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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:58 PM Aug 2016

New poll shows Trump with commanding lead over Clinton in Tennessee

In some areas of the Country, Trump's support is actually growing as he has sharpened his attacks on Muslims, Hillary Clinton, establishment Republicans, and reality in general.

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2016/08/02/campaign-watch-new-poll-shows-trump-with.html

If the 2016 presidential election were held today, Republican nominee Donald Trump would easily best his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton in Tennessee, according to a new poll of registered voters.

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In a survey conducted from July 25-27 (during the Democratic National Convention), 49 percent of respondents favored Trump compared to 33 percent in favor of Clinton. Eighteen percent said they were undecided.

The poll showed strong party support for both candidates, but Trump also outpaced Clinton in this area: 88 percent of Tennessee Republicans supported their party's nominee, compared to 80 percent support among Tennessee Democrats for the former secretary of state.

Mark Keida, icitizen's vice president of polling and research, said the poll's biggest takeaway is that Trump has strengthened his support among Republican voters in Tennessee, with 32 percent of supporters saying they "strongly" favor Trump compared to 23 percent of Democratic voters favoring Clinton with the same intensity.
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New poll shows Trump with commanding lead over Clinton in Tennessee (Original Post) TomCADem Aug 2016 OP
This worries me. Ilsa Aug 2016 #1
I believe we can win it without TN. nt glennward Aug 2016 #4
I'm worried about the overall possibility that Ilsa Aug 2016 #47
Worried? nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #54
Has Tennessee ever gone democratic? yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #9
RE: Has Tennessee ever gone democratic? eastsidemanglerNY Aug 2016 #12
Bill Clinton won the state in 1996 and 1992 oberliner Aug 2016 #13
Both Al Gore and his father were popular Senators from Tennessee. So that was no surprise. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #15
his father lost for being too liberal and Gore was seen as more conservative, and since then JI7 Aug 2016 #36
Tennessee worries you? Did you think we'd win that state? sufrommich Aug 2016 #41
No, just the overall possibility that Ilsa Aug 2016 #45
I hear what you are saying, but I am confident in Donald's ability to keep disgusting people anew. Squinch Aug 2016 #57
Your concern is noted Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #51
No, not this one poll. I'm concerned about the next Ilsa Aug 2016 #60
It is early days Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #61
I'm optimistic, but also realistic. Ilsa Aug 2016 #65
You're right and damn Indiana favors tRump too! MyNameGoesHere Aug 2016 #67
Tennessee Republicans embracing a bigoted asshole? geek tragedy Aug 2016 #2
Tennessee is pretty red. KMOD Aug 2016 #3
Civitas/SUSA poll today has Trump +4 in North Carolina TeddyR Aug 2016 #5
Just 2 matter MFM008 Aug 2016 #21
Perhaps TeddyR Aug 2016 #22
No way Hillary loses Nevada and Colorado. nt Cali_Democrat Aug 2016 #28
Teddy seems concerned molova Aug 2016 #32
If you aren't you should be TeddyR Aug 2016 #34
I'm not. Not at all molova Aug 2016 #44
Why? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #52
He often seems that way... Squinch Aug 2016 #58
Concern trolls are no longer welcome on DU. yardwork Aug 2016 #42
I'm not sure how to identify a "concern troll" TeddyR Aug 2016 #63
Sorry Teddy, Hillary now up 15% in New Hampshire molova Aug 2016 #49
No cell phones molova Aug 2016 #26
I've noticed a curious phenomenon here TeddyR Aug 2016 #35
Are you denying this poll was criticized by experts? molova Aug 2016 #43
Why would we tear apart a positive poll? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #53
Why don't you take on that task? You go ahead and be the positive poll debunker. Squinch Aug 2016 #59
I don't feel a need to debunk one poll TeddyR Aug 2016 #62
Still. You are concerned about the fact that no one is sufficiently negative Squinch Aug 2016 #64
I live in TN. AirmensMom Aug 2016 #6
How absolutely frustrating and annoying. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #25
Hello from Murfreesboro! cheapdate Aug 2016 #29
arrrgh DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #38
Seeing the same. Lars39 Aug 2016 #40
+1 n/t okieinpain Aug 2016 #50
The North Carolina Poll looks like an outlier VMA131Marine Aug 2016 #7
Actually, No, that is no longer correct CajunBlazer Aug 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author CajunBlazer Aug 2016 #19
I'm aware of that VMA131Marine Aug 2016 #23
In Tennessee, they still think the sun goes to bed at night.. dubyadiprecession Aug 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author MFM008 Aug 2016 #10
Screw Tennessee Orcrist Aug 2016 #11
I'm not surprised Libby2 Aug 2016 #14
And Diane Black and Marsha Blackburn. cheapdate Aug 2016 #30
Yes, sadly, them too. n/t Libby2 Aug 2016 #66
Wait until they debate. JaneyVee Aug 2016 #16
Exactly! unitedwethrive Aug 2016 #33
Makes sense I live in this shit state MelSC Aug 2016 #18
Big Frinking deal CajunBlazer Aug 2016 #20
It is the state of... LenaBaby61 Aug 2016 #24
God, I hate that woman.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #31
The Dem candidate has lost TN by an average of ~17 percentage points... Garrett78 Aug 2016 #27
this is comparable to a poll showing the Democratic Pres Candidate is leading in Massachusetts JI7 Aug 2016 #37
It's the bible belt. I guess Trump in their eyes will save the unborn. B Calm Aug 2016 #39
Trump is even running behind Romney in TN--in 2012 Romney won by 20 points book_worm Aug 2016 #46
well, the stupid here is pretty thick spanone Aug 2016 #48
Trump is a Duck Dynasty candidate liberal N proud Aug 2016 #55
Well sure. He'll win KY and WV too whatthehey Aug 2016 #56
Poll taken before end of DNC Convention. Clinton would never win TN; Trump should be crushing Justice Aug 2016 #68

Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
1. This worries me.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:01 PM
Aug 2016

I think some people just get used to the insanity and go back to favoring the racist ass.

Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
47. I'm worried about the overall possibility that
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:42 AM
Aug 2016

a lot of voters in the middle in many states will get accustomed to Trump's craziness and start blowing it off and vote for him. I'm afraid they'll buy into the excuses that he'll be "handled" by family as president. I worry that for voters, his authoritarianism and big male presence will win out over his irrational behavior.

12. RE: Has Tennessee ever gone democratic?
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:47 PM
Aug 2016

The 1996 Clinton/Gore reelection was the last time Tennessee voted Democratic. Gore/Lieberman didn't carry TN in 2000 (especially considering that it's Al's home state) and has consistently voted Republican ever since.

JI7

(89,279 posts)
36. his father lost for being too liberal and Gore was seen as more conservative, and since then
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:34 AM
Aug 2016

Tennessee has gone much more conservative which is why Gore lost .

Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
45. No, just the overall possibility that
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:40 AM
Aug 2016

a lot of voters in the middle in many states will get accustomed to Trump's craziness and start blowing it off and vote for him. I'm afraid they'll buy into the excuses that he'll be "handled" by family as president. I worry that for voters, his authoritarianism and big male presence will win out over his irrational behavior.

Squinch

(51,057 posts)
57. I hear what you are saying, but I am confident in Donald's ability to keep disgusting people anew.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:37 AM
Aug 2016

He is up to the task of keeping the disgust fresh.

But you are right in that the worst thing we can do is be complacent.

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
51. Your concern is noted
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:45 AM
Aug 2016

However, when was the last time any Dem took Tennessee? That would be 1996. When the Dems swept the GOP out of office and Gingrich resigned as a result (impeachment outrage). The Dems have taken Tennessee 3 times in 36 years-1976(Watergate),1992 (Ross Perot),and 1996(Clinton impeachment). Why you would think a state with this voting history would go for Hillary is puzzling. All the good news and you are so concerned about this one poll in a red, red state?

Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
60. No, not this one poll. I'm concerned about the next
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:43 AM
Aug 2016

96 days (or whatever is left). I do worry about low information voters changing their minds, new smears and "leaks", and possibly Trump pulling together his speeches and attacks. We have a long way to go, and voters can be fickle. I hope and pray and will work for maintaining this lead, but we also know the gop loves dirty tricks and ratfucking.

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
61. It is early days
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:17 AM
Aug 2016

Polls will go up and polls will go down. We could lose the lead and get it back, we could ride the lead until November. The polls were mostly wrong in 12. But it is demoralizing to concentrate on bad news in my opinion...have you seen the good polls? A poll captures a moment in time...by the time we even see it...there has been a change. We can work very hard to elect Sec. Clinton. I find it hard to believe Trump could win, but I know hate sells...thus I am all in.

Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
65. I'm optimistic, but also realistic.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:41 AM
Aug 2016

Been through so many, since 1976 for my first presidential GE. I just wish the election was next week!

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
3. Tennessee is pretty red.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:02 PM
Aug 2016

Romney got 60% to President Obama's 40%.

So 49%-33% isn't too bad this early in the game, considering.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
22. Perhaps
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:06 AM
Aug 2016

But if Hillary can't carry Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and Colorado then way more than 2 matter.

 

molova

(543 posts)
44. I'm not. Not at all
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:36 AM
Aug 2016

I think you are concerned, just not because you think Hillary is in danger of losing.

yardwork

(61,722 posts)
42. Concern trolls are no longer welcome on DU.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:29 AM
Aug 2016

If you see a concern troll, please alert on their posts. Thanks.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
63. I'm not sure how to identify a "concern troll"
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:27 AM
Aug 2016

Please enlighten me so I'll know which posts to alert on and let me know what TOS is violated.

 

molova

(543 posts)
49. Sorry Teddy, Hillary now up 15% in New Hampshire
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:43 AM
Aug 2016
http://www.wbur.org/politicker/2016/08/04/clinton-over-trump-new-hampshire-poll

And your alleged concern in Colorado has no basis whatsoever due to Hillary's lead there in the latest CO polls.
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
35. I've noticed a curious phenomenon here
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 04:32 AM
Aug 2016

Every time a poll shows Hillary behind it is "criticized by experts," and if a poll shows her ahead nobody says a thing about its accuracy

 

molova

(543 posts)
43. Are you denying this poll was criticized by experts?
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:32 AM
Aug 2016

I know you saw the links to experts criticizing the NC poll.
You are curiously annoyed by criticism of a poll finding Hillary behind. Why?

