Check in if MSNBC Has Totally Lost You As A Viewer

[stopbush]

I used to watch pretty faithfully, but this election cycle has put me off that network.

I don't need to recite all the reasons why that is, because those reasons are obvious to anyone who has watched their convention coverage this week. What an embarassment they have become - an echo chamber of self-aggrandizing pundits peddling their opinions to dozens of viewers. I like to say they've become Fox News with a few minority and gay pundits thrown in to give them cover, and an appearance that they are different than the other cable networks.

I'm all for balance, but it's one thing to air different views, something else to overcompensate by looking for fault in every positive story coming out of a political event.

I'm done. It's C Span for me, CNN if I want to see fancy charts and graphics.

[femmocrat]

1. They are dead to me now.

And I was a devoted watcher.

[katmondoo]

37. I was too. Now I dislike all of them

I watched the convention on C-Span. Sometimes I turned to MSNBC and they wee nauseating. This morning I vowed to never watch again. I can't believe Rachel. She use to be a favorite of mine, no more,

[LakeArenal]

116. you got that right...

Maddow has just lost everything that made her "cutting edge". Her criticism of Bill's speech was so whiny. Sheesh.....
It's Bill's story not hers. When he met Hillary, she WAS a girl....

[Cheviteau]

162. Watched That Also

First O'Donnell shut her down, then she went to Todd and he pretty much shut her down also. finally she gets validation for her stupid remarks from (wait for it) George W. Bush's spokeswoman. Rachael's problem is that she is reading too many of MSNBC's full page ads about how intelligent she is. The truth is, she's not smart enough to critique Bill Clinton's speeches.

[nightwing1240]

169. Couldn't agree more

I've always enjoyed Rachel Maddow until last night when she made such a fuss over President Clinton calling Hillary "a girl" and would that it would not go over well with feminists. See ya Rachel and MSNBC

[TheBlackAdder]

209. During one debate, Scarborough, Todd and co. were so full of it, FOX were actually the adults.

.


I thought I went through a parallel universe, when FOX actually handled the debate rather professionally.

Well, to keep context... MSNBC was so poor, anything would have been better.


MSNBC is trying to subtly change their format, on the hope they keep and transform their viewers.

It's just horrible now.


.

[billhicks76]

217. They Were Never Liberal...Always Centrist

Are people mad they are too liberal now and call out moderates that supported Bush? I don't get it. Who was shallow enough to ever think a network owned by Conservative Comcast would ever support real change? Everyone complaining loved them when they shut down Bernie or BLM.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I stopped watching over a year ago. Their suckage was bad enough then.

[bjobotts]

129. The MSNBC Maddow blog never said one negative comment about Hillary but attacked Bernie daily

Unbiased fair and balanced? What a joke. Can't trust them now on any story as news has been replaced by opinion and a corporatist viewpoint.

[phylny]

187. I haven't watched in years n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

207. They lost me years ago.

[tallahasseedem]

3. I'm officially out

as of last night. Rachel's meltdown was the last straw.

[leftynyc]

24. Same here

Her WHINING about the first half of Bill's speech and I was done. When I can't watch Rachel, there is no reason to turn my tv onto that channel.

[workinclasszero]

62. I agree with that

That bizarre performance was the end for me.

I'll be watching C-Span for the rest of the convention for sure.

[awoke_in_2003]

158. She has sold out. nt

[Firebrand Gary]

213. Yes, that garbage about Bill was way over the line.

[JaneyVee]

4. I havent watched since the 2012 election.

Dont even have it as a channel anymore.

[apcalc]

5. Check

They suck.

[Cosmocat]

6. Its unfortunate

Leading off the day with Scarborough ... they lost me there years ago.

[Fla Dem]

141. That's about when they lost me as a regular viewer.

Keith and Rachel were my go to commentators for news and information. But they got rid of Keith, and I understand he was very difficult to work with, and I think he was going off the rails a little bit at the end. I don't know if it was his father's failing health and then dying or what, but he just was a little off.

Rachael,.....I don't know. I still have a lot of respect for her, but I just think she is following orders of her corporate masters. Keith wouldn't do it and he was let go. I think Rachael walks a fine line, but you know, we need a champion for the Left. Someone like she was at the beginning. Someone who calls out the RW hypocrisy and lies, who calls out the bad actors. But it's not going to happen. They let her do some special reports, like Flint Michigan and Gov Rick Synder's incompetence. And she did a big one on the environment. But they're not letting her get into the down and dirty. Maybe she doesn't want to. Maybe she's happy with the role she's playing. After all she's the biggest news draw of all NBC/MSNBC/CNBC line up. So maybe she's content. If so, we've lost our champion.

Last night's call out of Bill Clinton was strange. Frankly I was getting a little bored with the beginning, but maybe I'm just not used to good ole country story telling. But her remarks about it being sexist were out of left field. And she was visibly annoyed, to the point that Brian Williams threw a question at Lawrence O'Donnell just to get the camera off her. It was a moment.

[Siwsan]

7. I was once a nightly viewer - no more

Every once in a while I tune in for Lawrence O'Donnell but Rachel lost me, months ago.

I'll always be thankful for the focus Rachel Maddow brought to the Flint water crisis, but enough is enough!

[stopbush]

15. O'Donnell lost me with his shameless support of Bernie.

I remember him discussing the polls at one point and remarking that "Hillary's numbers will never go up from where they are now. They will only go down. That's been her history."

