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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:05 AM Aug 2016

What a piece of work Jill Stein is.. and that is not a compliment!

I just finished watching an interview with that blowhard on CNN.. I guess they are having a green forum tonight.. and my hand to GOD.. she sat there and attacked Hillary in another scream for investigations.. on the damn emails.. they did 7 of them stein.. if that is all she has, she is no better than trump.. maybe worse.. at least with trump we know he is in opposition to everything we stand for.. she is a freaking sheep in wolves clothing..

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What a piece of work Jill Stein is.. and that is not a compliment! (Original Post) Peacetrain Aug 2016 OP
Just because Jill Stein is a political opponent who straight up attacks Hillary... Curtland1015 Aug 2016 #1
My head still hurts from trying to listen to stein Peacetrain Aug 2016 #3
Stein gets a free hour of tv this Wed night on Cnn Funtatlaguy Aug 2016 #2
No Liberal or Progessive in theri right mind will vote for her Peacetrain Aug 2016 #4
Fell off the conch? Funtatlaguy Aug 2016 #8
ROFL.. I did!! Peacetrain Aug 2016 #12
I despise her...she is worst than Nader. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #5
I truthfullly had never really listened to her before.. Peacetrain Aug 2016 #9
Yes she is...and wants Trump elected. She is a selfish green person...they all hate Democrats. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #22
No doubt about that. People like Stein and Sarandon won't be the ones suffering under a Trump still_one Aug 2016 #27
Yes, they are care for nobodies...self centered...imagine the suffering a Trump presidency Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #28
You are right still_one Aug 2016 #33
I think the days of assuming that the Green Party, Tea Party or any other party MichiganVote Aug 2016 #6
I thought for sure I would listen to the Green forum..on CNN Peacetrain Aug 2016 #11
I would like to see some competition politically for the GOP and Dems. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #14
I am with you on that! Peacetrain Aug 2016 #17
Speaking of whavkadoodle.... Funtatlaguy Aug 2016 #18
Eliminate schools. social security etc.?, oh yeah, he has our attention (over 60 crowd) MichiganVote Aug 2016 #19
I'm not even talking about any wacky policies Funtatlaguy Aug 2016 #21
I'm not sure he would even be hired at a local Walmart myself. Go figure. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #25
Nonsense. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #23
Actually, a majority of primary voters voted against "change." BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #26
How are you figuring the numbers on that? Jim Lane Aug 2016 #29
Ted Cruz is a sitting Senator and a known entity. Your inclusion of him in "Change" BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #31
I say it's a matter of interpretation. Jim Lane Aug 2016 #36
A piece of something anyway grubbs Aug 2016 #7
That went through my mind too! Peacetrain Aug 2016 #13
She and her husband have a net worth of $3.9 million. - nt KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #10
I will be honest... I could care less how much or little money people have Peacetrain Aug 2016 #15
Wow, that will buy a lot of Funtatlaguy Aug 2016 #16
That's a nice crop of green TheCowsCameHome Aug 2016 #20
So why are people who defend her allowed to remain here? That makes no sense. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #24
The Green Party is going nowhere if they allow people like Stein to continue to "represent" them. TwilightZone Aug 2016 #30
I hope she and her VP (haha) utterly humiliate and expose themselves as Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #32
I will say her choice of a running mate was.....questionable... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #34
Stein and the Greenies are trying to get trump elected Gothmog Aug 2016 #35
At one time I would have disagreed but not now... George Eliot Aug 2016 #37
I saw the Trump/Putin Ass Puppet Orcrist Aug 2016 #38

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
1. Just because Jill Stein is a political opponent who straight up attacks Hillary...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:11 AM
Aug 2016

...Clinton at every chance she gets, lies about her, and buddies up with Putin supporters, doesn't mean you should say truthful things about her!!!

That's rude! We should see the spiteful liar who is literally running against us in the race and said Hillary is just as terrible as Trump as an ALLY and a FRIEND!

