2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis poor lady can't even speak with the teleprompter's help.
I already miss Mrs. Obama.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)better than Rudi..
840high
(17,196 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)It's THE STORY of the hour--turn on MSNBC.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)I use his middle initial.
vegetarian x
(150 posts)Maybe it's their private joke. What could it stand for?
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Not a native speaker and doesn't do public speaking often.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Donald, repulsive.
Greywing
(1,124 posts)womanofthehills
(8,783 posts)PatSeg
(47,649 posts)I was surprised at how poised and confident she came across. I couldn't have done as well and English is my first and only language.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)who married rich. What kind of hard work does she know?
zenabby
(364 posts)would you be a man by any chance? she must have worked terribly hard!
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)She owns her history and I don't appreciate a former underwear model, mistress, and pampered princess with unlimited help waxing poetic about hard work.
840high
(17,196 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)elleng
(131,201 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)comes to America and marries rich. Pretty much sums up what I thought of her. She's a Slovenian Ann Romney.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Interesting details about her parents, but other than "enjoyed art class" and "dropped out of college," how is Melania Trump anything but a model who married rich?
annavictorious
(934 posts)This must be scary as all git-go.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Can't stand Trump but hope she does ok. I'd be scared to death.
840high
(17,196 posts)SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)...doesn't stop the "build a wall, keep them out" crowd in their tracks?
Blaukraut
(5,695 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)tblue37
(65,502 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)If there were a whole neighborhood of those Slovenians in town (who come take our jobs, drive up our school taxes, can't even go to the park without seeing them everywhere, and they refuse to speak English, it makes me so mad every time I go to the store), that'd be a real problem.
Also, generally speaking, conservatives tend to admire economic success, and this immigrant has that.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)They literally don't think any further than that. Their brains just turn off.
RandySF
(59,414 posts)When I was a kind growing up in suburban Detroit, every other household had an immigrant family from all over Europe. The beloved neighbor was 'grandma', a dear old lady from Russian who couldn't speak a word of English. But they were WHITE Europeans. That's the difference.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)your complaints in error?
IMO we really need to stop pointing to someone's race as a reason to dismiss someone.
840high
(17,196 posts)are white and have an accent. I am one of them.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)crept into DU over the last couple of years.
When the 'old white men' were told to sit down and basically fade away and those ideas were defended here on DU it was not a good day.
You cannot begin to heal a racial divide by demeaning other people/races.
840high
(17,196 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Satch59
(1,353 posts)In fashion and being a model... And then marry a billionaire...tough work if you get it...
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)it can't be easy being married to an egotistical maniac while you wait to outlive him.
Ellen Forradalom
(16,160 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)"You can marry more money in 15 minutes than you can earn in a lifetime".
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)We are spoiled with Michelle and she will definitely be missed!
trueblue2007
(17,242 posts)Melania's father was a Communist.
Her father, Viktor Knavs, who managed car and motorcycle dealerships for a state-owned vehicle manufacturer,[8][7] and was a member of the Slovenian Communist Party, came from the nearby town of Radeče. Her mother, Amalija (Ulčnik),[7] came from the village of Raka[9] and was a patternmaker at the children's clothing manufacturer Jutranjka in Sevnica.[7][10] She has an older sister, Ines,[11] and an older half-brother, whom she has never met,[12] from her father's previous relationship.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump
SO SHE GREW UP IN A COMMUNIST HOUSEHOLD. Question: what percentage of Trump's supporters know about this?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)trueblue2007
(17,242 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I'm now 180 degrees different as an adult.
Frankly, as Melania has embraced the West's #1 capitalist brand - Trump - I'd say the odds that she's a secret Commie are zero.
Your projection really sucks.
840high
(17,196 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Yes, COMMUNIST!!! And, I am Hungarian.... Still...
annavictorious
(934 posts)I think of Oliver's wife (Ava Gabor) in Green Acres.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)I just adore a penthouse view.
Dah-ling I love you but give me Park Avenue.
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)She sounds so sweet, but her facial expressions....
tblue37
(65,502 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)but he's intensely loyal? ROFL!!!
840high
(17,196 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Are you making a not so veiled reference to Bill Clinton?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)One marriage vs three marriages. Your narratives are becoming tediously obvious.
sarae
(3,284 posts)I can't imagine having to pretend to enjoy sex with the Orange Fuhrer.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)He's repulsive.
Blaukraut
(5,695 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Like a deer stuck in headlights
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)trueblue2007
(17,242 posts)Hekate
(90,865 posts)I managed to flub every language class I was ever forced to take and I'm not proud of that. If my eventual MA/PhD course 20 years later hadn't eliminated the requirement for written fluency in two languages, I never would have been able to do it.
I may not like Melania or believe a word she says, and I think she has terrible taste in men, but I will never criticize her public speaking abilities.