I get that LO never forgave Bill for not modeling his WH on LO's "West Wing" scripts.

[Siwsan]

18. I felt the same way about Rachel and Hillary!! So it's really the same issue!

Oh well. That's the past and we are all on the same team, now.

[BobbyDrake]

22. Rachel was for Bernie until his campaign tried calling her a liar.

When Sanders' staff went on TV and tried to pretend like they never tried to compete in the southern states, which Rachel Maddow had actually covered them doing on her show weeks prior, she appeared to sober up and dialed the bias back. That's why to some it appeared she started favoring Clinton; because before that she was favoring Bernie so strongly that even normal coverage of Clinton looked anomalous.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

53. Creating stories in your head?

Feel free to show proof of any of this.....

[stopbush]

67. I agree with the claim that Rachel was in Bernie's camp for a long time.

Many of the progressives on MSNBC were rooting for Bernie.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

68. Proof?

Feel free to prove it.

[stopbush]

72. Do a search on YouTube of Rachel's shows this spring.

All the proof you or anyone else needs.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

74. So, your answer is "no".

You're going off of perceived biases. You've created a whole narrative (or soap opera) in your head about Rachel Maddow and her political leanings. Time to turn off the TV.

[Maru Kitteh]

93. No, the answer is yes, but you have to participate and look it up if you really care. Rachel's

early Bernie bias was really quite evident. You won't even have to try very hard.

It did change later to more even-handed coverage and when it was apparent who the nominee would be, she switched to HIllary.

This isn't some personal affront to you, just some conversation about easily observable fact - so your behavior in being so nasty to Stopbush is completely uncalled for.

[Javaman]

128. doesnt' work that way...

stopbush made the accusation, so it's on stopbush to provide proof.

it's just how it works. It's called supporting ones argument.

[stopbush]

196. Actually, Bobby Drake made the "accusation."

I simply agreed with Bobby's accusation.

[Javaman]

219. yup, you are right. I stand corrected.

[BobbyDrake]

80. Here you go. Proof from Rachel herself.

Sanders Campaign Rewrites History Of Super Tuesday Losses
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/sanders-campaign-rewrites-history-of-losses-653984323970

Enjoy!

[lunamagica]

106. I agree with BobbyD. I remember all happenig like he says

[DLCWIdem]

109. I will help you find the proof it is right there.

I Remember the episode and they were even reporting that Bernie's campaign hired someone to help them talk to AA.

[BobbyDrake]

145. Thanks! I was able to find the video and post it in another reply nearby. nt

[DLCWIdem]

147. yeah I saw that after I posted. I knew you were right and your "friend" that was implying

you were making it up was being a horse's rear end. RM was kissing up to Bernie until that point, as you posted. But after that she was protecting her journalism when his campaign tried to imply that he didn't try to compete in those states, which totally contradicted her reporting. It wasn't until after Bernie's campaign tried to sandbag her that she checked her bias. After Bernie responded to Trump's abortion fiasco with "now can we move on to something important" , she started to be more fair to Hillary.

[BobbyDrake]

150. Yep. Primary may be gone, but it's not forgotten.

That's why so many of these recent crocodile tears around here have me so worked up. People who shat all over the Democratic Party, it's members, and DU in general, demanding to be treated respectfully.

Respect is earned, never demanded!

[wcmagumba]

8. Check please...

C Span or CNN occasionally to see what Fox Lite is saying...no MSNBC at all.

[geek tragedy]

9. no more MSRNC for me.

CNN has Van Jones, Paul Begala, and Axelrod. Usually something intelligent will be said.

[Blue Idaho]

20. Ha! I see what you did there... Clever! nt.

[BobbyDrake]

23. Axelrod spends too much time trying to burnish his pundit shingle by parroting the GOP for me.

His tweets this year have been used to justify coverage of a couple of non-issues.

[CrispyQ]

10. I miss Al Jazeera. -nt

[renate]

48. oh gosh, me too

SO much.

[Deuce]

132. So do i... so unfortunate they had to cease operations here.

[ornotna]

133. Yes

At least you got real news from them and not a 24hr cycle of politics and the disaster du jour.

[CrispyQ]

139. Except for the attack in Nice,

I don't think I've seen any international news on American channels.

[livetohike]

11. When Keith left, I cut back on MSNBC. Now

I haven't watched them at all for over a year.

[GreenPartyVoter]

17. I drifted away after Keith, but came back for the primaries. I am stunned at how badly it has

gone downhill!! Rachel breaks my heart the most.

[livetohike]

21. She's probably just trying to keep her job and follow

the right wingers on MSNBC. Sad.

[Delmette]

94. Of course she is.

Rachel saw what happened to Melissa Harris Perry, she doesn't want to be the next to go.

I haven't watched MSNBC for months.

C-Span has been good enough for me.

[George Eliot]

112. Rachel loves it. Look at all her best friends now. Maybe she never was real.

She's been talking the MSNBC meme for a long, long time. It was clear since her lack of any empathy for Keith when he left. She's not Keith. Never has been.

[MoonRiver]

12. I'm done with them.

But even when I have CNN on, the tv is usually on mute.

[jalan48]

13. The corporate media pushing a corporate agenda.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

142. Bingo!

This distills it down to the real reason you're seeing that type of reporting.

Start the revolution, peaceful of course.

[Hortensis]

14. Record a couple of problems, ow they've been toast

to me for a long time now. Also CNN and Fox. Also ABC, NBC, and CBS news programming. I get my news on line and from public radio.

