Kasich: I Can't Ban Open Carry at RNC

[DonViejo]

Ohio Gov. John Kasich's office tells The Daily Beast he cannot ban open carry of firearms at the Republican convention in Cleveland. "Law enforcement is a noble, essential calling and we all grieve that we've again seen attacks on officers," spokeswoman Emmalee Kalmbach said in a statement. "Ohio governors do not have the power to arbitrarily suspend federal and state constitutional rights or state laws as suggested." Hours earlier, the president of the Cleveland police union asked Kasich to ban all open carrying of weapons in Cuyahoga County after six police officers were shot in Baton Rouge on Sunday morning, three of them fatally.

— Jackie Kucinich

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/17/kasich-i-can-t-ban-open-carry-at-rnc.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

[chillfactor]

1. then expect a great deal of trouble Kasich......

your state, your city.....

[glennward]

28. Maybe he is hoping... nt

[AgingAmerican]

34. And his ideology

[AgingAmerican]

2. They shall reap what they have sown

[zenabby]

3. I agree with Kasich

I mean - if it's a constitutional right, how can it be banned for a couple of days, based on my convenience or my specific fear? I know what they should do - they should have more good police with guns to destroy the bad people with guns.

Or they can basically have more gun regulation and control, have laws to prevent bad people from buying guns, get rid of open carry and assault rifles, and generally make it safe for everyone - not just the police and people around RNC for a couple of days.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

42. It's a good thing that Constitutional rights and laws can't be arbitrarily suspended

Isn't that the sort of "Tyranny" that the right is forever accusing Obama of- even though he hasn't done anything of the sort? Glad to hear that Kasich isn't going along with it (but Republicans- those lovers of "freedom" and "opposers of tyranny"- would have gone after him if he had, right? Right?)

[Iliyah]

4. At the RNC? My undestanding that they have a fence and nobody can bring a weapon.

The NRA-RNC are afraid of their own bullshit.

[bluedye33139]

6. I assumed the request was for outside the convention

I assumed the police union was recommending that open carry be banned in the environs around the convention, and that would be fully impossible for reasons Kasich states.

I hate him, but if I understand this situation, he's factually correct, no matter how evil and wrong in general.

[coco77]

44. They can't take away..

their civil rights.

[ladym55]

21. No guns in Quicken Loans Arena where the convention is

Those are the rules set by the Secret Service. Outside that area where the protestors gather, there are many restrictions, but open carry is permitted. So no tennis balls or metal tipped umbrellas, but the AR-15 is fine.

This situation is brought to you by a gerrymandered Republican legislature in Ohio that has worked overtime to make guns more accessible to Ohio's citizens, while allowing education, public health, and job growth die on the vine.

Republican delegates will be bringing their weapons, but not to the floor of the convention. They WILL be carrying when they go out to enjoy the region's bars until 4:00 am. I'm sure all will be just fine.

[krispos42]

5. Open carry was a backlash against states that...

...were against issuing concealed-carry permits. Some people are driven to the fainting couch by the idea that non-police might be carrying guns in their vicinity. Then they got all Maude Flanders when people began carrying openly.

One DUer even advocated for calling the cops every time someone was spied open-carrying, and another said that restaurant patrons should immediate and quickly vacate (without paying) if someone open-carrying walked in.

I am a person that thinks open-carry should be illegal within city limits, but that concealed-carry penis should be reasonably easy to get.

Out of sight, out of mind.


Ah well, if Bush was going to the convention, they could declare it special security zone or something. Seems the GOP managed to flub this process so badly the Bush is as ashamed of the GOP as the GOP is ashamed of him!

[tblue37]

12. You have a very funny autocorrect typo in your post. At least I am guessing it is an autocorrect

typo and that the intended phrasing was "open carry permit":

"I am a person that thinks open-carry should be illegal within city limits, but that concealed-carry penis should be reasonably easy to get."

[MineralMan]

15. Oops.

I saw that, too. Open carry penis? I don't know. I prefer carrying concealed in pubic {sic}.
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[Hortensis]

18. Lol. But at least we can agree it should be easy to get?

[MineralMan]

22. Well, in an emergency situation...

of course. Such circumstances require things to be well in hand.

