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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:17 AM Jul 2016

FBI Director revises stance, says none of Hillary Clinton’s emails were classified at the time

Good day for Hillary overall.



FBI Director revises stance, says none of Hillary Clinton’s emails were classified at the time


http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fbi-director-revises-stance-says-none-of-hillary-clintons-emails-were-classified-at-the-time/25110/


By Bill Palmer | July 7, 2016


The day after the Director of the FBI claimed that Hillary Clinton received classified emails on her personal email server before concluding that she violated no laws and would face no charges, a State Department spokesman contradicted him, stating that the emails in question had been improperly marked to begin with and therefore she did nothing wrong (something we reported last night). This morning, as the Director was being interrogated by House Republicans over his findings, one of the Democrats on the committee pointed out the discrepancy. This prompted him to revise his stance on the matter.

Even as the Republicans spent the day suggesting to FBI Director James Comey’s face that he either failed to properly look into Hillary Clinton’s use of email or outright rigged the matter in her favor, he confidently shot down their conspiracies one after another, likely causing them to regret having hauled him in to begin with. But it was a House Democrat who finally asked Comey about the new State Department assertion that the emails in question were improperly marked.

The FBI Director responded by revising and clarifying his assessment, acknowledging that of the three email in question (originally reported as two emails by the New York Times), there were errors their classification markings which had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton and therefore could not have been her fault.
This came as he also made that clear Clinton voluntarily cooperated with every aspect of the inquiry, and that to the best of his knowledge, she was truthful throughout the matter...........................

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FBI Director revises stance, says none of Hillary Clinton’s emails were classified at the time (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2016 OP
KICK! Cha Jul 2016 #1
Hillary doesn't need to address this issue any further. A witch hunt oasis Jul 2016 #2
Brian Fallon has but I do not think Hillary has-which is good IMHO riversedge Jul 2016 #3
MSNBC's blanket negative and dishonest anti-HRC Hortensis Jul 2016 #4
Their coverage was awful on Wednesday. DURHAM D Jul 2016 #27
REC riversedge Jul 2016 #5
BackFIRE! Hahahahahah!!!!! Her Sister Jul 2016 #6
Again, that's not true at all. More than a hundred emails were classified at the time. DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #7
Read this DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #8
It's the content of the emails that make them classified. The markings are irrelevant. DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #10
Here are the facts DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #11
From Comey's speech transatlantica Jul 2016 #15
When he was UNDER OATH DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #18
no contradiction here transatlantica Jul 2016 #22
The originating agency did not send them as classified DURHAM D Jul 2016 #28
*sigh* transatlantica Jul 2016 #31
This has been my angle all along. joshcryer Jul 2016 #34
People are focusing on the 3 marked emails and not the 100+ emails NWCorona Jul 2016 #9
Please read Peter Daou's post, which dealt with the 110 emails spooky3 Jul 2016 #12
I'll pass on anything dealing with Brock. Thanks tho NWCorona Jul 2016 #14
Then you are missing some important info. spooky3 Jul 2016 #19
Possible NWCorona Jul 2016 #20
I will take a 110 email error over a 5 million email error any day of the week. nt cstanleytech Jul 2016 #24
110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains were wriiten by career diplomats BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #32
Yes those. Are you saying that it's not a bad thing? NWCorona Jul 2016 #33
the diplomats and foreign service officers who wrote the emails comments BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #35
That doesn't absolve Hillary. NWCorona Jul 2016 #36
Classified, unclassified...what's the difference? Orsino Jul 2016 #13
The truth finally laces up its shoelaces. Possibly too late, though. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #16
Is there any mainstream media that carries Comey's revised comments ? OnDoutside Jul 2016 #17
Should be on FB and witter and YouTube. That's the only MSM that works anymore. nt Jitter65 Jul 2016 #23
good question hertopos Jul 2016 #21
Why is this news item so hard to find? Ducksworthy Jul 2016 #25
Now it's time to move on to murderous white cops WhiteTara Jul 2016 #26
You do know cops come in ll colors. 840high Jul 2016 #29
Name of policeman 840high Jul 2016 #30
K&R betsuni Jul 2016 #37

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. MSNBC's blanket negative and dishonest anti-HRC
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jul 2016

coverage on Wednesday was walked back somewhat on Thursday, with less distortion and more things mentioned that weren't the first day. Didn't watch CNN, but there must have been backlash from somewhere.

And on top of that now comes Comey's underlining media lies with repeated testimony. Hopefully this will keep the MSM from returning to full attack. On this subject at least.