[Captain_New_York]

16. Yes

I will never watch them again, they are fixated on finding negative things about the Dem/Hillary instead of fair reporting. Watching using the App on my Fire Stick

[Tatiana]

19. CNN at least has tried to seem fair and featured Van Jones prominently.

To allow Brian Williams and Rachel Maddow to anchor the coverage should tell you all you need to know. A liar and a woman who is selling her principles to the highest bidder. I understand Tweety is too unpredictable to be allowed in prime time unchaperoned, but Lawrence O'Donnell is probably the most consistent talent on that network who thoroughly understands politics. Not mention the Emmy-winning Chris Hays. Joy Reid has also provided cogent, thoughtful, and accurate analysis.

Williams and Maddow. Give me a break.

Yes, I've left that network. I actually left a long time ago.

[Blue Idaho]

26. Oops... Wrong place!

did not mean this to be a comment on your post.

[stopbush]

96. Van Jones has done his share of Hillary bashing this cycle.

He's more supportive now that she's the candidate, but still...

[Bohunk68]

167. Have tried to watch CNN a few times, and Chris Cuomo,

even though he is my governor's brother, sucks. The guy is just a twit. You would not believe he is the son of Mario. Haven't found a one that I care for. RM has been sucky for a long time now, just as the posters above, have been saying. Oh, yes, I sure do miss Al Jazeera. They had the best news from around the world. I try to get by on Link TV and the internet.

[stopbush]

25. The challenge all these pundits have is to come up with

an opinion or observation that goes against received opinion while still toeing the pre-conceived corporate narrative.

This is what you see all the time from Chuck Toad. They know that they'll never be held accountable for any predictions they make or any insights they offer that don't turn out to be true, but they also know that they'll look like a genius insider if only one of their guesses pans out.

Bread and circuses, minus the bread.

[rurallib]

27. Pretty much stopped after Olbermann left

Get most of my news online now.
A little newspapers, a little NPR with a huge grain of salt. Almost nothing from TV

[lilsourgoose]

28. Yep!

All done.

Today's Trump/Russia nonsense is a chance for one of these worthless networks to redeem themselves. It's all they should be talking about! Treason!

[Blue Idaho]

29. Really pissed on last night's convention coverage...

I've had it with them. There was a brief and shining moment when it looked like they really would "Lean Forward." But I remember reading they had shit canned that philosophy and were turning to more conservative hosts and guests. To me it looks like conservative guests now outnumber liberal guests on the panels. Steve Schmidt? Nicole Wallace? Hugh fucking Hewitt? Boy, they weren't kidding!

Add to that - Rachael, Laurence, being well past their sell by date and knuckleheads like boy wonder Chris Hayes opining when he should be in the shallow end of the pool and you have a network that has one foot on the dock and one foot in the boat. We all know that can't last long.

[CentralMass]

30. I dropped cable in the beginning of 2015.

[Armstead]

31. Well they have literally lost me, because I cut my cable last week

I did it mainly for financial reasons (can't afford to pay for a lot of junk I don't watch) and so I lost the abilty to watch it live.

Despte the news junkie withdrawals, I find that I'd rather see the pundits in small doses on the Internet and watch the convention unfiltered.

[ailsagirl]

32. Check but I'd like to know what happened to MSNBC

Didn't it used to be progressive? (Or at least purport to be?)

[stopbush]

38. They made a change at the top and the new guy scrapped

the "liberal answer to Fox News" identity they had cultivated for years.

MSNBC has always placed third in the cable news wars after Fox and CNN. Thet are obsessed with finding a formula that will get their ratings up. Ratings determine how much you can charge for ads, so it all comes down to money.

[dgibby]

47. They were bought by Comcast,

a conservative organization, and have been trending right ever since. Surprised Rachel and O'Donnell are still there.

[ailsagirl]

88. Thanks for the explanation, guys

O'Donnell still seems the same, I must say-- or is he?

It's too bad this new guy had to muck everything up

Oh, and yesterday I saw a campaign ad for dumdum on MSNBC-- the volume was turned down, thank God

[katmondoo]

118. No, there have been times lately that I had to turn him off too

They are all off now, I will never watch any of them again

[LostinRed]

33. I'm done with all cable news

They're not journalist I get my news from any other source

[4lbs]

34. I'm close, but I will still watch them, guardedly.

However, if they don't start hammering Donald Dumpster, and start holding his feet to the fire when he and his campaign blatantly lie, I will stop.

I've watched them diligently for more than a decade, but the enthusiasm for them is dwindling quickly.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. What's television?

[workinclasszero]

66. A box that shits RW lies in your living room

Congrats on not having one!

[Politicub]

36. Hasn't had me for a while

Not part of my basic cable package. Only time I really hear about it is on DU.

[Coolest Ranger]

39. The only time

I watch is when Reverend Al and AM Joy are on. Otherwise I don't watch anymore. I don't even watch Lock-up Raw just to watch the cute cops on the show.

[stopbush]

82. Both Al and Joy lost their weekday shows

and have been consigned to the weekends.

Joy does appearances on their political coverage and guest hosts for Mathews et al.

[Coolest Ranger]

85. That's the only time

I watch MSNBC now. Most of the time I get my news from the internet or when i can think about it TV One or BBC America.

[floriduck]

40. Yep, months ago.

[Libby2]

41. They lost me a long time ago.

I don't watch any of them.

