has WON it. He is IT. End of story.

Trump beat 16 opponents to win the R nomination. He has a "YUGE" following in that right wing party. Trump says what they think, and they LOVE him for it.

The RNC says all these rumors about an effort to overturn the will of their voters is bunk. They are between a rock and hard place. If they dump Trump at their convention, there will be all out civil war in that party.

And he sure as all hell isn't quitting the race. His "YUGE" ego would never allow him to do that. He knows if he did that he'd go down in history as THE WORLD'S "YUGEST" QUITTER AND WEAKLING.

And who would replace him if was ousted? No one would want it because they know they were simply an inserted FAKE candidate.

Trump would go indy, take his followers with him, and decimate the R party.

Nope, they got Trumpenstein and they are STUCK with him.

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Trump IS their nominee. Period. He has WON it. He is IT. End of story. (Original Post) RBInMaine Jun 2016 OP
Hope you are right! Nt Logical Jun 2016 #1
It is highly improbable the GOP will replace him even if the GOP had the will. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #2
Highly unlikely. It is Trump. Period. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #27
Ann Romney is just wanting to decorate the White House. gordianot Jun 2016 #3
I would have agreed with you even last week but now I'm not so sure. randome Jun 2016 #4
I think there's a good chance he'll withdraw, too. spooky3 Jun 2016 #7
Never, ever, ever gonna happen. Baseless, factless speculation. Trump doesn't quit. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #21
Follow the money. :-) I think the big money bribes spooky3 Jun 2016 #24
That sounds like a very far-flung theory Mr Maru Jun 2016 #42
Call it whatever you want. I was clear that that is spooky3 Jun 2016 #43
They need all those mouth-breathers following him Mr Maru Jun 2016 #45
But his Chapter 11s is a form of quitting. floriduck Jun 2016 #31
He doesn't quit, unless it's Exilednight Jun 2016 #40
Never gonna happen. He loves the limelight. His ego would never allow him to quit. Also, RBInMaine Jun 2016 #12
Nope. Nope. Nope. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #15
Nope nope nope to your "nope nope nope". He's sure he will win. He will not go out a "quitter". RBInMaine Jun 2016 #19
Wishing it won't make it so. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #22
But the other side of his absurd personality is that he can't stand to be embarrassed. randome Jun 2016 #23
And the avoid public embarrassment option will also spooky3 Jun 2016 #26
And you're right: it is clear he needs the money. randome Jun 2016 #33
I think he would rather stay in on a shoestring Mr Maru Jun 2016 #44
I think you're right renate Jun 2016 #46
I totally agree Andy823 Jun 2016 #5
Yup. It would be MASSIVE GOP civil war. He is IT. Period. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #13
"His "YUGE" ego would never allow him to do that" ecstatic Jun 2016 #6
I've thought for weeks now that trump will not end up being the nominee. pangaia Jun 2016 #8
Hey GOP: Haw-haw FSogol Jun 2016 #9
Dont be so sure jzodda Jun 2016 #10
He's got the delegates. They just want headlines. He IS the nominee. Um, just ask the RNC. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #16
If they succeed in adding a clause jzodda Jun 2016 #20
True. But if they try and pull that stunt and put Jeb Bush in his place, all hell is going to break BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #28
Well jzodda Jun 2016 #35
Hah! You and me BOTH. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #37
He won't be the nominee in the GE. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #11
My goodness, based on WHAT???? HE WON THE PRIMARY!! End of story. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #14
Winning the primary was the easy part. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #18
Oh how I wish we could bet on this. I would take your money in a heartbeat. He is NOT quitting. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #25
You'll be glad you didn't bet. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #34
Yep. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #17
Agree - the GOP will not replace him leftynyc Jun 2016 #29
It's idiotic to think ANYTHING is written in stone when it comes to the cali Jun 2016 #30
Yep. He won the primaries with more votes than any other Repub in GOP history. The only way to be BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #32
Doesn't matter what happens. The GOP is screwed either way. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #36
GOP has spent years and years courting racists and those who are against political correctness hollowdweller Jun 2016 #38
It can only be purposeful Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #39
I donno. bvar22 Jun 2016 #41
I tend to agree, but why not wait until the convention to be so definite? Motown_Johnny Jun 2016 #47

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. It is highly improbable the GOP will replace him even if the GOP had the will.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jun 2016

Is it impossible? No.