I hope no one realizes how stupid having the FBI PROVE Hillary never lied to Congress during testimony would be on top of this.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
27. Their coverage was awful on Wednesday.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jul 2016

Steve K totally sullied Rachel's show as he had a fact free hour of bs.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
7. Again, that's not true at all. More than a hundred emails were classified at the time.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:27 AM
Jul 2016

Why does this lie keep getting posted?

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
10. It's the content of the emails that make them classified. The markings are irrelevant.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:56 AM
Jul 2016

Before you can get access to classified material you are trained to recognize it. MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED EMAILS WERE CLASSIFIED AT THE TIME. That is a fact.

 

transatlantica

(49 posts)
15. From Comey's speech
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jul 2016

"For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation."

 

transatlantica

(49 posts)
22. no contradiction here
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jul 2016

We're talking about two different sets of emails.

Your link refers to the three marked (if not properly marked) emails. My quote refers to the unmarked top secret emails sent or received by Clinton that she should have recognized as classified material but apparently failed to do so.



DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
28. The originating agency did not send them as classified
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jul 2016

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or see them as classified until years later.

It was not SOS's job to do their classification for them in real time.

The fairy ain't coming.

This just isn't that hard.

 

transatlantica

(49 posts)
31. *sigh*
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jul 2016

An email doesn't have to be graded as "classified" by the sender to be classified; depending on the content, an email gets the "classified" status automatically at the moment is is sent/received. That's obviously the case for the seven Top Secret emails Comey was talking about (my quote above). And that's why he faults Clinton for not realizing "that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation".

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
34. This has been my angle all along.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:08 PM
Jul 2016

Stuff isn't classified until someone does it.

The only thing is about the emails to the Egyptian ambassador, which quickly went to more secure channels, and there was no evidence they were negligent. They used an improper channel likely instigated by the ambassador.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
9. People are focusing on the 3 marked emails and not the 100+ emails
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:53 AM
Jul 2016

That were classified at the time sent or received.

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
32. 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains were wriiten by career diplomats
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jul 2016
110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
35. the diplomats and foreign service officers who wrote the emails comments
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 12:16 AM
Jul 2016

The goverment has too many secerts, 2,000,000 since 2000, 50,000 last year

“If experienced diplomats and foreign service officers are doing it, the issue is more how the State Department deals with information in the modern world more than something specific about what Hillary Clinton did,” said Philip H. Gordon, who was assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs and was the author of 45 of the sensitive emails from his non-classified government account.

Still, some diplomats who have reviewed their emails that have now been classified have expressed puzzlement. Several said in interviews that they thought the State Department’s review process relied on an overly broad interpretation of ­public-records laws that restrict release of certain information involving relations with foreign governments.

They said they never stripped classified markings from documents to send them through regular email, as Republicans have alleged occurred in Clinton’s correspondence.

Instead, they said, the emails largely reflect real-time information shared with them by foreign government officials using their own insecure email accounts or open phone lines, or in public places such as hotel lobbies where it could have been overheard.

In other emails, they said they purposely wrote in generalities. Numerous emails were labeled “Sensitive But Unclassified,” indicating those writing did not think the note was classified.

Former ambassador Dennis Ross, who has held key diplomatic posts in administrations of both parties, said that one of his exchanges now marked “secret” contained information that government officials last year allowed him to publish in a book.

The emails relate to a back-channel negotiation he opened between Israelis and Palestinians after he left the government in 2011.

“What I was doing was communicating a gist — not being very specific, but a gist. If I felt the need to be more specific, we could arrange a meeting,” Ross said.

Princeton Lyman, a State Department veteran who served under presidents of both parties and was a special envoy to Sudan when Clinton was secretary of state, said he has been surprised and a bit embarrassed to learn that emails he wrote have been classified. He said he had learned through decades of experience how to identify and transmit classified information.

“The day-to-day kind of reporting I did about what happened in negotiations did not include information I considered classified,” he said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-private-server-wrote-104-emails-the-government-says-are-classified/2016/03/05/11e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
36. That doesn't absolve Hillary.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jul 2016


The authors of the classified emails aren't known so it would be safe to assume they thought the SoS email was safe. Also Hillary should have filed spillage reports for those born classified emails.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. Classified, unclassified...what's the difference?
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jul 2016

He's only the FBI Director, and can't be bothered with fine distinctions like that.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
16. The truth finally laces up its shoelaces. Possibly too late, though.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jul 2016

Even ostensible liberal outlets like the Daily Show and Nightly Show ran with the lie right away, and the truth isn't glamorous enough to cover in subsequent episodes.

Ducksworthy

(55 posts)
25. Why is this news item so hard to find?
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jul 2016

I am having a very hard time finding any reference to Comey's revision. His earlier testimony is all over the web.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
26. Now it's time to move on to murderous white cops
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jul 2016

who kill at the drop of a hat...maybe that is even too long a time period for some of them.

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