[RAFisher]

42. It's all entertainment that really should not be taken that seriously.

If you enjoy attractive people reading a teleprompter or arguing, then it is great. Reading is boring but a much better way to get news.

[elleng]

43. Happened months ago.

With you on C-Span (and cnn occasionally.)

[ananda]

44. Cable news is very toxic these days.

I have tried watching BBC World News, but mostly
I get my news online.

We need a revived Fairness in Media law, and all
the conglomerates need to be broken up -- news,
telecoms, tv providers, banks, all of them.

[Lamonte]

45. MSNBC

I was watching MSNBC and while speakers were at the podium the MSNBC greats were talking over the speaker so much I changed channels. Rachel is horrible, another Howard Cosell.

[TimeToGo]

46. Gone for me

[Avalux]

49. ALL MSM lost me awhile ago.

My anxiety level has improved a great deal so it was a good decision to cut them out of my life.

I've been watching the convention on PBS and CSPAN, and I read my news.

[TeamPooka]

50. Too much Trump and bullshit. Watching the DNC on CSPAN now

[tonyt53]

51. Something peculiar is going on with MSNBC. Not sure what, but something is amiss.

[sarae]

52. I think it's this...

[hibbing]

54. Brian Williams...barf

The most interesting and analytical person on that network is Chris Hayes.


Peace

[procon]

77. Yeah, he needs to go back to his pasture.

He serves no purpose other than announcing the names of the next reporter to appear on air. Left unattended, he blurts out some really senseless comments that make me question his mental condition.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

55. They lost me a few years back

When they dumped Olberman.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

56. They're obsessed with Donald Trump. Every time he takes a shit, they cover it.

And Rachel is on my nerves. She is in love with Trump and loves the fact that he mentions her.

I've been watching nothing but C-SPAN during this convention.

Even CNN pundits didn't talk over the roll call.

[2naSalit]

57. I'm not interested in them anymore

and since the only web site that carries them now requires me to turn of my ad blocker, I'm not going to bother with them either. And CSPAN requires a "sign in" to make sure I'm buying cable, but I don't have a teevee so I don't get to watch our public access anymore either. This site is the only politically oriented place i have access anymore so please keep me in the loop of info!

I have only limited access (internet) since I'm very rural and poor.

[renie408]

58. Oh yeah, I'm done

[LisaM]

59. Not totally (thank you Joy Reid!) but I am a little kerflummoxed

I thought Bill Clinton's speech was a masterpiece last night and yet Rachel and Nicole Wallace ripped it to shreds. IMO they were wrong, but more to the point, what did they miss that I saw (or vice versa?)

They also, by the time I see them on the west coast, seem completely zonked with tiredness.

[stopbush]

69. It seems like Job One at MSNBC is to immediately identify any positive story

about the Ds and to then mercilessly hammer all hope out of the same.

Yes, what did they see? Obviously, we're not to believe our lying eyes and ears! MSNBC is playing three-dimensional political chess. So, while you may believe that you saw something very positive, the crew at MSNBC is here to disabuse you of that notion, no matter how convoluted their argument.

[LisaM]

73. LOL, yep, that's about it.

I don't get the dynamics between Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace, either.

[Stellar]

60. Just started watching again this week for first time since 03/2015...just for the convention, but...

I'm done after this.

[jodymarie aimee]

61. death of liberal media

OH I cried and cried. What Andy Lack has made of our once great network. Disgusting. Joe Schmo used to be the exception, now he is the Lord and Master. Koch commercials run every half hour. I live in Wisconsin and what those 2 brothers have done to our state... to see MSNBC run their ads is disgusting. To me the only radical we have left there is O'Donnell and he is on the way out. I can only hope their ratings sink into the ground. STOP WATCHING THEM AND GIVING THEM ANY RATINGS PLEASE.

[LittleGirl]

63. They lost me a long time ago

The only time I hear about them is here on DU and if I want to watch clips or speeches from the convention, I go to CSPAN. The MSM is awful.
I watch BBC World News and Euronews mostly. CNN is almost as awful but I do enjoy mr. Jones.

[Protalker]

64. The Meek one

When the FBI decided not to pursue charges on Hillary I thought Brezinski was going to explode. The whole cast of Morning Joe is really like Trump Central.

[demmiblue]

65. They lost a lot of the left awhile ago.

Centrists are now following suit.

What a shame... I miss the days of Keith Olbermann and the just started Rachel Maddow.

[Jack Bone]

70. Present & Accounted For nt

[63splitwindow]

71. Exclusive convention coverage for me is now C-SPAN. I will decide what is being said. nt

[chknltl]

75. They are on my ignore list.

If it walks like propaganda, looks like propaganda, smells like propaganda but pretends to be something else.....

That said, i do watch RT. I watch a few select shows there .

[Greybnk48]

76. I never turn it on anymore.

I used to put it on first thing in the a.m., but quit when Joe Scarborough took over. I never missed Keith, watched a lot of Tweety, even liked Geraldo in the 90's when he fought for Bill and Hill. I always had the evening line up set to record in case I was watching something else, and if I was really busy, I at least watched Rachel on the DVR.

I have not watched it since March or April. It's unwatchable. Even Rachel.

[cally]

78. Yes but I will continue to watch Chris Hayes

and fast forward through all Trump coverage. I am not watching their coverage. Even CNN, offers a more balanced view.