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
2. Stein gets a free hour of tv this Wed night on Cnn
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:12 AM
Aug 2016

My DVR is set to tape it at 9pm eastern.
I've never heard her interviewed.
But, she comes off as a little wacky in the few snippets I've seen of her.
Hoping she doesn't pull any votes from Hillary.


Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
4. No Liberal or Progessive in theri right mind will vote for her
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:15 AM
Aug 2016

So any votes she gets would have gone to Trump anyway.. after listening to that interview.. I almost fell off the couch..

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
8. Fell off the conch?
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:18 AM
Aug 2016

Do you live in Key West?
If so, I'll be right over with some marguerites ....lol.

Just joshin...know u meant couch.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
5. I despise her...she is worst than Nader.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:15 AM
Aug 2016

I hope more incompetent, though...A GOP dressed in far left skin...

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
9. I truthfullly had never really listened to her before..
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:18 AM
Aug 2016

and when she started spewing.. I realized why people are so put off by her.. I mean I had caught snippets here and there.. and thought.. well maybe they are editing for excitement.. because no liberal or progressive is going to fall for that (and they won't).. she is a ding bat

still_one

(92,204 posts)
27. No doubt about that. People like Stein and Sarandon won't be the ones suffering under a Trump
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:34 AM
Aug 2016

presidency.

In their illusions of grandeur they believe a Trump presidency would causes the masses to revolt, and after this revolution we would magically become a utopian society.

It isn't unlike Nader's view in 2000, and the result of that was a disaster across the board.

If the next President accomplished nothing else but changing the direction of the Supreme Court, that would have major significance


Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
28. Yes, they are care for nobodies...self centered...imagine the suffering a Trump presidency
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

would bring.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
6. I think the days of assuming that the Green Party, Tea Party or any other party
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:17 AM
Aug 2016

are only interested in promoting candidates for our elections is untrue. I believe that these smaller parties or initiatives think that the larger political parties, GOP and Dem. have had their day, do not contribute to the liberty and well being of citizens and consume all the political power in the country. They would like to see the major parties gone once and for all.

Maybe they are right. Maybe one day there will be a myriad of parties on our ballots that compete for votes. Maybe...only maybe.

In the meantime, the Democratic Party needs to keep in mind that remaining static increases the likelihood of a failed candidate like Donald Trump.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
11. I thought for sure I would listen to the Green forum..on CNN
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:20 AM
Aug 2016

but after that little performance.. it would be a waste of time..that became quickly obvious..

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
14. I would like to see some competition politically for the GOP and Dems.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:23 AM
Aug 2016

But these people just come off as more whack a doodle than Trump and I believe I've had my fill of that.

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
18. Speaking of whavkadoodle....
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:27 AM
Aug 2016

Have you heard Gary Johnnson ...he takes nutty, nerdy, goofball to a new level.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
19. Eliminate schools. social security etc.?, oh yeah, he has our attention (over 60 crowd)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:29 AM
Aug 2016

By the time this election is done, some mental place is going to have to reserve an entire floor for Trump and these people.

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
21. I'm not even talking about any wacky policies
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:33 AM
Aug 2016

It's just his manner of speaking, his really bad jokes, wearing stupid tennis shoes with his suit.
He screams,,,,NON-Presidential.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
23. Nonsense.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:45 AM
Aug 2016

Take a look at countries with multiple parties...realistically often a conservative minority runs the place...the UK is a perfect example of what can go wrong. And screw the Greens and any other party that helps the GOP and that monster Trump. We are set up to be a two party system basically ...not parliamentary. If we don't have a majority of votes...it goes to the house which is why third parties will not prosper. If there was a large upheaval such as happened in the 1850's and 1860's, a different party could replace one of our parties...but I do not believe multiple parties are possible under our system of government. And honestly I don't know why anyone would want that.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
26. Actually, a majority of primary voters voted against "change."
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:14 AM
Aug 2016

But don't let a little thing like The Facts get in the way of your hypothesis.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
29. How are you figuring the numbers on that?
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

There was no "Change" versus "Not-change" on the ballot, so some interpretation is necessary.

