2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat causes certain states to be red all the time?
Why are states like MS, OK, AL, GA, TX, etc always red? What makes them out of reach to win for Dems in the elections?
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Smuckies
(692 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)They have a sense of loss and anxiety about living in a country they don't recognize.
LeftInTX
(25,555 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)Some people aren't ever going to vote for the other guy. If too many people are like that, it becomes a "safe state."
JustFiveMoreMinutes
(2,133 posts)1) Religion
2) Affirmative Action
3) Abortion
4) Gay Rights
5) Immigration
6) Education
7) Tolerance
2Design
(9,099 posts)Smuckies
(692 posts)maybe a chance if we campaign there
2Design
(9,099 posts)AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)in Georgia, at least.
Georgia used to have a Democratic Governor and Senator.
Then the Diebold voting machinez went in, and they "lost"
despite substantial leads in all pre-election polls.
Double-digit vote flipping in the 2002 elections.
No Democrat has won a statewide office in Georgia since.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)Sorry, but the main thing that seems different to me is the percentage of intense religious types, whether they're Baptist, S.Baptist, M. Baptist, Catholic, or Mormon. They are raised at the teat of ignorance and obedience through blind faith. Republicans rely on their willingness to remain faithfully ignorant just as they are with their skydaddy religious intensity.
Anthony McCarthy
(507 posts)people to feel smug and superior. People knowing that folks feel smug and superior to them is not likely to persuade them. It will make them angry.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)The drone of human instructions imagined to be from non-existent authority figures to whom they bow, kneel, differ their thinking to, and believe through faith rather than reason and fact simply overpowers anything one might suggest to the contrary, even if one is of their ilk. If one is not, one should simply not waste one's time.
I can change a winger's POV, but not a religious winger. Those states have a very high devout religious percentage of populace. What else do you see that is consistent through all?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)kydo
(2,679 posts)phantom power
(25,966 posts)Remember, the GOP has adhered to the "Southern Strategy" for the last 40 years, where "Southern" is euphemism for "Former Confederacy"
jenw2
(374 posts)BarKim
(48 posts)If you look at GA. You will see that Obama won all the major cities like Atlanta, Savanna, and Athens with a lot of their surrounding counties. What Romney won was all the rural CO that make up most of the state.
MANative
(4,112 posts)academic achievement. Deliberate dumbing-down of the electorate with drastic and ongoing underfunding of education.
Anthony McCarthy
(507 posts)How soon you forget. Georgia went for the Democrat in 1976 and 1992. Texas gave us LBJ. When Eugene Debs ran for president his vote in OK was higher than it was in the industrial North East.
And Texas is on the cusp of being majority "minority". Things change. Why they change is complex.
If we didn't have the Electoral College liberals in Alabama would count so Alabama wouldn't be "red". It's an artificial situation.
Smuckies
(692 posts)Anthony McCarthy
(507 posts)it's worth trying. I remember when saw Georgia put in Clinton's column I was sure he'd won the election.
Pisces
(5,602 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)It is quite clear that in the US the more urban the more liberal.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Agricultural chemical run-off or some kind of brain-eating micro-organism.
Blue4Texas
(437 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)they fervently believe to be "THE" right one. The main details that influenced them during the period 1750-2012 were religion, slavery, agriculture, education,war, plus whatever ideas they had brought with them from their Countries of origin.
Of course, MS, AL, GA and TX were solidly Democratic until the Civil Rights Movement launched the racial integration of the public schools in the South. After that, for certain unspecified reasons, a majority of the White people in the Southern States abandoned the Democratic Party and moved en mass to the Republican fold.