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
53. Why would we tear apart a positive poll?
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:52 AM
Aug 2016

We want Hillary to win and would not engage in an activity certain to demoralize the base. Also, I don't post about it but I look at all polls internals. I am a math person so if the information pertaining the poll is there I can evaluate it somewhat. Right now she is ahead in states that matter. Tennessee is not one that matters.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
62. I don't feel a need to debunk one poll
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:26 AM
Aug 2016

Or justify the results of another. I take them for what they are - a snapshot of electorate opinion on a certain day. The concern is when there is a trend, like the trend of Trump catching Hill leading up to and immediately after the Republican convention. The trend certainly seems much more favorable now.

Squinch

(51,057 posts)
64. Still. You are concerned about the fact that no one is sufficiently negative
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:33 AM
Aug 2016

about positive polls. You are concerned that when a negative poll shows up, we look for reasons why it might not be valid.

You are concerned that no one set their hair on fire over the miniscule RNC bump "trend".

You totally ought to do something about that. Because of your concerns.

AirmensMom

(14,649 posts)
6. I live in TN.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:10 PM
Aug 2016

There are Trump signs everywhere. This place is unbelievably racist and ignorant. I don't mean to paint with a broad brush, but really ... Many of the people in this area are a perfect example of why we need to invest more in education and tax the churches for preaching politics from the pulpit. They "like that Trump speaks his mind" but couldn't say what it is that Trump actually plans to do if elected. And the women vote Republican because their moms tell them to. Then they say, "I really don't pay any attention, but I don't like Hillary."

VMA131Marine

(4,158 posts)
7. The North Carolina Poll looks like an outlier
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:19 PM
Aug 2016

SUSA is the only repeated poll that consistently shows Trump leading. They must have a weird voter model:

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more at: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/north-carolina/#now

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
17. Actually, No, that is no longer correct
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 11:48 PM
Aug 2016

Nate Silver's predictions for North Carolina have flipped completely since July 31st. He now shows Clinton in the lead 56.2% to 43.8% for Trump in the polls he has adjusted for bias. .

Silver is now giving Hillary a 51.8% chance of winning NC in November with Trump having a 48.2% chance of winning.

Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #17)

VMA131Marine

(4,158 posts)
23. I'm aware of that
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:06 AM
Aug 2016

that snapshot I posted is directly from the FiveThirtyEight Now-Cast for North Carolina. The new poll is included in the projection, but the project is still that Hillary would win if the election were held today.

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

 

Orcrist

(73 posts)
11. Screw Tennessee
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:46 PM
Aug 2016

Al Gore lost in Tennessee back in 2000 and it was his home state. I don't think that it's a place Democrats like us should spend much time worrying about. We aren't going to win it but thankfully we don't need it.

Libby2

(4,629 posts)
14. I'm not surprised
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 11:28 PM
Aug 2016

says the woman that lives in the land of Scott DeJarlais and Sheila Butt.

It's so discouraging and frustrating.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
20. Big Frinking deal
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:00 AM
Aug 2016

Did any one give Hillary any chance of winning Tennessee 11 electoral votes? Does anyone care? And guess what, Trump also has an excellent chance of winning Alabama's 9 electoral votes. Who cares? Those states haven't voted for a Democrat since Clinton/Gore and Gore was a Tennessee native.

Meanwhile Silver is giving Hillary a 98.% chance of picking u[p California's 55 electoral votes and 98.6% chance of winning New York's 29 electoral votes

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
24. It is the state of...
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:15 AM
Aug 2016

Marsha Blackburn.



Need I say more? That woman is a truly NASTY, VILE and DUMB piece of work.

IF we get out and work hard and don't become complainant, vote and GOTV and don't lean too heavily on polling favoring Hillary NOW or LATER on this fall, we should be "okay" without Tennessee's 11 electoral votes.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
27. The Dem candidate has lost TN by an average of ~17 percentage points...
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:23 AM
Aug 2016

...over the last 3 presidential elections. And Romney won TN by more than 20 points. White, male, veteran John Kerry lost TN by 14 points.

Even Gore lost TN.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
46. Trump is even running behind Romney in TN--in 2012 Romney won by 20 points
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:41 AM
Aug 2016

Hey, Democrats aren't going to win them all. There are some states, Tennessee among them, that will vote GOP no matter what.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
56. Well sure. He'll win KY and WV too
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:29 AM
Aug 2016

And of course plenty more besides that particular region - most of the usual big red L.

But you are just as much President with a fairly safe 290+ and likely 330-350 as you would be with 500+ EVs. Losing deep red states is neither a surprise nor a worry.

Justice

(7,188 posts)
68. Poll taken before end of DNC Convention. Clinton would never win TN; Trump should be crushing
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:55 AM
Aug 2016

it but he is not. Wonder what poll would look like from TN today?

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