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babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:37 PM Aug 2016

AN OPEN LETTER TO DONALD TRUMP FROM A VETERAN

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/08/02/1555560/-AN-OPEN-LETTER-TO-DONALD-TRUMP-FROM-A-VETERAN?detail=facebook


AN OPEN LETTER TO DONALD TRUMP FROM A VETERAN
By CrashW
Monday Aug 01, 2016 · 9:06 PM EST


Your disrespect, no, condescension shown to a Gold Star Mother has really moved you beyond the pale. You are now an outcast and I’ll patiently explain why that is so.

You did not serve. I do not begrudge you your student deferments, or your high number in the draft lottery. It’s the very suspect period in between that gnaws at me. You got a medical deferment for “bone spurs” in your foot, and you can’t remember which foot it was. Could that be because you went to the draft physical with someone else’s x-rays? That could account for you not remembering which foot was so bad it kept you out of the Army. That kind of thing was done regularly and I have personally known people who faked x-rays with the collusion of their family doctor.

Those of us who did serve did not, for the most part, really want to be there. We did what was expected of us and some, like myself, found ourselves in Vietnam. I’m not complaining. I had an easy job in Saigon. I was what they call in the Army an REMF (Rear Echelon Mother F…), and the worst kind! A Saigon Warrior! But there is something I share with every man who’s job was to risk his life every day - I had a mother who sat at home and spent a full year with her heart in her throat.

Did you, Donald, ever do something that had your mother as nervous as a cat, for one year straight? Even we who were in Vietnam by and large never thought about it at the time. We came to realize it as we got older.

This gives us, and anyone else who had to serve in a war zone, a special bond with Gold Star Mothers. There, but for the grace of God, goes my mother.


I can weep for Mrs. Kahn who felt that dread every day her son was at war. I know because of the living hell my mother went through while I was gone overseas. But there was no relief for Mrs. Kahn, she was sick with worry and was paid for her pain with the worst pain of all for a mother.

You, Mr. Trump have no conscience, and never had the need to develop one. I pity you. As I said, you are now beyond the pale. You have removed yourself from the society of decent people.

US Army Draftee 1967-1969

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AN OPEN LETTER TO DONALD TRUMP FROM A VETERAN (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2016 OP
"THIS"!!! tonyt53 Aug 2016 #1
If he was ever there in the first place. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #2
Thank you for posting this, babylonsister. democrank Aug 2016 #3
I have been waiting for VETS from all wars to say this to the GOP leadership for years! Liberal In Red State Aug 2016 #4
I know that dread, thinking of it still upsets me stopwastingmymoney Aug 2016 #5
Beautifully said, from your fellow REMF, US Army Draftee 1966-1968 Glorfindel Aug 2016 #6
Having both my little brother and me serving in Vietnam together was tough enough on mom pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #7
My god. Your mom must have been frantic. auntpurl Aug 2016 #8
I have always felt awful about doing that to my mom pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #10
I'm so sorry to hear that. You survived, Hortensis Aug 2016 #13
Those of us who survived count our blessings and suffer our survivor guilt pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #15
P.S.--On a humorous note, I'm so glad you put that period in your post. pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #16
Oh! So am I. Hortensis Aug 2016 #17
:) pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #18
Holy moly! I had babylonsister Aug 2016 #9
Early in the VN War, even combat death notifications were still by telegram pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #12
oh pinboy, KMOD Aug 2016 #19
For 9 months she was coming from L.A to SF to see me in the hospital pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #21
Even my tears thank you for this post. raven mad Aug 2016 #11
You have remove yourself from the society of decent people malaise Aug 2016 #14
Purple Heart vets now know the answer pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #20
Damn. progressoid Aug 2016 #22
4. I have been waiting for VETS from all wars to say this to the GOP leadership for years!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:46 PM
Aug 2016

It is time that VETS let the GOP know that any respect for the military for all these years has been nothing but politics! The swift boating of John Kerry was outrageous . . . The smears of Al Gore's service in light of GW's stateside service was rediculous when Chaney and his ilk did nothing.

Glorfindel

(9,739 posts)
6. Beautifully said, from your fellow REMF, US Army Draftee 1966-1968
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

Thank you, babylonsister, for posting this.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. Having both my little brother and me serving in Vietnam together was tough enough on mom
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:38 PM
Aug 2016

Then she got the telegram notifying her that I'd been seriously wounded. After I was medevac'd back to the States, mom's youngest son still had another 9 months to serve in-country.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
8. My god. Your mom must have been frantic.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:04 PM
Aug 2016

I'm so sorry that happened to you, and I'm so glad you made it home.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
15. Those of us who survived count our blessings and suffer our survivor guilt
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:27 AM
Aug 2016

Especially when a Gold Star Mother tells me she's glad I made it.

babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
9. Holy moly! I had
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:06 PM
Aug 2016

no idea telegrams like this were sent out. Your mom must have been a wreck! And I am so glad you're here to tell the story!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
12. Early in the VN War, even combat death notifications were still by telegram
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 04:44 AM
Aug 2016

As accurately depicted in the movie 'We Were Soldiers,' where a Cav unit was fighting a major battle in Vietnam in '65 and the unit commander's wife stopped the taxi driver who was delivering telegrams to families on the post and instructed him to deliver all the telegrams to her so she could deliver them personally.

The Army was very good about keeping families informed about wounded troops. They sent followup telegrams to my mother and brothers when I was medevac'd to an ICU in Japan, and again when I was medevac'd from there to California a week later.

Mom was afraid to come to see me at first, until my older brother and his wife were able to drive her from L.A. to San Francisco for a visit. Unfortunately, they walked into my hospital room just when the shoulder bandage was off and the medic was irrigating the wound. My older brother, a former Marine, staggered out of the room and grabbed onto a drinking fountain in the hall to keep from passing out.

This is all long ago and far away for me now, but I can't forget how my family was affected just by my being wounded. Even my little brother, who finished his remaining 9 months in Vietnam. At that point he had his choice of great assignments in Europe. Instead, he chose assignment to Oakland Army Base in California, a real pithole of a place, just to be near me at Letterman Army Hospital in SF, where I was still hospitalized.

For 9 months my mom was making trips to SF to see me in the hospital while still worrying frantically about her youngest, who was still in Vietnam.

That's what I put my family through. And we weren't even a Gold Star family. Mom is gone now, but I still feel guilty knowing what I put her through.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
21. For 9 months she was coming from L.A to SF to see me in the hospital
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:25 AM
Aug 2016

While her baby was still in Vietnam. I saw some of the effects then, and saw a lot more in hindsight.

malaise

(269,225 posts)
14. You have remove yourself from the society of decent people
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:28 AM
Aug 2016

My only question is - was he ever part of that society?

Excellent letter

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. Purple Heart vets now know the answer
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:14 AM
Aug 2016

I heard on local news that a spokesman for the Military Order of the Purple Heart issued a statement saying basically that Trump has no clue about what that medal means. They normally don't get involved in politics, but good for them!

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