PatSeg
(47,649 posts)She is not a professional speaker, but she comes across as very confident and poised. Too bad she has terrible taste in men.
womanofthehills
(8,783 posts)honing her speech.
PatSeg
(47,649 posts)That kind of presentation does not come easily or naturally for most people. Too bad they couldn't have worked 5 or 6 weeks on the damn speech though! Can't believe the speechwriter(s) plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech. This story is going to plague the convention for at least a couple of days.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And she claims that SHE wrote it....but it was, word for word, a speech by Michelle Obama.
Hekate
(90,865 posts)csziggy
(34,139 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)someone who is so privileged - someone who's husband could have hired the finest tutors in the world? Just like Charo and that Modern Family chick.
Oh lordy, did that all sound bigoted? Hope not.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Response to msanthrope (Reply #80)
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pangaia
(24,324 posts)What language do you think she was speaking....in.. ?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)I would work on.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)She'd better do well or else The Donald will tell her "You're fired!"
I would imagine that living with him is not always lollipops and sunshine.
That said, I will miss Michelle Obama's class. Some have it; some don't. And it's not something that can be bought.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)What did you find tacky @ her?
840high
(17,196 posts)Love her dress.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Clearly she's never been prepped for anything like.this role.
I mean how can you ignore that she's gorgeous. We know that .
Is she intelligent? Interesting? First lady material? None of those questions were answered tonight.
But she did illuminate a lot about herself tonight .
pangaia
(24,324 posts)She looks plastic and imitation. Not her fault.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)She copied a speech by Michelle Obama, word for word. She didn't say "My husband, Barack" she said "My husband Donald" but other than that she copied Michelle Obama.
And she has been caught.
She told Matt Lauer that she wrote the speech--but already the media is hollering for him to fire the actual speechwriter who wrote this.
Wouldn't it be funny if one of his shitty little KIDS helped him with it? Maybe that's how they got through private school? LOL!!!!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)hell that they all didn't review it. As for Trump - he's much too intellectually lazy to know the words had been said before.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)The speech was very scripted in my opinion, and I felt she was doing as she was told, reading the speech, and looking beautiful. That's not classy behavior to me.
My opinion was actually formed PRIOR TO learning of the words having been taken from Michelle Obama's speech.
Now, Melania owes Michelle an apology. THAT would be class.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)little did we know it was because she "liberally borrowed" from Michelle Obama's speeches!
elleng
(131,201 posts)You may or may not care for what she said.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I thought Michelle delivered it better!!
This is worse than the Neil Kinnock speech that Biden plagiarized--it's ghastly!!!
elleng
(131,201 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)They're saying she got "fucked over" by the speechwriters....
But she said she wrote it herself....
Whassup widat?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Nicole Neroulias @BeliefBeat 1 minute ago
"Never go with a hippie to a second location." #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes
George Eliot
(701 posts)Not a lawyer or even professional. Multilingual but not natural or perhaps comfortable with English. I think we can win without trashing Milania. I'd say she gave Mrs. Obama a high compliment.
She plagiarized and for me that's the end of it. She's not running for president.
Also, there was a lot more to the speech than those few words. She obviously thought they were important words
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd rationalize it such too if my bias demanded as much. The whole, "it was just a few words, and there was more to than that" narrative is becoming rather bemusing.
George Eliot
(701 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,201 posts)Seriously, some of the responses here sound as rabid as anything the TrumpNuts could come up with. But I promise I'll remember to look closely at the ballot this fall to see if she's one of the choices.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...stating that she simply used everyday words other people use. That any similarity to Michelle's speech was a coincidence.
Melania tried to take credit for the speech with Matt Laurer before it was given, and in her rush to take credit where non was earned, she tainted herself. She has learned a few things from Trump, it appears.
I will admit she was posed, and pretty, and got her nerves under control to deliver the speech that was partially plagiarized.
ps.. Not only did she take credit for writing the speech, but she got lots of compliments for using the words of Michelle Obama. Both Trumps are being called out for plagiarizing the words of the wife of the one person in the world that Donald hates almost more than Hillary. Isn't that ironically delicious?
MADem
(135,425 posts)You just can't make this shit up. Some idiot was saying that on CNN.
I think she probably took a chill pill before going out there, and read the teleprompter.
The words were good, because they are words that Michelle used--about her husband.
Those idiots in that arena were cheering the words of a black woman from Chicago, talking about the values she and her black, Kenyan, No-Birth-Certificate (this is snark, people--you have to point that out nowadays) HUSBAND, who happens to be the POTUS they revile, share! And THAT is the part of this that is most delicious--seeing the mouth breathing Republicans, taking a blind taste test, in essence, and preferring the Pepsi over the Coke!