Latest PPP polls of AZ, MO, NH, NC, OH, PA, WI

[book_worm]

Arizona: Trump 46%, Clinton 43% (PPP)

Missouri: Trump 47%, Clinton 41% (PPP)

New Hampshire: Clinton 46%, Trump 40% (PPP)

North Carolina: Clinton 45%, Trump 44% (PPP)

Ohio: Clinton 46%, Trump 42% (PPP)

Pennsylvania: Clinton 48%, Trump 43% (PPP)

Wisconsin: Clinton 48%, Trump 41% (PPP)


https://politicalwire.com/2016/09/01/state-poll-roundup-thursday-3/

[SCliberal91294]

1. Pretty good.

Wish PA was a little better but happy with OH, WI and maybe even AZ.

[book_worm]

2. Another poll today had +7 in PA

I think PA is (as usual) a wet dream for the GOP and Clinton will win by at least as much as Obama did (5%) or better.

[democrattotheend]

3. A little close for comfort in PA & OH

But otherwise pretty good. Happy to see Hillary winning in North Carolina.

[book_worm]

5. they are always close in the polls

[Cosmocat]

31. This actually is one of the better polls for her in Ohio

I was heartened to see it, that has been one of the "battle ground" states that has been a real "toss up."

PA is right where it should be. I live her and she NEVER was or is going to blow him out by 10 her, at the same time things have to be REALLY bad for it go red.

[democrattotheend]

33. Obama won it by 10 in 2008

Despite getting crushed there in the primary, losing big to Hillary among blue collar whites.

Given that she defeated Obama handily in PA in the 2008 primary, I don't see why Hillary can't do as well as he did there.

[Cosmocat]

36. It isn't 2008 and she isn't BHO

2008 was completely different dynamics than this year.

8 years of Bush, the Rs were much more passive and Ds were wanted blood.

8 years of BHO and the Rs want blood and Ds are not near as energized.

Typical dynamics from a POTUS coming off an 8 year term.

BHO was a more dynamic public figure, Hillary does not have his charm and has a quarter century of slander piled on her with the second lowest favorables of any POTUS candidate vs BHO who had such a limited resume he had a lot less "baggage" real or otherwise.

You can see the difference where I live.

There were about as many BHO signs as McCain signs in an area that is overall republican but with a pretty liberal section.

Right now, I can count on one hand the number of Hillary signs ...

She is NOT winning PA by 10 ... One edit, unless somehow Trump finds a way to do something(s) even more horrific than he already has.

[oasis]

4. Trump's numbers will dip without recovery after his Mexico fiasco.

[Tiggeroshii]

16. I imagine he won't do much better with Latinos as he does with African Americans overall.

And that could lose him Texas.

[oasis]

35. I doubt Hill will capture Texas. Dem house seats a possibility.

[triron]

6. Hampton University

poll has Clinton up only 2 in Virginia. No cross tabs are provided. Hard to believe.

[MohRokTah]

7. It's a new pollster.

Beware, many rightwing "new pollsters" have popped up.

[triron]

9. 538

gives them a "B" rating and rates them only +1 R (so HRC is up only 3?). Wished they gave details on methodology etc.

[triron]

10. Also

wasn't she up 15 in another recent poll?

[SaschaHM]

8. If Romney couldn't take VA, Trump is going to get trounced there.

Romney, for all his faults, actually appealed to college educated white voters. Trump scares them away.

[Unit 001]

38. Not the part of Va. where I work

BIG Trump/Pence signs around but I have not seen one Clinton/Kaine sign.

The ignorance is mind boggling.

[riversedge]

11. Hillary has 7 pts over Trumpy in WI. Good news

[workersuntie]

13. As a Madisonian Who Was Born Here

I'm thinking it oughtta be 17 ... or 70.

But 7 will do for now.

[workersuntie]

12. Isn't PPP DailyKos-Affiliated?

Seems to me they've done lots of good (if not always perfect) work in the past.