[glennward]

179. I will only watch Larry O'Donnel. He's the man! nt

[Mary in S. Carolina]

79. Very Disappointed

I am very disappointed with MSNBC and their negative coverage of Hillary, the national newspapers for not putting the 1st women ever nominated on the front page, I am disappointed in several online liberal sites for their lack of positive coverage of Hillary. This was a great day for women and all the coverage is more blah, blah, blah, Donald Trump, blah, blah, blah Bernie Sanders, blah, blah, blah Bill Clinton. Women are the greatest demographic and we will take the White House, with or without men.

[prairierose]

81. I stopped watching months ago...

when they began to be all Trump and trashed Bernie constantly I stuck with Sundays until they got rid of Melissa Harris Perry and that was it.... no more. I never bother to turn over there.

[turbinetree]

83. This is a prime example of what happens when you let conglomerates merge

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34789-democracy-in-peril-twenty-years-of-media-consolidation-under-the-telecommunications-act

https://it.ojp.gov/PrivacyLiberty/authorities/statutes/1288


And has for C-Span, let's not forget that Paul Ryan, shut off the feed during the sit-in-------------that's in its self is frightening



Honk-------------------for a political revolution

[63splitwindow]

90. And the act of shutting off that feed was, obviously, on C-SPAN for all to see.

[turbinetree]

101. Everyone got to see and hear the moderator say that Ryan shut off the feed

and was waiting to see if and when they would go back into session, because the moderator knew that Ryan had to have a vote to end the session, so, Periscope was the feed, and if anyone was watching--------------people were watching how a republicans were beside themselves, waiting for C-Span to come back on




Honk-------------------for a political revolution

[Maru Kitteh]

84. I watched MSNBC primarily for the last year, but they are GONE as of the convention

I am watching & DVRing the convention coverage on uninterrupted, comment, commercial and talking-head free channel 347 on DirecTV, which is PURE FREAKIN' BLISS.

I've also been DVR'ing CNN's coverage - which has proven to be of MUCH higher quality than MSNBC.

I have also heard that demconvention.com provides the same awesome coverage as 347 on DirecTV; but I have a very rural internet connection. so not a great option for me.

MSNBC can kiss it. Their coverage has been inexcusable and stupid.

[stopbush]

95. Same here. I want the option of viewing 100% of the convention

not the 25% the networks give us.

They complain that the Ds aren't connecting to the public, and then they conveniently don't show all the speeches that do just that. I'm surprised they aired all of Bill's speech as it humanized Hillary.

[Maru Kitteh]

97. I loved how the narrative yesterday was "Dems are villifying cops!" WHILE we had

positively awesome LEO's speaking at the convention.

[stopbush]

98. See, I didn't even know that as I watched 347 all day.

The media and their silly narratives.

[Maru Kitteh]

100. Heard it on XM radio when I couldn't watch. This kitteh

spent some time yelling at the radio. Probably didn't look overly sane to my fellow drivers.

Oh well.

[BainsBane]

86. I'm more of a PBS person anyway

I just broke down and got TV service, in part to get a better deal on my internet.
So I was able to watch the convention last night without the usual hassles of setting up streaming. But I still didn't turn on cable news. I watched it on CSPAN and then turned on PBS for commentary.

Part of what I hate about cable "news" is the noise. I'm not sure if you know what I mean, but there is a level of noise and hysteria on these cable news entertainment channels that I find unbearable.

[procon]

87. At this point, FauxNews is arguably more Fair and Balanced than MSNBC.

They've added a lot of heavy handed Republican hosts and hired so many many rightwing contributors that the focus has tilted in favor of the GOP. Evidently a memo has gone out to the remaining hosts to promote Republican ideology and criticise everything that is looks like a Democrat. The whole channel has become unrecognizable, and after watch Maddow acting like an unhinged harpy in her hateful harangue of Bill Clinton's homage to the 'girl' he met and fell in love with, I'm just not willing to watch that crap anymore.

[nadine_mn]

89. I tried to stay w/MSNBC for Maddow - but no more

TYT and Majority Report w/ a helping of other random outlets

[KeepItReal]

111. Yep. TYT and Sam Seder for me also.

And some BBC America news.

[SalviaBlue]

91. I pretty much stopped watching when Olbermann left.

I used to record Ed Schultz, but since he's gone I don't watch at all.

I have tuned in periodically and its all Trump, Trump, Trump.

I had Bill's speech on MSNBC last night and caught Rachel's reaction. I was really shocked at her analysis. She is living in some kind of bubble

I have no use for them anymore.

[kimbutgar]

92. I can't watch it during the convention.

Watching CSPAN is so better. But lately I have found myself turning it off when they start spouting GOP talking points and fawning over cheeto.

[aintitfunny]

99. I'm done

Been watching CSpan.

[relayerbob]

102. Long Ago

They haven't been relevant to any conversation in any way in at least 5 years

[B Calm]

103. Apparently the demonstrators interrupting MSNBC right now don't care for them either.

[jtuck004]

104. Lol - cable went with my job. Now I spend a lot more time talking with other people

who vote about how we are getting fucked over.

I don't need anything from their talking heads

[Johnny2X2X]

105. They have been awful

CNN's coverage has been fair.

[AllyCat]

107. No cable here so I don't watch by default

What was Rachel's beef?

[stopbush]

113. Bill calling Hillary "a girl I met" in his speech.

Apparently, girl is now a term of derision.