[Hortensis]

23. My husband agrees.

[tblue37]

25. Best part (no pun intended) is that the post hasn't been edited to rerplace "penis" with

"permit"! Maybe it isn't a typo after all.

[Dem2]

17. I read "permit"

Until I saw your post.

Funny how the brain fills in what it thinks should be there.

[krispos42]

27. Goddsmmitsomuch

*sigh*

Well, I'll leave it, I guess.

[tblue37]

37. Yes, please do. Without it the funny subthread loses its oomph. nt

[NCTraveler]

39. And that about covers it.

"but that concealed-carry penis should be reasonably easy to get. "

No doubt it stems from inadequacy.

[krispos42]

41. Ah, yes, the shiny metal penis jokes.

Now explain to the class how the joke does or does not denigrates the millions of women that shoot guns.

[NCTraveler]

43. Let me know when gun toting Trump gets raped leaving his office.

I don't think guns have anything to do with what's in the briefs. Sorry you took it so personal.

[krispos42]

45. Awww, so only women are too weak to defend themselves without a crutch

Got it.

Men should be able to defend themselves without a gun. Got that too.

[NCTraveler]

46. Ok.

[AgadorSparticus]

7. Laws are not there for our convenience where we can suspend at will.

[doc03]

8. All of a sudden I hear all these Republicans wanting to take

our 2nd Amendment rights away when they have their convention in Ohio.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Sounds like a lack of leadership, to me.

Ooops, those were Trump's exact words, weren't they?

[bluestateguy]

10. I think the police will just arrest anybody who is open carrying anyway, and ask questions later.

and then let a judge throw the charges out later on, and settle any lawsuits that result.

[JI7]

11. where are all the"blue lives matter" people ?

[cheyanne]

13. The rights can't be suspended by the governor, but what about the President?

At the first sign of violence, can a state of emergency be instituted and the area cleared of all people?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

19. I suppose he can declare Martial Law ...

... and put the city under control of the Army.

[MoonRiver]

14. Republicans reap what they sow.

[Vinca]

16. Exactly. They value their guns over human life and now they get to be part of the experiment.

I'm just sorry the Secret Service is keeping guns out of the convention hall.

[MoonRiver]

24. Yes. I don't wish gun violence on anyone, but you just can't fix stupid.

[SwankyXomb]

32. You CAN fix stupid

It's just that most of the methods are highly illegal.

[TheBlackAdder]

20. Gee... It almost sounds like the GOPers are afraid of a few New Black Panthers open carrying.

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It's funny how the tide turns, and so very predictable.


Of course, they don't want to say that the NBPs have anything to do with this new security concern.


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[bigwillq]

26. Good.

Laws are laws. Don't like them? Work to change them.

[still_one]

29. Actually they can. All they have to do is say "no guns allowed'. They don't need to change

any laws, and it doesn't violate any laws.

A business, facility, or group can legally say that in the Convention hall no guns allowed.

[womanofthehills]

30. Actually, no guns are allowed in the Convention hall

[still_one]

31. The impression I got fro the OP was that they were talking about the convention hall

[John Poet]

35. In the area controlled by the Secret Service, guns are not allowed.

In a larger "events" area surrounding that, guns will be allowed--
but no air rifles, air pistols, paint-ball guns, fireworks, blasting caps, lumber and other items from a list of 72 things which are not allowed in the convention "events" area.... according to an explanation I heard on the radio...

[still_one]

38. thanks for details

[Demsrule86]

40. Here in Ohio under that supposed 'moderate',

you can sling an AR 15 over your shoulder with a scope...you don't need to be close with such a weapon...and the cops are figuring out what I have said for years...bad people are not tattooed on their foreheads...how do you know who is dangerous?

[AgingAmerican]

33. They can't get the genie back in the bottle

All the king's horses and all the king's men...

[DonCoquixote]

36. Mr. kasich , thank you

for revealing to us why you were SO UNFIT for the Oval office. If you kiss arse this bad at the convention, who knows what you would have done at 1600 pa ave.

[jcgoldie]

47. Concealed carry penis

Definately the way to go. There's already far too many dicks on the floor of that auditorium.