Weak Trump Steamrolled By Mexican President In Bizarre Press Conference

[babylonsister]

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Weak Trump Steamrolled By Mexican President In Bizarre Press Conference

By Jason Easley on Wed, Aug 31st, 2016 at 4:40 pm


Donald Trump fell flat on his face in what can only be described as a bizarre press conference that highlighted his weakness and failure as a presidential candidate.
Weak Trump Steamrolled By Mexican President In Bizarre Press Conference

Donald Trump fell flat on his face in what can only be described as a bizarre press conference that highlighted his weakness and failure as a presidential candidate.

As Mexican President Pena Nieto spoke glowingly about the virtues of NAFTA and free trade, Trump stood there silently relying on a translator. As Pena Nieto criticized Trump’s plan to build the wall in a very diplomatic fashion, Trump stood there. As Mexico’s president stressed cooperation between the US and Mexico, Trump stood there.

When Trump finally spoke, he called the meeting a substantive exchange of ideas, and said that he was straightforward in repeating his views on immigration and trade. Trump proclaimed that he loved the United States, and then said that both countries are united by love for their countries. Trump later added that he a tremendous feeling for Mexican-Americans because he employs so many of them.

Trump later repeated that he was proud to say how many Mexican-Americans he employs. The Republican nominee discussed the common interest in keeping the border safe and free.

Trump went on to list five shared goals that would benefit both countries, ending illegal immigration, which he said must be solved quickly because it isn’t fair. Trump said that he recognized both Mexico and the US’s right to build a physical border. Trump’s third point was the dismantling of drug cartels. His fourth point was that NAFTA must be improved. Trump’s last point was that manufacturing wealth must be kept in our hemisphere, which directly contradicted the fact that he is campaigning on bringing manufacturing jobs back from Mexico to the United States.

The press conference was a voyage into the bizarre with Trump reading off of prepared remarks, but ad-libbing. Trump’s remarks were very weak. He claimed that he was with the Mexican president for a long time, but admitted that they met for an hour.

Trump said they didn’t discuss who would pay for the wall during the meeting, but that, like everything else involving the Trump campaign would be discussed at a later date.

Donald Trump tried to step onto the world stage, and in the process, he blew the image that he is campaigning on to pieces. The press conference was a classic Trump crash and burn. Trump looked like a wimp, as the press conference was another low moment for his sinking campaign.

[BSdetect]

1. Thanks for the more accurate description

If you watched MSNBC you would think Trump had won a great victory by appearing 1/10th like a normal presidential candidate.

[chillfactor]

7. I am watching MSNBC....

and I DID NOT get that impression at all.

[babylonsister]

14. I watched a bit of msnbc and I did get

that impression to an extent. He was almost being praised for keeping it low-key v. being his usual abomination.

[Pluvious]

70. Don the Con should be praised...

... for not throwing a fit. We need to encourage all efforts he makes to behave himself, and maybe someday he'll grow up into a good boy.

[lark]

71. I watched MSNBC all last night.

They were praising him to the skies for being so presidential and statesmanlike. Yes, they even said that, crazy as it is!! I didn't hear one mention of the Mexican President saying he told Drumpf that they would not pay for the wall, while Drumpf said it wasn't discussed. I didn't hear any mention of the lethargic Drumpf in Mexico and loving Mexicans then coming back to US and Mexicans are once again rapists and criminals. MSM is so in the tank to creating a horse race, it's truly disgusting. all the important news gets minimized and Clintons' ginned up horrors get promoted non-stop. There wasn't one word about Drumpf being models into the country illegally and intentionally illegal. Disgusting beyond belief!

[PJMcK]

53. Good try (n/t)

[ginnyinWI]

64. the bar is very low for him.

If he sounds sane for two minutes, it is a triumph!

[senseandsensibility]

2. I will read this instead of the %$$### that

I am sure is coming from MSNBC. Nicole Wallace was smiling from ear to ear ecstatically until Brian Williams essentially told her that what trump did was no bigee. Good for him though. I don't expect to hear anything even mildly critical for the rest of the afternoon.