[Blue Idaho]

126. So I guess "Girl Power" is out too?

So according to Rachael - the idea of recasting phrases like "Girl Power" and "Fight Like a Girl" are also unthinkable sexist rhetoric?

And a 69 year old former President is not allowed to talk about the earliest memories of he and Mrs. Clinton and use the words "boy"'and "girl."

To hell with that.

[George Eliot]

108. I've reduced cable expense by giving up on MSNBC

It was the only reason I purchased that tier.

But people should watch Fox once in a while. They have some good programming and it's interesting to hear their points of view. In some instances, they are more honestly critiquing because they are the Republican network. Listening to both sides can't hurt if you a discretionary listener. CNN was biased as well but not anywhere as bad as MSNBC. They had very good panels with representation for all candidates.

[KeepItReal]

110. Rachel Maddow's non-coverage of Bernie + GOP ad nauseum took me out

I'd Tivo and watch her every fraking day since KO brought her aboard.

No more. It is disturbing how her coverage totally changed once the primaries started.

[geretogo]

114. Your not going to find " balance " on any Corporate owned and programmed TV or radio station.

I very rarely ever tune in to any of them . It's like eating watery oatmeal . Progressive
talk shows is the alternative .

[Mr.Bill]

115. I pretty much much stopped watching

when they became the All-Trump channel. Chris Matthews did everything but put on his knee pads every time Trump burped or farted for the last year.

[Bohunk68]

170. Knee pads caught me, LOL. I have been calling him the Mandibular Masturbator

for a couple of years. That is all that he does.

[NurseJackie]

117. We still have have a "season-pass" recording configured for Rachel on our DVD system. But ...

... we never watch it. Each night's show just "ages-out" after two days and we choose something else more interesting and mentally stimulating. Nothing personal against Rachel, but I guess we've just outgrown her.

[niyad]

119. they lost me with the loss of KO.

[Estel]

120. I am done with them

After their dreadful coverage of this convention. I got really annoyed the other night after Hillary got nominated and they followed it up with three interviews of very unhappy Bernie supporters... Awful crap. I went onto MSNBC website to complain and couldn't find a way to do it. I guess they no longer really care what viewers (or former viewers in my case) think.

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

121. After yesterday there is no doubt.

Rachel has been getting on my nerves for several months now. She often acts as if she knows more than anyone else and her opinion is gospel. Their search for disgruntled Bernie supporters is 'ridiculous' by usually finding the young and uninformed. But yesterday and her takedown of Bill was too much and I had to turn her off. I wonder how Melissa Harris Perry would have handled this convention.

[Ccarmona]

122. When Keith Left, so Did I

Independent Internet media, such as Randi Rhodes, The Young Turks, and Ring of Fire occupy my viewing and listening time nowadays.

[dembotoz]

156. yep

[Javaman]

123. today? I left them a very long time ago. nt

[kcr]

124. Same here

They were my go to for mainstream cable news. If I just wanted quickly check the news on TV, that was the channel. But this shitty coverage of the DNC is the last straw.

[Auggie]

125. Pretty much so (n/t)

[Duppers]

127. Totally!

As of ~10 months ago. Not gone back for even a peep.

[catbyte]

130. To be honest, I stopped watching regularly when they got rid of Keith Olbermann.

[RKP5637]

131. It's tiring/boring to watch, endless commercials and endless yacking by the supposed

know it alls over the convention speakers. I find myself switching to C Span too. I was amazed at how they just talked over the convention speakers like a bunch of airheads!

[Dustlawyer]

134. I was done when they ignored, dismissed, belittled and

lied about Bernie while giving Trump twice the airtime of Fox News even.

My elderly mom lives with me and still watches as she does not do computers. Every night I have to try and deprogram her from the days lies and then tell her about important things that they didn't even cover.

We must bust up these media oligarchs!!!

[Stand and Fight]

135. yes

[yuiyoshida]

136. They have lost me...

They are trying to be FOX light now... I can find my news else where on line.

[Dem2]

137. Watch Fox then

I'm not that sensitive to a little thing or two I disagree with.

I don't need constant confirmation of my biases.

I know how to use the remote when a dumb segment is on.

[63splitwindow]

152. The other option is to not watch any of them and enjoy living life just a bit more.

[Dem2]

164. True!

I do enjoy the banter, but when it gets stupid - time to find another distraction for a time

[Frustratedlady]

138. I quit a year ago and haven't missed it at all.

I used to love watching Rachel, but I couldn't stand her saying the same thought but in 3 different sentences. Drove me bananas.

It had also started turning into a RW-leaning channel and my b/p objected. In order to live longer, I shut them out.

[rockfordfile]

143. That has been going especially since KO left

The racist stunt they pulled on Melissa Harris-Perry.

The far right idiots they put on for example, Nicole Wallace a person who worked for one of the most un-American Presidents.

The right wing pos Scarborough scumbag is what people have been calling that idiot.

Everybody already makes fun of the Faux News, and everybody knows it's right wing propaganda.

[colsohlibgal]

144. Have Not Watched Anytime Lately

They used to have true progressives there but not anymore. And I have lost all respect for Rachel, Chris Hayes, and O'Donnell.

[VOX]

146. C-SPAN for the convention, NO talking heads & cross-chatter...

Other news I get online from various publications: The New Yorker, NY Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times. Cable news (any station) is simply unwatchable.

[Brainstormy]

148. Dead. n/t

[GeorgeGist]

149. It's D E S P I C A B L E.

[redstatebluegirl]

151. As of today yes.

[redwitch]

153. Stopped watching MSNBC months ago.

Trash TV.