I'd count votes for Sanders, Trump, and Cruz as "Change" votes, albeit change in at least three different directions (maybe more if we try to take account of all of Trump's gavottes). The more conventional, mainstream politicians were Clinton, Kasich, Rubio, Bush, and most of each party's also-rans. By that metric, "Change" held a big lead over "Not-change" in the combined primary vote.

This is consistent with overall polling. I think there's a substantial majority saying that the country is on the wrong track -- an answer that scores better among Republicans than Democrats but that receives majority support within each party as well as from independents.

This is important because it may represent Trump's only path to victory. If he can capitalize on widespread discontent and appeal to a "throw the rascals out" mood, he might get people to overlook his own manifest shortcomings. He has no record in public office and makes one wild statement after another, but that's because he's not a conventional politician, and many voters are fed up with conventional politicians.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
31. Ted Cruz is a sitting Senator and a known entity. Your inclusion of him in "Change"
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:39 PM
Aug 2016

represents a transparent effort to manipulate data that tells you something you don't like so that it says something different instead. Ted Cruz didn't run as a "Change" candidate, and doesn't get included with them. Trump and Sanders were the change candidates, and neither won a majority of their primary's votes.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
36. I say it's a matter of interpretation.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:27 PM
Aug 2016

Yes, Ted Cruz is a sitting Senator, but so is Bernie (and Bernie has been in Congress much longer). Cruz was running against the GOP Establishment, whose members almost universally despised him. Furthermore, he was calling for major changes in public policy. My guess is that he got many votes from people who would have voted for "Change" over "Not-change" if that were the choice on the ballot.

Of course, we can't say for sure. I said it's a matter of interpretation, implying that more than one interpretation is defensible. You presumably disagree at that level, because you say that someone who disagrees with you must be engaged in "a transparent effort to manipulate data". I'll let our difference rest there.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
15. I will be honest... I could care less how much or little money people have
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:25 AM
Aug 2016

As long as they did not rob someone or something like that.. as long as they are good people promoting positions that are for the betterment of everyone..

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
30. The Green Party is going nowhere if they allow people like Stein to continue to "represent" them.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:04 PM
Aug 2016

She's doing them no favors.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
32. I hope she and her VP (haha) utterly humiliate and expose themselves as
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:14 PM
Aug 2016

the know-nothing crackpot whack-a-doodles that they are on their little Wed. "town hall."

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
35. Stein and the Greenies are trying to get trump elected
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 06:16 PM
Aug 2016

They have a crazy theory that things will be so bad under trump that we will welcome the revolution. That theory failed under W and there is no need for the country to suffer under Trump just to make the greenies happy

George Eliot

(701 posts)
37. At one time I would have disagreed but not now...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:57 PM
Aug 2016

If she were honestly working for the benefit of the Greens (which I applaud), she would not be denigrating Hillary but emphasizing those things she and the Greens bring to the table. It is pretty sad. The Greens continue to be a party without leadership.

 

Orcrist

(73 posts)
38. I saw the Trump/Putin Ass Puppet
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:36 PM
Aug 2016

this morning on CNN as well. It was just a straight up assault on Hillary from the word go. I never heard her speak a negative word about Trump. Or really say that much about herself either. And her statements were as bad or worse than anything you would hear a right wing blogger say. It is glaringly obvious that she is purely an anti Hillary agent in this years election cycle. I have less respect for her than I do Trump. At least he is openly a member of the opposition. Stein is slimy little would be back stabber. She is as transparently up to no good as those Nigerian Princes that need your bank routing number so they can wire you millions of dollars. I wouldn't piss in her face if her eye brows were on fire.

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