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Good day for Hillary overall.
FBI Director revises stance, says none of Hillary Clintons emails were classified at the time
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fbi-director-revises-stance-says-none-of-hillary-clintons-emails-were-classified-at-the-time/25110/
By Bill Palmer | July 7, 2016
The day after the Director of the FBI claimed that Hillary Clinton received classified emails on her personal email server before concluding that she violated no laws and would face no charges, a State Department spokesman contradicted him, stating that the emails in question had been improperly marked to begin with and therefore she did nothing wrong (something we reported last night). This morning, as the Director was being interrogated by House Republicans over his findings, one of the Democrats on the committee pointed out the discrepancy. This prompted him to revise his stance on the matter.
Even as the Republicans spent the day suggesting to FBI Director James Comeys face that he either failed to properly look into Hillary Clintons use of email or outright rigged the matter in her favor, he confidently shot down their conspiracies one after another, likely causing them to regret having hauled him in to begin with. But it was a House Democrat who finally asked Comey about the new State Department assertion that the emails in question were improperly marked.
The FBI Director responded by revising and clarifying his assessment, acknowledging that of the three email in question (originally reported as two emails by the New York Times), there were errors their classification markings which had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton and therefore could not have been her fault. This came as he also made that clear Clinton voluntarily cooperated with every aspect of the inquiry, and that to the best of his knowledge, she was truthful throughout the matter...........................
oasis
(49,389 posts)from the very beginning.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)coverage on Wednesday was walked back somewhat on Thursday, with less distortion and more things mentioned that weren't the first day. Didn't watch CNN, but there must have been backlash from somewhere.
And on top of that now comes Comey's underlining media lies with repeated testimony. Hopefully this will keep the MSM from returning to full attack. On this subject at least.
I hope no one realizes how stupid having the FBI PROVE Hillary never lied to Congress during testimony would be on top of this.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Steve K totally sullied Rachel's show as he had a fact free hour of bs.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)F.A.I.L. !!
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)Why does this lie keep getting posted?
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)Before you can get access to classified material you are trained to recognize it. MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED EMAILS WERE CLASSIFIED AT THE TIME. That is a fact.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)as presented by Director Comey's testimony yesterday
article
http://thedailybanter.com/2016/07/fbi-director-admits-that-zero-hillary-clinton-emails-were-marked-classified/
this comment which further show what happened (part of the Q and A)
http://thedailybanter.com/2016/07/fbi-director-admits-that-zero-hillary-clinton-emails-were-marked-classified/#comment-2771861260
transatlantica
(49 posts)"For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clintons position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation."
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)He said something quite different.
transatlantica
(49 posts)We're talking about two different sets of emails.
Your link refers to the three marked (if not properly marked) emails. My quote refers to the unmarked top secret emails sent or received by Clinton that she should have recognized as classified material but apparently failed to do so.
DURHAM D
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or see them as classified until years later.
It was not SOS's job to do their classification for them in real time.
The fairy ain't coming.
This just isn't that hard.
transatlantica
(49 posts)An email doesn't have to be graded as "classified" by the sender to be classified; depending on the content, an email gets the "classified" status automatically at the moment is is sent/received. That's obviously the case for the seven Top Secret emails Comey was talking about (my quote above). And that's why he faults Clinton for not realizing "that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation".
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Stuff isn't classified until someone does it.
The only thing is about the emails to the Egyptian ambassador, which quickly went to more secure channels, and there was no evidence they were negligent. They used an improper channel likely instigated by the ambassador.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)That were classified at the time sent or received.
spooky3
(34,458 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)spooky3
(34,458 posts)cstanleytech
(26,295 posts)BlueStateLib
(937 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)BlueStateLib
(937 posts)The goverment has too many secerts, 2,000,000 since 2000, 50,000 last year
Still, some diplomats who have reviewed their emails that have now been classified have expressed puzzlement. Several said in interviews that they thought the State Departments review process relied on an overly broad interpretation of public-records laws that restrict release of certain information involving relations with foreign governments.
They said they never stripped classified markings from documents to send them through regular email, as Republicans have alleged occurred in Clintons correspondence.
Instead, they said, the emails largely reflect real-time information shared with them by foreign government officials using their own insecure email accounts or open phone lines, or in public places such as hotel lobbies where it could have been overheard.
In other emails, they said they purposely wrote in generalities. Numerous emails were labeled Sensitive But Unclassified, indicating those writing did not think the note was classified.
Former ambassador Dennis Ross, who has held key diplomatic posts in administrations of both parties, said that one of his exchanges now marked secret contained information that government officials last year allowed him to publish in a book.
The emails relate to a back-channel negotiation he opened between Israelis and Palestinians after he left the government in 2011.
What I was doing was communicating a gist not being very specific, but a gist. If I felt the need to be more specific, we could arrange a meeting, Ross said.
Princeton Lyman, a State Department veteran who served under presidents of both parties and was a special envoy to Sudan when Clinton was secretary of state, said he has been surprised and a bit embarrassed to learn that emails he wrote have been classified. He said he had learned through decades of experience how to identify and transmit classified information.
The day-to-day kind of reporting I did about what happened in negotiations did not include information I considered classified, he said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-private-server-wrote-104-emails-the-government-says-are-classified/2016/03/05/11e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)The authors of the classified emails aren't known so it would be safe to assume they thought the SoS email was safe. Also Hillary should have filed spillage reports for those born classified emails.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)He's only the FBI Director, and can't be bothered with fine distinctions like that.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Even ostensible liberal outlets like the Daily Show and Nightly Show ran with the lie right away, and the truth isn't glamorous enough to cover in subsequent episodes.
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)hertopos
(833 posts)So far, as far as I see, the answer is no.
Hertopos
Ducksworthy
(55 posts)I am having a very hard time finding any reference to Comey's revision. His earlier testimony is all over the web.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)who kill at the drop of a hat...maybe that is even too long a time period for some of them.
840high
(17,196 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Officer Jeronimo Yanez