[Adrahil]

16. I was surprised that Chuck Toad...

Was so negative. He called it a stunt. He said Trump is the mos reviled American in Mexico and for good reason. He was alsmost laughing when asked Jan Brewer how Trump could not talk about paying for the wall, when it was like the third thing he ever said in his campaign.

I tell ya... Trump's trip is going to come off as the biggest cave since the last Batman movie.

[senseandsensibility]

19. Yes, that was unexpected.

[nolabear]

3. I can't wait to hear how he spins it tonight. Because he was just plain weird up there.

He looked like a big dumb galoot. He did nothing to help anything.

[HurricaneWarning]

18. lol

Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long time.

[GP6971]

52. Me neither

Maybe so 1940s movies?

[bulloney]

61. Yosemite Sam used it when he was mad at Bugs Bunny.

OOOOOHHHHH! You long-eared idgit galoot!

[Gothmog]

4. Trump is a weak man

[chillfactor]

5. agreed....

t-rump fell flat on his face and was schooled by the Mexican president.....and t-rump looked terrible...swollen puffy, tired....it is a wonder he literally not really fall on his face.

[RKP5637]

10. Exactly! The Mexican president sounded elegant, while Trump sounded like a total buffoon! n/t

[gregcrawford]

22. Nieto knew that he could smoke The Donald...

... without breaking a sweat; that's why he invited him. Trump's self-absorbed arrogance blinded him to the fact that he was outclassed in every conceivable way. Trump, in typical fashion, will lie through his teeth, and the room-temperature IQs that support him will lap it up like it's the last drink of KoolAid they'll ever have. Would that it were so.

[RKP5637]

24. Trump, is a total embarrassment to the US. It speaks poorly of the US that so

many citizens can entertain such an ass as Trump for president.

[Coyotl]

69. He also is basing his immigration policy on racist lies.

This is old news, so he has no excuse:

Net Migration from Mexico Falls to Zero—and Perhaps Less

[Beaverhausen]

6. Politicususa is very left-wing friendly. Are they correct here?

I didn't get to watch.

thanks!

[RKP5637]

8. He looked like an elementary school child trying to read their speech as they stumbled over it. n/t

[StepnKretchit]

38. Exactly!

Poor thing. Please pardon my French, but Trump is a big fat fraud! And that's the truth. His fantastic team really needs to stop giving him speeches to read because his reading skills are well below his grade/age level.

[maddiemom]

56. Someone on one of the websites (sorry, I can't credit)...

suggested that Trump might be dyslexic. As a reading specialist, I think that is entirely possible. Dyslexia wasn't a consideration when Trump went through school, despite his expensive education.

[vlyons]

9. A big fat nothing-burger

All show no substance. Appearance and emptiness.

[ginnyinWI]

65. all hat and no cattle.

Let's bring that one back--it is needed!

[RKP5637]

11. Putin must be laughing his ass off, if this guy can get elected in the US, I can walk all over him!

[lark]

72. That's what I'm worried about.

Putin knows Drumpf would be a God-send for Russia, let them do anything they wanted anywhere in the world as long as Putin said nice things to the Donald and praised him. That's why I'm worried that the ruskies will hack the vote and steal the election for their guy, they have lots and lots of incentives to do that.

[RKP5637]

74. And the US voting machines are so easy to hack, and many municipalities have no idea

what goes on with the internals of their voting machines. It's potentially a horrific situation unfolding.

[mcar]

12. K&R

[nolabear]

13. They looked like an adaptation of "Of Mice and Men."

DAMN Trump is big. He looked like he wanted to pet the rabbits.

[sarcasmo]

15. Kick for Steamrolled.

[world wide wally]

17. Now I can turn on the tv to watch Trumps surrogates spin this for the next 48 hours...

With a few updates on Hillary's emails, of course.

[ffr]

20. Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy

Drumpf. Why is that not a surprise?

What a duffus!

