2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary sounds like she finally has that fire in her belly (Now w/ Video!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512277563I thought she was anemic during the primary. I've always felt like she was a pandering politician. But what I am hearing out of Tampa is a born again hard Hillary. She sounds awesome. She's taking the gloves off on Trump. If this is Hillary going forward, she's a candidate we can all be proud of.
(thanks IronLionZion for the link)
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Great job by Hillary. Perfect tone and pitch. Loved the optimistic message.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Expose them for what they are.
glowing
(12,233 posts)It literally uses his name in her anti-message. It's not smart to put love and trump in the same line. Her message should be strong and have nothing to do with his name... If one doesn't see the Hate at the bottom and just reads the top two lines, we see Love Trump... I think the Dems need to come up with a different marketing campaign than being afraid of Donald Trump... If she's and we are afraid of Trump, how does one face up to the other leaders or multi-billionaires of the world?
Maven
(10,533 posts)Not many people could endure 4 days of televised vitriolic hate directed against them personally like what we just witnessed and come out swinging and smiling at the same time.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,860 posts)must have done it. Shit just got real.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)Loved it! And yes, MSNBC ran the whole thing.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)She's never going to have that fire in her belly when up against fellow Democrats.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)the way Trump trashed his opponents. We'd be as divided as the Rs.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)So you debate him as a respectful critic with different ideas.
Trump is just a thug, deserving of no such courtesy.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)And even then, Hillary was very obviously the grownup in the room. She's just had 4 days of the most vitriolic hatred thrown at her PERSONALLY by national elected officials and the candidate for president from the other party and she has emerged looking amazing, physically, with light in her eyes, animated, smiling, hopeful, positive, inclusive. Fantastic, hit JUST the right note.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)had Trump not dragged them into the gutter.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)but I agree, the tone was lowered irrevocably by Trump, and they never recovered.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)And she defended why Democrats hold those values.
She also made herself a bit more personable and came across as someone voters could relate to.
She sounded both firm and caring, realistic yet full of optimism.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)hit all the right points IMO
red dog 1
(27,857 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)That was fabulous. I can't WAIT for the debates!
DinahMoeHum
(21,809 posts)It's no contest there.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)calimary
(81,500 posts)She's behaved with great class and elegance, throughout. AND she's setting up another template. She's broken ground for how a woman runs for President, because she's already gone farther along that road than any other woman.
I feel like OUR folks are the real adults in the room, and that will be proven yet again, and rather glaringly, in the way the Democratic convention is organized and staged and run. They're the seasoned pros. They're the REAL grown-ups in the room, with the cool heads and the mature, respectable behavior. They're the ones who take this stuff seriously. Hillary and Bernie are perfect to show how former opponents get along together when it really counts. I mean - look at the example the other guys gave us, to which we can compare how Hillary and Bernie will be a united front next week. Watching the pissy mess between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump - and how the "winner" there is behaving like a five-year-old, we can watch next week and enjoy, and feel proud as can be. (With apologies to real five-year-olds everywhere.)
Actually, watching that crazy display Wednesday and yesterday, it makes me appreciate Bernie just that much more.
THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE, GOP.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)She had a foil.
Not so much now.
calguy
(5,326 posts)before he was the official nominee, the GOPricks might have panicked and dumped him. She's playing this just right. I think she has two masters at campaigning in Bill and Barack to coach her along the way.
So far it's being well played.
IronLionZion
(45,534 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Now she is stoking it, and our support adds fuel to that fire.
George II
(67,782 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Don't ruin it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I am truly happy you like what you saw out of her today and it kicks ass you shared those thoughts. I know you have serious issues with Clinton. I hope she continues to give you something you find to be positive.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Fired up...ready to go.
wysi
(1,512 posts)This is going to be one hell of a campaign.