Is it likely? No.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. I would have agreed with you even last week but now I'm not so sure.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jun 2016

His latest fund-raising campaign -where he's promising to match donations within 48 hours- smacks of desperation. His lack of money, despite everything he's said thus far, is about to be revealed in such a way that it can't be obfuscated or ignored.

As thin-skinned as he is, I wouldn't put it past him to throw a tantrum and drop out. What would the GOP do in that situation? They'd find a place-holder and write off the election.

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
7. I think there's a good chance he'll withdraw, too.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jun 2016

At first I thought his cover story might be health reasons. But now I think a better story might be that the Washington Establishment Republicans Were Just Too Uncooperative.

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
24. Follow the money. :-) I think the big money bribes
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jun 2016

Are being assembled as we speak, and it's pretty clear he needs the money.

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
43. Call it whatever you want. I was clear that that is
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

What I think will happen and didn't make any claims.

The reasoning is that he needs money and that the GOP is facing a disaster if either they try to FORCE him out, or he is nominated at their convention and continues on.

What I WISH would happen is that he continues as the candidate. I believe he will continue to screw up.

Mr Maru

(216 posts)
45. They need all those mouth-breathers following him
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

around to stick around or they ALL lose their jobs.

What is the plausibility of Trump being capable of having the self restraint to keep quiet about a deal like that?

What are the chances that anyone with that kind of money would be dumb enough to go in on such a deal & trust Trump to follow through AND keep quit about an illegal deal?

The mouth-breathers would absolutely lose their shit - they wouldn't just walk out of the party, they would set on fire, stab it in the heart and take scalps on the way out.

Hardly worth the risk when they can simply let him lose, and then just explain that he was obviously never really a republican anyway, and try again next time.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
40. He doesn't quit, unless it's
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jun 2016

Trump University
Trying to build something where he's not wanted
Trump Water
The list goes on and on.

Call the man what you will, and i call him plenty, but he knows when to cut losses.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
12. Never gonna happen. He loves the limelight. His ego would never allow him to quit. Also,
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

even as a lost prez candidate, it would open him up to huge book deals, speaking fees, etc. even bigger than he may already have.

He is IT, period.,

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
15. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jun 2016

Once he has been convinced he will lose, he'll pack his bags and hit the road.

He cannot stand losing.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
19. Nope nope nope to your "nope nope nope". He's sure he will win. He will not go out a "quitter".
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jun 2016

He beat sixteen opponents to win that nomination. Do you honestly think he'll quit now? Never, ever, ever gonna happen. Please, enough of this.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. But the other side of his absurd personality is that he can't stand to be embarrassed.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jun 2016

When it's finally proven that he really is nearly broke, the only way to can get away from this 'other form of kryptonite' is to call everyone liars and leave.

It's going to be interesting to watch these 2 parts of his psyche go to war with one another: "never a quitter" versus public embarrassment on a scale unseen in modern times.

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
26. And the avoid public embarrassment option will also
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:10 AM
Jun 2016

Come with lots of $ to withdraw from Adelson, Kochs, etc.

Mr Maru

(216 posts)
44. I think he would rather stay in on a shoestring
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jun 2016

Budget & blame the entire Republican establishment if he loses than bow out. Too much ego. He won't drop out.

renate

(13,776 posts)
46. I think you're right
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 06:03 PM
Jun 2016

He'll be like me, the way I used to pretend to sprain an ankle before PE class. Once Election Day is around the corner and it's obvious he's going to lose, he'll sprain an ankle and withdraw from the race. Which means I hope his VP choice is as ridiculous as he is.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
5. I totally agree
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jun 2016

If they pulled any kind of switch at the convention, his idiot followers would start a war on the spot, and many of those idiots will be carrying weapons, it wouldn't be a great idea to piss them off by taking the nomination away from him. There have already been at least to different morons telling his supporters to use violence against any protesters against Trump. These people are crazy enough to do anything, including using their guns.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
6. "His "YUGE" ego would never allow him to do that"
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jun 2016

Trump has a severe personality disorder. His future behavior, especially in the face of tremendous opposition, cannot be predicted.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
8. I've thought for weeks now that trump will not end up being the nominee.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jun 2016

Maybe months....

I just.....no not..............believe t.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
10. Dont be so sure
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

Rachel Maddow reported last night that the delegate revolt had reached 400. In only one week its exploded.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
20. If they succeed in adding a clause
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:03 AM
Jun 2016

that allows delegates to vote their conscience on the first ballot then all bets are off. Interesting stuff.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
28. True. But if they try and pull that stunt and put Jeb Bush in his place, all hell is going to break
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jun 2016

loose. Then Trump can threaten to go third-party, knowing his rabid followers will follow him.