[BobbyDrake]

21. Low energy? eom

[bucolic_frolic]

23. An hour is a long time

for adult narcissists with attention-deficit disorder

[KewlKat]

25. How stupid of him to say this.............

Trump later added that he a tremendous feeling for Mexican-Americans because he employs so many of them.

[Moonwalk]

58. Yeah, that kinda sorta stood out, didn't it? All Mexican Americans are to him are....

...maids, janitors, bellhops, valets, gardeners, caddies, cooks and busboys at his casinos and hotels. Not people. Not voters. Employees. Hell. They're not even employees who work directly with him and who he might play golf with or have dinner with, like a lawyer or accountant or the guy ghost-writing his book! I'd be astonished if he ever speaks directly to any of these many employees other than to say "take my bags to the airport" or "tell the kitchen to bring me up a taco bowl!"

And if they're not Mexican-Americans, if they're just Mexicans, they're criminals—either illegals, drug dealers or murderers.

I will be amazed if, after this, his poll numbers among voters of Latin heritage doesn't drop down to the same as with African American voters: 0

[Trust Buster]

26. The Mexican president steamrolled Trump ? Trump strolled into the guy's palace, told him that

he's still building the wall and strolled out. You might not like what you're hearing on MSNBC but they are accurately depicting what happened. Watch the polls in the next two weeks.

[Nitram]

40. Walked in and walked out? Looked to me like he just stood there in front of the cameras...

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while Nieto praised NAFTA and criticized the idea of a wall.

[okieinpain]

27. what i'm afraid of is trump has been so bad that

if he doesn't shit his pants on live tv he looks presidential.

[SeattleVet]

28. tRump looked like he had just been taken to the woodshed

and badly whipped.

(Either that, or his campaign has him on massive amounts of Xanax or other drugs to keep him from spouting off spontaneously with his head up his ass.)

[SummerSnow]

29. Trump:“We did discuss the wall , we didn’t discuss payment of the wall. That will be later"

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. The FReaks are lapping it up

Who is that Mexican who is hogging the mike?

56 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:19:23 PM by Leep (Cut the crap!)

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“Reciprocal Trade”....do ya think Mexico knows what that is??

Trump Goals with Mexico...

1. End Illegal immigration

2. Have a Secure Border...sovereign right

3. Dismantle Drug cartels & movement of drugs into USA

4. Improving Nafta...must be updated and improved

5. Keep manufacturing wealth in our hemisphere

GO TRUMP! He’s turned into quite the statesman!

64 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:27:38 PM by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)

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That handshake caused weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst the media, GOP establishment and Dems and Clintons.



67 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:28:39 PM by TomGuy

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He looks and sounds so presidential there, handling questions.

Strong, calm leadership on display.

68 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:30:05 PM by Deo volente (The islamists want to eradicate us, and will never stop. We need to eradicate them first.)

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This event brings into focus that Obama and Hillary are irrelevant.

69 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:30:35 PM by mancini

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He looks and sounds so presidential there, handling questions.

This meeting was worth more than 50 million in TV ads. The American people want to know if Trump is Presidential material - he more than passed the test ...

78 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:32:58 PM by 11th_VA (It's all gonna change once Trump's president)

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Absolutely he hit a home run with this. I’m so excited. If he becomes buddy/buddy with the Mexican President, the Mexican President will encourage hispanics to vote for Trump.

1) It makes Trump look very Presidential.
2) It makes Hillary look like a slacker - Mex Pres said he made offer to both and Trump jumped right on it.
3) I look forward to a good relationship with Mexico - a win/win situation, less drugs coming over the border, they get guns from us they don’t want - good for both.
4) We can all be prosperous in the future, both countries can.

Good job Trump!!!!

86 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:35:50 PM by ozarkgirl

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I just watched on TV, this was excellent.

Trump didn’t look like a politician, he looked like a statesman. Some bozo on Fox now dissing Trump, calling it a “massive capitulation”. Trump said long ago he has to be flexible, he just proved it. Trump said NAFTA has to be updated, true. Either rip it up or update it, one way or the other it has to be fixed. He is making moves already to do that, and he’s not even elected yet.