[MoonRiver]

14. NO. And this is a right wing talking point.

Before you post slander you should check your facts and provide links.

[workersuntie]

17. Thank You for the Excellent Advice

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/05/ppp-to-poll-for-daily-kos_n_672414.html

A study by Fordham University found that, of 28 firms studied, PPP had the most accurate poll on the presidential national popular vote, both its independently conducted poll and the one it does in collaboration with Daily Kos and the SEIU.[17] PPP correctly called the winner of the presidential election in all 19 states it polled in the final week of the election, as well as the winners of all the U.S. Senate and gubernatorial races it surveyed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Policy_Polling

[MoonRiver]

18. Hmmm, from your second source:

PPP is described as one of the "most accurate" polling companies[3][4] with a tendency to slightly lean Republican.[5]

Your first source was dated 08/05/2010, with an update 05/25/2011 (any more recent info?), and I only got the impression that Daily KOS utilizes PPP for its polling data, as it has a proven track record.

[Democat]

21. Check the other posts

Someone is not happy with polls showing Clinton ahead.

[MoonRiver]

22. Yes I have that impression.

[Democat]

20. Your posts in this thread are bashing pro-Clinton polls?

Good luck.

[workersuntie]

23. Did I Miss Something?

I've long respected both PPP and HRC, and I don't believe I said anything to disparage either.

What am I missing here?

[MoonRiver]

24. Well, for one thing, why are you disparaging a poll supporting Clinton, which,

according to your own source, SLIGHTLY LEANS REPUBLICAN?

[workersuntie]

25. I was NOT disparaging the poll. I explicitly PRAISED it.

"Seems to me they've done lots of good (if not always perfect) work in the past," I said. That's disparaging?

I have almost exclusively good associations with PPP in part because rightly or wrongly (and the sources I cited strongly suggest rightly) I've always associated them with Daily Kos.

And if PPP results tend to overstate Republican strength a little, so much the better. I'd rather have the polls from "our side" making things look a little better for the Republicans so that we never let our guards down. Wouldn't you?

Jeezuz H. Christ, what's going on here?

[MoonRiver]

27. You questioned its credibility by stating it was affiliated with DailyKos, a left web site.

I call that disparaging PPP's results as biased. But, once again, according to your own source, PPP, LEANS SLIGHTLY REPUBLICAN.

[workersuntie]

28. YOU'RE affiliated with 'a left web site.' SO AM I. Does that alone impugn OUR credibility?

I should hope not!

If anything, I'd like to be far more confident of the veracity of work associated with "my" side. Wouldn't you?

And which is it: Am I suggesting that PPP is biased toward the left ... or is my crime that of saying favorable things about a polling firm leaning toward the other side? Can't be both, now, can it?

[MoonRiver]

29. If I were claiming that DU is affiliated with a polling site that favors Clinton,

and is therefore biased in favor of her, despite obvious evidence otherwise, yes, you could confront me on that.

[workersuntie]

30. If DU were affiliated with a pollster ...

... wouldn't you want to believe that the pollster was doing a good job for us? Surely you wouldn't just automatically assume that our pollster was basically lying to us to tell us things we'd like to read, would you? I would not be inclined to make such assumptions.

I'd prefer to think that "our" pollsters are NOT biased toward the candidates we support, but rather that they are giving us accurate intelligence: the good the bad and the ugly. Reasonably or not, that's what I'd expect. Like a damn fool, perhaps, I'd expect people on "my" side to care about the truth.

[MoonRiver]

32. Whatever.

[writes3000]

15. Thanks for posting, bookworm!

[KingCharlemagne]

19. How sad is it that Miasouri is Trump +6? This from

the state that gave us Harry S. Truman and Stu Symington.

[Loki]

34. We in Missouri need to get our act together.

Kansas City and St Louis could offset the red neck center just GOTV Missouri. Let make us proud again

[RandySF]

26. Any senate/gov numbers?

[Scurrilous]

37. K & R