Don't forget - he's gotten more votes in the primaries than any other Repub candidate in GOP history.

The only way I see King-Con Don drop out is if billionaires offer him a sum to do so that he can't refuse. They've already offered $150M but that's peanuts for a guy like him. I'm certain if they offered him $1B, he'll change his mind. It's always all about the $$ for this guy. He's marketing his name and his title as the Republican presumptive nominee and he's gonna want a hefty price for those.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
35. Well
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jun 2016

I will have my popcorn ready! Never thought a republican convention would ever be must see TV for me but this year it is.

The idea of taking hundreds of millions to NOT take a job is a hard one for me to contemplate in my lousy temp job but I am trying.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
37. Hah! You and me BOTH.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jun 2016


The idea of taking hundreds of millions to NOT take a job is a hard one for me to contemplate in my lousy temp job but I am trying.


The biggest prize to win in this country is the White House, and Trump is going to want the biggest buyout. It's what frightened me the most about this guy. If he stays true to his business model, and if by some miracle he won the presidency, he'd sell it piece by piece, one department after the other, to the highest bidder - just like Cheney and G.W. did, and U.$. M$M will white-wash the whole thing, as they did with Cheney and G.W.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
18. Winning the primary was the easy part.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jun 2016

That was just the beginning of the story. He ran against a pathetic gaggle of loons and crackpots.

He's done, it's just a matter of when he exits.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
25. Oh how I wish we could bet on this. I would take your money in a heartbeat. He is NOT quitting.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jun 2016

First, he had many strong opponents such as Rubio and Kasich. Ted Cruz was an ultra right winger also very popular in their base who beat him in a good number of contests. Kasich, Rubio, Jeb Bush, George Pataki, etc. are not "crackpots."

It is true that the winner take all system in the R party helped him win with pluralities. But he defied the odds BIGTIME to win that primary. He will not now just chuck all that and walk away from a fight with Hillary Clinton and all her surrogates like Warren. If he did he knows he would go down in history as the KING OF QUITTERS AND WEAKLINGS.

That will never, ever happen in a million years.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
29. Agree - the GOP will not replace him
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jun 2016

The only thing that will get him out is a health or family crisis. Otherwise all the trumpets will go insane.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
30. It's idiotic to think ANYTHING is written in stone when it comes to the
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jun 2016

unhinged, narcissistic, undisciplined, tRUMP.

I

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
32. Yep. He won the primaries with more votes than any other Repub in GOP history. The only way to be
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jun 2016

rid of him, I believe, is to offer him a YUGE sum of money - something like $1 billion (Kochs were planning on investing nearly that much in order to buy the White House). Maybe even $2 billion or more, knowing his immense ego and knowing that he's got something the moneyed RWers and Libertarian billionaires desperately want.

Remember...Trump is a marketing genius. He knows what his audience wants.

He's just waiting for their offer. If they don't offer, he'll continue to damage the Republican Party and take them down as he goes down. I don't see him losing those delegates at the Repub Convention because if the GOP tries to steal the nomination from him after he's been called the presumptive nominee by all media, all hell is going to break loose.

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
36. Doesn't matter what happens. The GOP is screwed either way.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jun 2016

To salvage anything, Trump would need to do a total makeup. That still won't save them.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
38. GOP has spent years and years courting racists and those who are against political correctness
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jun 2016

While at the same time selling their base's economic interests out.

Now they have a candidate who appeals to both the racism and xenophobia and their economic interests, or at least says he does.

Trump most truly represents the base that the GOP has created, but now we have the GOP calling him out over his racism and sexism? When we know they are really worried about his stance on trade and Social Security.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
39. It can only be purposeful
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jun 2016

I guess part of me believes that no one can destroy his campaign as he has done, without doing it on purpose. Also, the whole money thing and lack of ad buying in swing states is suspicious. And, Ryan has been putting out his platforms and been everywhere on the news...as the reasonable republican.

It is all so suspicious. I do agree that I am not considering his supporters.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
41. I donno.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jun 2016

Trump might be given an "Offer he can't Refuse", and quietly let the Republicans appoint a candidate at the convention.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
47. I tend to agree, but why not wait until the convention to be so definite?
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jun 2016

It isn't that far away. Chill.


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