Great list of points he wants to work on, he also got together with a foreign leader who he is known to heave serious disagreements with and had what both called a productive meeting, discussed the wall and didn’t discuss who pays for it. That was a good move. I didn’t see any animosity, both seemed fairly cooperative, it looks like Trump just made a good start on a positive relationship with Mexico. He even got the Mexican president to agree a wall might be a worthwhile idea. He at east acknowledged that both physical and technological deterrents are needed.

He also Trumped Hillary, put together a meeting immediately, got the jump on her, stole her thunder, no matter what she does now, she gets the same optics as Obama, leading from behind.

As far as I can tell, this was a big positive for Trump.

Dear Washington,

America is coming,

and they’re bringing Donald J Trump.

97 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:41:14 PM by Paleo Pete (Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.)

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Trump didn't need to talk about Mexico paying for the wall, because THAT can be achieved 100% WITHOUT Mexico's involvement. When Trump enacts a rule whereby remittance payments to Mexico are TAXED TO PAY FOR THE WALL, there's not a damn thing Mexico can do about it. That's our jurisdiction, not theirs.

I guarantee Trump will mention HOW Mexico will pay for the wall in tonight's Arizona speech: Remittance payment tax!
103 posted on 2016-08-31, 5:45:57 PM by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)

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{ugly personal remarks about Hillary and Democrats definitely not included}

[Historic NY]

31. LOL translater says the border issues have improved due to efforts of President Obama..

and Mexico. The undocumented people crossing have steadily declined to it lowest rates over ten years. Effort to improve the border must be made for all.

PENA NIETO (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): With regards to border issues, I have a very clear vision. The border must transform itself in (ph) an asset for our region. We have great advances in the last few years, working very closely with the Obama administration. And with the next administration, we must accelerate these efforts so that the Mexican/United States border is more efficient and safe.

However, an important number of U.S. citizens chases (ph) the border as a real problem because undocumented persons and illegal drugs cross the border onto the U.S. Undocumented immigration – immigration from the Mexico to the U.S. had it highest point ten years ago, and it has slowed down consistently, even to the point of being negative in a net effect at this point.

Even so, we know that it continues to be a shared challenge, including the increasing number of non-Mexicans that cross our country to go to the U.S. which create in fact a great humanitarian crisis. However, this is a clearly incomplete vision of the border wishes (ph) because it doesn’t account for the illegal flows that come in south bound, including weapons and cash.

Every year thousands of dollars – billions of dollars and weapons come in from the North, which strengthen the cartels and other criminal organizations that generate violence in Mexico, and obtain gains from the drug sales in the U.S. This flow must be stopped.

What we need is an integral (ph) focus regarding the border that serves the challenges of undocumented people and illegal drugs and weapon flows as cash all (ph) the same. Many lives may be saved in both sides of our borders if the criminal organizations stop receiving all the weapons and cash that today allow them to pursue their criminal endeavors.

Illegal weapons, drugs, and cash flows in both directions, have multiple negative consequences on both sides of the border. Our border must be seen as a joint opportunity. Both countries must invest more – more infrastructure, more people, and more technology to make it more – safer, and more efficient.

I do admit that the – recognize that the natural right that every country has to protect its own borders. I also believe that a real collaboration effort between friends and allied is the best route to obtain this. All the while, I express this to Mr. Trump to make a better border with Mexico, and all the friends from Central America.

http://time.com/4475102/donald-trump-enrique-pena-nieto-transcript/

[rivegauche]

32. I'm amazed that Nieto even accepted the meeting.

After all the disgusting garbage Cheeto Jesus has spewed about Mexicans, he had no reason to speak to him at all. I wuol dhave told him to GFY.

[Nitram]

51. Nieto is a mensch, an adult, and a statesman. He had nothing to fear from a Trump.

He knew he would look great in comparison to ol' Dumpass, increasing both his own domestic and international prestige, and exposing Donald as a phony wannabe.

