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BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
1. The link just goes to Bernie's Twitter, which means there's not even an effort to prove this claim.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jul 2016

Wow.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
13. Why would you say that? Democratic supporters are particularly uniformed?
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 07:03 AM
Jul 2016

I would expect to hear the allegation that Democrats are uniformed partisans on TPP, from a conservative forum (since the majority of republicans oppose TPP), but not here at DU.

All Democrats are entitled to an opinion on all issues and have a right to have those opinions heard in party platform discussions. Perhaps their opinion on TPP is based more on a general support for global engagement in opposition to a rising isolationism on the right rather than on the specifics of the agreement. Who knows?

The idea that we have a 'better informed' elite who should be more influential seems un-democratic to me. When a majority of Democrats don't agree with us on an issue it is uncomfortable, but I see no reason to exclude their opinion because I (or anyone else) is 'better informed' than our 'unwashed majority'.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
14. Not sure about the other poster's source. Here's one about trade agreements in general.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 07:22 AM
Jul 2016


Republicans, especially Trump supporters, see free trade deals as bad for U.S.

A new Pew Research Center survey finds that criticism of trade deals in general is particularly strong among Republican and Republican-leaning supporters of GOP presidential contender Donald Trump who are registered voters. Americans ages 65 and older and men, especially white men, stand out among this group. Although Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders have both come out against TPP, majorities of their supporters believe trade agreements have been good for the country.

Views of U.S. free trade agreements are more positive among Democratic and Democratic-leaning respondents (60% good thing vs. 30% bad thing) than Republican and Republican-leaners (40% good thing vs. 52% bad thing).

Among registered Republican voters, Trump supporters stand out for their negative view of free trade: 67% of Trump supporters say free trade agreements have been a bad thing for the U.S., while just 27% say they have been a good thing. Republican supporters of Ted Cruz (48% good thing vs. 40% bad thing) and John Kasich (44% good thing vs. 46% bad thing) hold more mixed views.

By a 58% to 31% margin, more Clinton supporters among registered Democrats say free trade agreements have been a good thing than a bad thing for the U.S. Views among Democratic backers of Sanders are similar (55% good thing vs. 38% bad thing).

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/03/31/republicans-especially-trump-supporters-see-free-trade-deals-as-bad-for-u-s/

This poll was back in March and did not address the TPP specifically so that might have yielded a different result.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
15. The majority of Congressional Democrats were opposed to the Invasion of Iraq.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jul 2016

Fat lot of good that did us.

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