[FrenchieCat]

154. Totally done with them.....

[librechik]

155. Who?

[Bill USA]

157. I have pretty much given up on all M$M. (C-Span's ok) to know what's really going on stick to good

internet sites.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

159. Their new promo where they show all their stars is Rachel alone with right-wingers.

[tom_kelly]

160. I stopped watching them about a year ago.

I used to think they were good. Then Olberman left. Then Cenk. I no longer get my news from corporations who have to fill 24 hours of "news" 7 days a week.

[B Calm]

161. No, I'm still watching them.

[CajunBlazer]

163. Never started watching them

I don't like my news pre-chued into liberal pablum prior to my consumption.

That editorial position can lead a network to cater to a section of it's viewing audience that they can't afford to lose in a manner that ticks off other viewers. From what I have read here on DU, it sounds like that is what is happening.

[rtracey]

165. completely

I have not looked at that shit station in 2 years. even though everyone loves Rachel Maddow, she is a spooge too. She used to be a leader and an advocate for many progressive agenda, but shes in bed with the conservatives too.

[broadcaster75201]

166. Pretty much since Olbermann left. haven't watched in years NT

NT

[retrowire]

168. checking in 6 yrs ago right here

Haven't watched TV for 6 yrs.

When people ask me about game of thrones I'm like I dunno

[wildeyed]

171. Yes, CSPAN and CNN have been better.

I am not a huge cable news fan, but I have been tuning in for convention coverage. I did not consciously decide to watch CSPAN and CNN. I would start on MSNBC and after 10 minutes think, Oh hell no! and switch.

Also, I like Van Jones on CNN.

[spooky3]

172. I was very annoyed when Tweety and 3 other men talked over Joy Reid

The other night. She stood her ground but it was rude. No show should have such a gender imbalance. If I wanted to watch that dynamic, I'd tune into Morning Joe.

[Spider Jerusalem]

173. They never had me

I find the obsession with cable news that a lot of people here have to be rather quaint, honestly (and indicative of how old the overall DU demographic is; the median age for the audience of all three major cable news networks is over 60).

[spooky3]

174. Let's not be ageist. The demographics for mindless reality shows

Skew younger, but does that mean young people are less smart than older ones? It's not as if people who are not watching political shows are all out there working, volunteering, creating great art, etc.

[Spider Jerusalem]

175. No, they're probably getting their news in other ways than from television

I haven't watched the news on TV pretty much ever, I prefer to read (and everyone has a smartphone these days, it seems like, so most people are probably getting their news online).

[spooky3]

178. essentially you are arguing what I suggested. And how do you

Know that many people watching the cable news shows are not also reading news online just as you do? And maybe many younger people are watching reality or other shows on tv rather than reading news online?

My point is that you shouldn't be taking a swipe at people based on demographics and you don't know what most people not watching these shows do.

[Spider Jerusalem]

183. The largest decline in TV viewership is in the 18-34 demographic

I know more young people aren't watching TV because I pay attention to the data on media consumption patterns. Cable TV viewers tend to be old, this is a fact. DU members also tend to be old (every poll I've seen of "how old are you" on this site has a majority in the over-50 bracket). Stating an obvious fact isn't "taking a swipe at people".

[muntrv]

176. Once they got rid of Olbermann, MSNBC went downhill.

[hellbound-liberal]

177. Done! For many of the same reasons.

Rachel has even been getting on my nerves. The only one who consistently supports Dems in word and deed. I may go back to watching 9-11 after the convention but not until then. C-Span for me!

[Agnosticsherbet]

180. I will check back in after the election.

[marlakay]

181. Stopped long time ago

I watch TYT or PBS or local news.

[MelSC]

182. I still watch CNN

MSNBC was always a bit much for me. After Rachel attacking Bill Clinton's amazing speech!? Are you kidding me?

[AngryAmish]

184. This post is fourish years old.

Comcast does not pay Rachel Maddow 8 million a year to tell the truth.


And if you believe otherwise, you are a mark.

Toss a ring for a buck, mark.

[elfin]

185. Same here. Joy Reid is the only one worth watching.

Either as a guest host or contributor.

I HATE what has happened to my go to channel. Public radio for me during the day for any news. Otherwise, Netflix and other diversions.

[Demsrule86]

186. I can't stand them. I used to love the channel... nt

[Third Doctor]

188. They lost me a year ago.

They have gone too far to the right and I can't stomach that.

[DemonGoddess]

189. CSpan for me too

[kerry-is-my-prez]

190. Mostly stopped when they fired Olbermann. They treated Hillary like crap the last election. They've

done a 180 this time around.

[usaf-vet]

191. Gone for months. RM has become a use to be.

She has taken a great career and made it into just another talking head. Hopefully she will find a job in academia where she will again focus on truths.

[StarzGuy]

192. Best Said

I feel the same way. WTF? Rachel has gone off the deep end in her non stop putting down every democrat who happens to give a speech. What does she expect? It has been MSGOP for a while now but THIS convention does it for me too. I will watch live on CrubluSPAN. However, I will not watch when they have a never ending angry tea partiers calling in to trash our candidate.

[Yallow]

193. Rachel Pushed Hillary So Hard I Couldn't Stand Watching MSNBC Any More

I now watch CNN.

