2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAccording to the NY Times election predictor, it all comes down to PA or FLA
If Hillary wins either state, it's o-v-e-r. Done like dinner. Game. Set. Match to Hillary. "Down goes Frazier. Down goes Frazier." Over. Roger and Out. Fat lady sings.
Scroll down to the section, "Donald Trumps Difficult Path to the White House".)
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html?_r=1
MFM008
(19,818 posts)early.
VMA131Marine
(4,149 posts)Thinks Trump will win PA
DinahMoeHum
(21,809 posts)Hopefully, BOTH states go to Clinton.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)especially with Rick Scott at the helm.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)But that is not true anymore. With Virginia going for the Democrats and some other Dem trending states, we can win in other ways. I think we will get Florida because of the immigration issue, but if we didn't, we still win. Please note that Obama could have lost both Ohio and Florida and won the 2012 election. He would have had 285 votes. I think it is unlikely Hillary loses either. Obama had 332 electoral votes...subtract Florida and Ohio and Obama still wins. (332-(29-18)=285. And that is a worst case scenario. Hillary may have some surprise wins too.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)from the models I've seen, Hillary could win handily with neither.
Grown2Hate
(2,013 posts)cannot win, so it could be an early night.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)The GOP has to run the table every election.
RandySF
(59,221 posts)If you take all of Hillary's votes in Philadelphia proper and give them to Ttump, Hillary still wins.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)csziggy
(34,137 posts)Today, Tim Kaine had a short appearance at Florida A&M University. He encouraged people to register to vote and to get out and vote. The organizer I work with registered twenty people to vote himself and there were other volunteers at the event.
Tomorrow through the primary on Tuesday we're working out of my house to send out teams to work on voter registration and GOTV. Our biggest worry right now is the weather - even if 99L doesn't make it into tropical storm strength it will probably bring a lot of rain into North Florida and will reduce places we can do voter registration and cut turnout for the primary.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)The last 2 election cycles, the vote counting was so slowed that the election had already been called before all the vote was in.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)9:17 CST. That my prediction. I plan on going to bed early so I can awake to a beautiful new era.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)"History is being made tonight..."
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Democrats control the state, save for the legislature. Governor, AG, Secretary of State and the Supreme Court. And the voter ID law from 2012 was killed.