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Please Baby Jesus---let it be Warren. (Original Post) trumad Jul 2016 OP
I think we will kill it downline this year. I think we can spare her for vp. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #1
I believe that Warren would energize and boost interest in all downticket Democratic candidates. Koinos Jul 2016 #2
Totally agree! As veep, she can energize and influence downtickets. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #6
Two white women in their late sixties? Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #3
Yup. Even enemies noted the special electricity Hortensis Jul 2016 #21
Biden was no youngster. Koinos Jul 2016 #26
Yes but the president was in his 40's. yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #28
John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Koinos Jul 2016 #30
My first post on DU... Expecting Rain Jul 2016 #4
Welcome to DU! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #7
Welcome to DU! livetohike Jul 2016 #14
Welcome to DU! pnwmom Jul 2016 #19
Welcome, but better be prepared for rain. :) Hortensis Jul 2016 #22
But who will take her place in the Senate????? Keep Elizabeth in the Senate!!!! marble falls Jul 2016 #29
expecting rain? MFM008 Jul 2016 #38
She is wonderful, but yes, we need her in the Senate. Xavier Becerra for VP lunamagica Jul 2016 #5
Hillary needs her nt DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #8
She could be such an asset to the Dems winning the Senate. I'm torn cause I think she would help applegrove Jul 2016 #9
What power does the VP really hold? puffy socks Jul 2016 #13
She could take on financial and trade regulations. She could do anything really. applegrove Jul 2016 #16
A VP holds as much or as little power as the president allows. Koinos Jul 2016 #24
But they can't write legislation and can't vote and can't be on committees puffy socks Jul 2016 #25
Cheney AntiBank Jul 2016 #34
I thought Bidens recent comments about CanadaexPat Jul 2016 #32
The office of vice president has evolved. Koinos Jul 2016 #37
Constitutionally that is true, but if you follow that line of thought.... Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #33
I think she is the perfect advocate. DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #18
I know! ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #10
Who would Dems run for the Senate to replace her? puffy socks Jul 2016 #11
How about a young Kennedy? Looks good to me. Koinos Jul 2016 #17
But are they wanting to run for office? puffy socks Jul 2016 #20
Her seat's pretty secure for a Democrat. Hortensis Jul 2016 #23
I just think it would be so *ballsy*. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2016 #12
I think there are two Hillaries: Koinos Jul 2016 #15
I get the feeling she will pull out all the stops as president too, but I am thinking Squinch Jul 2016 #35
With regard to that, see the link in Post #31. Koinos Jul 2016 #39
I did see that and it gave me hope. I would LOVE to see Warren as VP. Squinch Jul 2016 #40
Me too. Koinos Jul 2016 #43
She's talking first day pretty much counts her out yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #27
Not true trumad Jul 2016 #31
Wow. Cool. She is changing the script. yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #36
Won't happen. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2016 #41
Warren bring SO MANY votes to the table. Kaine and Vilsack bring ZERO. Vote2016 Jul 2016 #42

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. Two white women in their late sixties?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jul 2016

First, I think the ticket needs more balance. And second, Hillary's VP should be young enough to serve two full terms as president from 2024 to 2032.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Yup. Even enemies noted the special electricity
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jul 2016

of the two of them on the stump together. I'll be very sorry if it's not Warren, but Rachel's very possibly right in her suspicion that the scheduling of only one speaker, Warren, was leaked to the press to start letting those who want a Clinton-Warren ticket down easily.

Unlike those who hoped for a major Sanders-lead disruption of the convention and were shocked and feeling betrayed at being "blindsided" by his endorsement, most of us can pick up on a clue.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
26. Biden was no youngster.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jul 2016

And how many vice presidents have ended up as presidents?

The presidency is not a matter of succession.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
30. John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jul 2016

Age is not the issue. It would be highly unlikely for both the president and vice president to die at the same time. In the event that a VP has to take over, he appoints his own new VP.

Come to think of it, how many presidents have died of natural causes while in office? And how old were their vice presidents at the time?

We tend to think of vice presidents as future presidents nowadays, but how many vice presidents have gone on to become presidents immediately following their predecessor's term?

In fact, it is usually the case that the presidency changes parties after two consecutive terms. When Hillary wins, she will be breaking that pattern.

ETA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Vice_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_age

applegrove

(118,829 posts)
9. She could be such an asset to the Dems winning the Senate. I'm torn cause I think she would help
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jul 2016

be an asset as a vp for Hillary too. Tough decision.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
13. What power does the VP really hold?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jul 2016

They take over for the president in case of impeachment or death. They are the deciding vote in the Senate as the senate President.

I don't think it's wise to waste her talents just for the sake of the GE. If they win the GE what is her role the entire rest of Clinton's term?

applegrove

(118,829 posts)
16. She could take on financial and trade regulations. She could do anything really.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jul 2016

Study it. Make recommendations to Democrats in Congress. The world economy is changing fast enough that Warren would be kept really busy doing those two things at a global level.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
24. A VP holds as much or as little power as the president allows.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jul 2016

Biden became Obama's closest advisor and a dear friend.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
25. But they can't write legislation and can't vote and can't be on committees
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jul 2016

correct? I still think it's a step down.

CanadaexPat

(496 posts)
32. I thought Bidens recent comments about
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jul 2016

The President having to delegate a lot because there's just too much to do were telling - the Veep is no longer just a warm body but in many cases almost a co-president. The President is still in charge but gives the Veep a lot of authority in different areas.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
37. The office of vice president has evolved.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jul 2016

It is not longer a merely ceremonial post. You can be sure that Elizabeth Warren's expertise would be well used by Hillary.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
33. Constitutionally that is true, but if you follow that line of thought....
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jul 2016

then what power does/did the First Lady hold? Far less than a VP.

In recent history, the VP has been chief adviser for the President. He/She is also the most power spokesperson for the President both at home and abroad.

Warren would be a good choice but I doubt it will be her.



 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
20. But are they wanting to run for office?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jul 2016

because it's not like Warren just replaced a progressive, she replaced Tea Bag Scott Brown. Massachusetts needs another Progressive that can win.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Her seat's pretty secure for a Democrat.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jul 2016

There are various people most don't know who could run. That really wouldn't be a problem or she wouldn't have been a consideration in the first place.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
15. I think there are two Hillaries:
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jul 2016

One Hillary will follow conventional "wisdom" and pick a dull or relatively unknown male who is not a senator from a state with a Republican governor. She will pick someone who is "safe" and will not appear to upstage her.

The other Hillary will "go for it," pull out all the stops, and pick an emotional and intellectual hurricane like Warren.

I'm betting my money on Hillary #2. She is not the person many people believe her to be. She is ready to do earth-shaking things as president, and Warren will help her do that. When she is elected, former naysayers will be very, very surprised.

Squinch

(51,025 posts)
35. I get the feeling she will pull out all the stops as president too, but I am thinking
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:32 PM
Jul 2016

Liz's speaking slot precludes her.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
39. With regard to that, see the link in Post #31.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jul 2016

The lineup of speakers can and will be adjusted after Hillary makes her decision and announcement.

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