[truebluegreen]

63. Nieto is a corrupt lying PoS

and his invitation to Trump will likely lower his already abysmal (20%) approval rating. Those two deserve each other.

[Nitram]

77. Wrong. Showing up Dump face-to-face will increase Nieto's popularity.

[truebluegreen]

78. Yeah, it would if that was what he did. It isn't.

The president of Mexico is being raked over the coals today for meeting with Trump at all, and then for not confronting him. Demanding a public apology would have helped his (non-existent) popularity or, even better, whacking him with a stick like his best-selling pinata look-alike.

Nieto a mensch? Even in the thoroughly corrupt and vicious political theater that is Mexico he stands out. Your dislike / hatred of Trump doesn't make Pena a statesman.

[Nitram]

79. ANYONE would look like a statesman next to Dump.

[truebluegreen]

80. Almost true. But Pena looked weak, according to his constituents.

[TeamPooka]

33. Trump having to pay attention to another person for a whole hour must have been torture to him. nt

[Jim Dandy]

34. Complete utter jackass

What a disgrace.

[ailsagirl]

46. Disgrace, definitely

Also despicable

[Kablooie]

35. Trump hit a home run with his meeting with Mexico’s president - CNBC

That's their article title.

So like politics in general today, the assessment of anything that Trump or Hillary does is painted in pure black and white.
Grey has been banished.
I don't think I can believe anything anymore.

That big hole in my backyard is looking like a great place for me to put my head.

[major debacle]

36. According to Breitbart, a good time was had by all:

Peña Nieto: Trump Has Sincere Interest in Benefiting Both US, MX

[calimary]

37. That "would be discussed at a later date" stuff reminds me of Ahnold.

Anybody remember when he was running for governor here in CA? He had all those groping/molestation/horndog scandals erupting around him. Doonesbury was caricaturing him as a disembodied groping hand. And he promised he'd discuss everything after the election.

So he gets elected. And what does he do about that promise after the election? He ignored it completely. Said it's time to move on. Not going to rehash old stuff or "look backward" and all those other trite little excuses.

The really infuriating part was - the media went along with it. Oh okay, Mr. Governor-elect. We won't bother you about this anymore. You're right... let's just move on... Nothing to see here...

So we never DID find out what he would have discussed and illuminated that whole sexual misconduct "Groper-gate" mess. It just ... went... awaaaaaay ...

Could you even imagine what the press would do if that were Hillary?

[SammyWinstonJack]

62. Remember what they did to John Edwards? Ruined him, politically.

[calimary]

68. Yeah. Similarly - what they did to Gary Condit, while Joe Scarborough thrives.

Gary Condit was practically flayed alive, and his career as a Congressman ended, under "suspicions" that he was involved in the disappearance of a Capitol Hill intern who was later found dead, while NOTHING happened to ol' Morning Joe when he was briefly in Congress, but an intern was found DEAD in his office. Of course, Gary Condit was a Democrat. Joe is a CON.

Look what they did to Bill Clinton, who stupidly dallied with another intern. But Newt Gingrich, Henry Hyde, Bob Livingston, and Dan Burton, ALL of whom did worse things than President Clinton did - all of them cheated on their wives, but also left behind untold messes and personal wreckage, strings of broken marriages, and out-of-wedlock babies born by their mistresses. Bill Clinton's fuck-up did NONE of those. The worst that only TWO of them lost was a job (Gingrich eventually had to resign as House Speaker) or a promotion (Livingston had to give up hopes of replacing him).

#doublestandard - good to add to whatever tweets you might post about political topics.

[Beartracks]

39. News/Talk Radio in Oklahoma...

...

"Trump is meeting with the Mexican President today!"

"Trump is going to give a much anticipated speech on immigration!"

"Trump is preparing for the debate by doing nothing! He wants to be natural!"

"Some lady named Hillary lied about some emails."



Seems legit.