I am sure Bernie was a novelty, and talking about him was cool in the beginning. When the bosses realized if Bernie won, and got the money out of politics, as he said he would, and began gaining ground on HRC he had to be stopped. At any cost.

The cost was my viewership.

Hello CNN and your straight faced lying "conservative" commentators. Conservatives who push an economic system where most of us are victims to a handful of powerful elites. Guests and pundits who spout open unchallenged lies about everything from Reagan to healthcare. Not like you do a body count of the victims in the states like Texas where the governor refused to expand Medicaid and thousands upon thousands died needlessly.

We (us viewers who like to watch tv) are so screwed by the corporate media it makes me sick.

[JeaneRaye]

194. Yes, indeed.

MSNBC pretty much lost me months ago. I was sickened by the continuous Trump coverage, the all in for Hillary coverage and the ignore Bernie (non) coverage. Yep, there are much better news sources if one is really interested. Check out FSTV or RT. Both are heads above MSNBC. Cspan is good also. PBS is ok but I have to question a network that has the Koch brothers as big contributors.

[MynameisBlarney]

195. Kill your television.

You'll be happier for it.
That is all.

[workinclasszero]

197. I would but football season is right around the corner

Go Chiefs!!!!!

[MynameisBlarney]

200. lol

My regional sports team is superior to your regional sports team!

[workinclasszero]

202. Hey!

[backscatter712]

198. Used to watch them during the Keith Olbermann days.

Now they're complete shit.

I cut the cord with the cable company - my cable connection is Internet only.

I tend to listen to the Progressive Voices internet radio stream, that's like the good old days of Air America, with Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, etc.

[ecstatic]

199. Not totally, but I have been watching CNN more.

CNN has a more diverse panel, although they have one or two disgusting regulars (like that disgusting racist cop Harry Houck). At the same time, it's hard to throw away anchors that I've watched for over 10 years. I like to hear what Joy Reid, Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, and even Chris Matthews has to say.

[lapucelle]

201. They've lost me.

Someone should forward them this thread.

[Tactical Peek]

203. Andrea Mitchell,

retire and make room.

TIA

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

221. I. can. not. watch. her. UGH

nt

[DonCoquixote]

204. the only peopel I was going to defend

were o donell and Maddow, but after Maddow attacked Bill, she can hang with Chris Matthews.

[stone space]

205. I don't have cable, but damn! What ever happened to gavel to gavel coverage?

I seem to remember seeing that on broadcast TV a few years ago. Am I just imagining it? Or has the internet effected my memory and my expectations over the decades?

[NikkiTaMere]

206. really gone downhill

I mute TweetyBird now whenever he comes on, & it's a bit better.

& basically don't watch if they don't have a good panel -- & am really shocked that they go so far for youth w/o any real background in politics, & especially history.

I found the commentary about conventions, e.g, as notable for showing how none of them had any knowledge of anything that hasn't happened in the last 8 years (at most). They showed no understanding of past campaigns that speak to the issues

& little things -- like, when Cruz dissed NYCity, I never heard ANYONE mention Al Smith's election & how anti-city/anti-immigrant that GOP was; or Wm Jennings Bryan, "the cities will die" in 1896

[pointsoflight]

208. Yep. On Monday....

...I started off switching across the different networks. MSNBC was total, total crap for all of the reasons we've been talking about. CNN has had way better coverage. No more MSNBC for me.

[Binkie The Clown]

210. I left when Keith did. Not going back either. n/t

[unitedwethrive]

211. CNN has more objective and less maddening coverage

[Firebrand Gary]

212. MSNBC Gets the bird and CSPAN gets a viewer!

[Puppyjive]

214. Follow the money

Follow the money. They cater to Wall Street and pharmaceutical companies. It's not journalism.

[lovemydog]

215. C Span rocks.

CNN's coverage has been good too.

I haven't watched MSNBC in over a year. I just got sick of all the 'inside baseball' stuff.

Also got tired of people saying stuff like 'turn on Keith now' or 'turn on Rachel now.'

We need to hear different people's points of view. We need to listen to each other.

Fox is factless, baseless hate filled propaganda.

MSNBC is overheated rhetoric, talking about a lot of stuff that no one cares much about.

[uhnope]

216. their debate was shamelessly biased against Sanders and now this "girl" thing is ridiculous

I don't watch commercial TV anyway so it was easy to ignore MSNBC

[anniebelle]

218. MSNBC lost me years ago!

At best, they were CNN light ~ at worst, they were auditioning for FOX. There are not always two different sides to a story ~ well, there's a right side and a wrong side. MSNBC likes to portray them as equal. I have found all of them to be entertainers, not journalists or reporters, and certainly not deep thinkers.

[TxVietVet]

220. I'm done with MSNBC.

There was hope at one time for a different somewhat progressive media outlet, but that all went away with Keith Olbermann and Ed Schultz's being removed from the news line up.

[Historic NY]

222. I no long watch MSM period....its CSPAN for it unbiased coverage...

[tavernier]

223. I'm actually loving it!! Seeing Joe Scar turning into a democrat

is worth having to bypass the rest of the nonsense.

[Mass]

224. Definitively...

Too many reasons, but I stop watching months ago because I got tired to see a Trump rally each time I was connecting to see it.

I understand by reading DU it is not going any better, and as in addition, they have not been able to get with an Android app that works, there is no chance I will come back any time soon.

I am avoiding CNN as well as much as I can, because I am tired to see panels with Trump surrogates that can spew their lies without anchor people intervening.