2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere is what Jill Stein's VP has to say about Bernie Sanders (Not pretty)
Do Non-European Lives really Matter to White Leftists?The political reaction to the killing spree in Yemen that now eclipses the murderous assault on Gaza by Israel, has not only been met with indifference but many leftists and radicals in the U.S. have given their support to Bernie Sanders who said very clearly that under his administration the Saudis would be given even more latitude to carry out military operations in the Middle-East.
The Sanders position is that the Saudis needed to get their hands a little dirty.
For Bernie and his supporters, the mischief that the Saudi government and private individuals have been engaged in across the region financing groups like ISIS wasnt dirty enough.
After years of drone attacks from the U.S., the end of the agony of the people of Yemen is nowhere in sight. These attacks targeted weddings, funerals, first responders to an initial drone attack and so-called signature strikes where an anonymous person is murdered because he fits the behavior profile of a terrorist. After pounding the country into rubble with six months of terror from the sky, the Saudis are now involved in ground operations in Yemen that will only increase the death toll and the humanitarian disaster.
This is the world that a President Sanders promisescontinued war crimes from the sky with drone strikes and Saudi led terror in support of the Western imperial project.
This is not to suggest that everyone who might find a way to support Sanders is a closet racist and supporter of imperialism....
In their desperate attempt to defend Sanders and paint his critics as dogmatists and purists, the Sanders supporters have not only fallen into the ideological trap of a form of narrow left nativism, but also the white supremacist ethical contradiction that reinforces racist cynicism in which some lives are disposable for the greater good of the West.
And as much as the Sandernistas attempt to disarticulate Sanders progressive domestic policies from his documented support for empire (even the Obamaite aphorism The perfect is the enemy of the good is unashamedly deployed), it should be obvious that his campaign is an ideological prop albeit from a center/left position of the logic and interests of the capitalist-imperialist settler state.
Ajamu Baraka
http://www.ajamubaraka.com/the-yemen-tragedy-and-the-ongoing-crisis-of-the-left-in-the-united-states/
Glamrock
(11,803 posts)And I'm looking at you Fox...
THIS IS THE FAR LEFT! NOT EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU!
Fuck you very much, back to your regularly scheduled program.
Expecting Rain
(811 posts)What does FOX gave to do with it?
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Bernie is returning to the Senate with greatly increased influence. He's insanely popular here in Vermont. I guarantee you this doesn't bother Bernie at all. He's never been associated with the Green Party. Hell, he's not even a member of the VT Progressive Party- and they aren't endorsing Stein. They work closely with the Vermont dems. Both benefit.
I could not possibly care less what Stein or her running mate have to say. The Green Party is a mess. It's never had any success.
This is what a successful third party looks like:
https://progressiveparty.org/about-us/
And the progs already have one statewide office holder along with seats in both houses of the legislature. Soon we may have a P/D as Lt. Guv.
Maru Kitteh
(28,344 posts)And thus, should not be ignored.
cali
(114,904 posts)In fact all three dem candidates for guv recently went to the Prog convention to seek endorsements.
Maru Kitteh
(28,344 posts)hence, the photo
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,179 posts)join the Green Party. Getting Sanders on board is the only way the Greens break the 1% threshold. In other news Baraka's little screed is just plain incoherent. Just what is he advocating that the US do in Yemen? I don't think the US can resolve their tribal and religious divisions.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Bernie Sanders policies have always aligned on the sensible side with Clinton. A little tweeking and they have a positive platform for the future.
Sanders is not the radical extreme that Stein is.
She most certainly saw Sanders as a free ride to hitch her crazy cart to.
Judging by her VP choice it looks like she was more interested in Sanders popularity than his policy commitments.
He knew more than we did as to who Jill Stein is.
He left her on her own. And THAT is why she sent her VP to speak as he has about Sanders.
Revenge.
FUBAR
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Bitter? Party of one?
Your table is ready, ma'am.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Bernie should just ignore them.
Expecting Rain
(811 posts)calls President Obama a pro-capitalist flim-flam man.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Bernie doesn't want any part of them, so now they have to smear him.
Maru Kitteh
(28,344 posts)The quadrennial attempt at being spoilers in service of the Repuke party, while making no genuine effort to grow their party in earnest at the grassroots by fielding candidates for local offices where they could have an actual chance to WIN and matter, shows them for exactly what they are. Grifters, quacks and cranks who do the bidding of the GOP.
DinahMoeHum
(21,815 posts)n/t
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)what kind of goofy fucking bubble does someone need to dwell in, to spout that sort of inane, incoherent gibberish?
Really. I don't know how anyone can take a person who bargles that kind of nonsense seriously.
JudyM
(29,294 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,344 posts)her bitterness and what Jill Stein really thinks about Bernie supporters.
Jill Stein is bitter and angry as hell at Bernie, Turner, and anyone who doesn't fund her full-time employment as example A and leader of the perpetually oppressed lilly-white children of privilege.