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[MyNameGoesHere]

41. We just had our sweating Nixon debate moment.

[Kind of Blue]

42. Thank you! Finally, some real talk.

I got the strongest feeling that Pres. Nieto couldn't wait to tell Trump off face-to-face. His stance, his demeanor looked to me like a person who just came out of meeting with someone who he detests.

[ailsagirl]

43. How can he love our country?

When everything he says/does is patently un-American??

[babylonsister]

44. It's all pablum designed to

(try to) impress his supporters. And they won't care either way.

[ailsagirl]

45. Man, those followers are scary people

[babylonsister]

48. I have about

3 friends, who express themselves, who despise Hillary. And two brothers. All faux-influenced, and for years. Maybe trump will be their wake-up call, but I'm not sure.

[ailsagirl]

49. I'm lucky

I don't know anyone who isn't a Dem

I hope the faux-influenced ones see the light!!

[lark]

73. He cares about nothing but himself.

Country and workers sure didn't matter when it came time for his products to be produced, those were all sent to different countries.
His lie about increasing American jobs is so laughable and stupid. He himself has outsourced jobs and isn't pulling them back to this country either. Why are people so stupid?

[ailsagirl]

47. Sounds like yet another debacle

How could it be anything else??

[bucolic_frolic]

50. I think he's losing what few marbles he had

As the proverbial economist, it's like he's pushing on a string
and nothing happens. He keeps holding these authoritarian press
conferences, says 10 "believe me" and "greatest" sentences, hears
everything is fine on Fox News, and nothing happens. His thoughts
are often not logically connected, one doesn't follow another.
Dementia is settling in, the electricity is no longer at full current.
It's only a matter of time.

[Coyotl]

54. I've seen pinatas put on a better performance.

[Blue Idaho]

55. An hour IS a long time for Trump's brain.

Since his attention span is about three minutes 60 minutes leaves time for about twenty different conversations. How strange that one of those conversations was not about Mexico paying for the wall.

Amateur hour has invaded international politics...

[Scurrilous]

57. K & R

[Moonwalk]

59. Very smart man, President Enrique. His approval rating is going to go through the roof....

...thanks to this. Which I'm sure is why he opened the door and said "Sure, come on over and let's talk, Señor Trump." He didn't even have to break a sweat. This was the easiest approval ratings boost he ever got, and it practically fell into his lap.

And as if that wasn't enough, if Americans could poll in such, they'd probably raise Enrique's ratings even higher. All Trump managed to do was make Enrique look awesome. If the republicans weren't banging their heads before asking "Why is Trump our candidate?" they are now.

[truebluegreen]

66. Are you kidding?

Nieto's approval rating was already 20% and inviting that asshole over for a chat will probably push it down even more. He would have been better served to whack Trump like a piñata.

[BlueMTexpat]

60. Not only that ...

but EPN has called Trump out on this bit:

Trump said they didn’t discuss who would pay for the wall during the meeting, but that, like everything else involving the Trump campaign would be discussed at a later date.

Mexican president disputes Trump over border wall payment discussion http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/30/politics/donald-trump-enrique-pea-nieto-mexico/

Donald Trump flew into a nation he has constantly berated during his campaign to meet President Enrique Peña Nieto and said they discussed a wall Trump has vowed to build on the US southern border, but not his demand that Mexico pay for it -- an assertion the Mexican president later disputed.

"Who pays for the wall? We didn't discuss," Trump had said when asked by a reporter during a news conference following their meeting in Mexico City. "We did discuss the wall. We didn't discuss payment of the wall. That'll be for a later date."

But Peña Nieto later claimed the two had discussed the wall and who would pay for it -- and he had "made it clear" to Trump it wouldn't be Mexico.

"At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted, after their meeting Wednesday.

Grandstand FAIL!

[DawgHouse]

67. WTH is "tremendous feeling"

He's an idiot.

[oberliner]

75. He actually seemed like a normal human being

Unlike later in the day at his rally in Phoenix.

[Sanity Claws]

76. Was he on downers?

He seemed so suppressed from his usual self. He also looked awful. Did he gain 50 pounds? He looked very low energy, using one of his own terms.