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RandySF

(58,884 posts)
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 02:54 PM Sep 2016

Is Rudy Giuliani Losing His Mind?

Anyone just tuning in must be wondering: What happened to “America’s mayor”? For millions of people outside New York, the lasting image of Giuliani is that of the man we all rooted for as he pushed his way through the streets of Lower Manhattan on September 11, 2001, and told us afterward, with almost heartbreaking gentleness, that “the casualties will be more than any of us can bear.” Giuliani that day went on television not only to urge calm, but to remind New Yorkers not to take out their grief on Muslims—“We should act bravely. We should act in a tolerant way”—and just days later held an interfaith prayer service in Yankee Stadium that brought Islamic clerics together with Christians and Jews. This season in political hell, Giuliani has seemed so addled, so much the campaign tool, alternately vicious and clownish in defense of The Donald, that at one point he even stuffed his most famed accomplishment down the memory hole, insisting of the Bush presidency, “Under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn’t have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States.”

It might seem like this summer has marked a sad break with that old Rudy, or proved him a sellout. But if you’ve followed Giuliani’s career, in fact it’s clear he swallowed the whole Trump persona many years ago—the race-baiting, the law-and-order pose, the incessant lying used to both steal credit and avoid responsibility. What we’re seeing this summer isn’t a crackup: It’s the inevitable, supernova explosion of what long ago became one of the most toxic and overrated political careers in our history. It’s tempting to count the 72-year-old Giuliani one more addition to the Island of Misfit Toys that Trump has gathered around him—another one of the political relics who, seeking to restore relevance, have found themselves denatured by the strange public power of Trump. But a better way to see it might be as a man seizing the star turn he never quite got—grabbing time in slow stretches of the campaign to stand on the national stage and play the role that was supposed to be his, exactly the way he thinks it should be played.

What lies at the heart of Trumpism, and Rudyism, is the same, nostalgic impulse that has driven reactionary Republican populism for a half-century now—“The shining city on the hill!” as Giuliani managed to splutter at the convention, just before, “Greatness!” It’s no coincidence that Trump and Giuliani both came of age in the New York of the 1960s and ’70s, the time when the dream seemed to die, during the nihilistic, wholesale destruction of our cities.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-2016-214207#ixzz4JJa4PGVj

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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
2. He seems to have a particular anger and hatred at the Clintons
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 03:04 PM
Sep 2016

Just throwing out some reasons here (none of them justifiable):

1. He's mad at Bill Clinton for using the line-item-veto to cancel special tax cuts for NYC; that resulted in the USSC ruling Clinton v. NYC (1998).

2. He blames Bill Clinton for 9/11, a common tripe we heard on the right throughout the 2000's.

3. He's bitter over not being able to run against Hillary for the Senate in 2000 because of his prostate cancer, feels he alone could have stopped her, and it is his duty to do so now.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. As To The Prostate Cancer REason For Not Running
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 03:19 PM
Sep 2016

As I remember it here in the city, the view it was a lucky break for him and a good excuse not to run against someone he couldn't beat.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
3. Never forget that Ghouliani is, above all, a politician
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 03:10 PM
Sep 2016

When he was mayor he had to cater to the most diverse electorate in America. He also had to deal with a major crisis. Besides, he had no reason to believe that any Muslim New Yorkers were responsible for planes crashing into the WTC Towers.

Sounding reasonable at the time was a no brainer.

Today, the only person that he needs to cater to is Trump. Basically, he's allowing Trump to exploit his own good name for a chance to advance into some hypothetical Trump administration. That's never going to happen, of course.

Anyway, I would suppose that Ghouliani has always been deferential to Trump and his foolishness. Ghouliani has always been his shoeshine boy, it's just today that it's the only job he can get.

randr

(12,412 posts)
4. The only thing Ghouliani needs to be remembered for
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 03:14 PM
Sep 2016

is placing the NYPD Command Center in the World Trade Towers against the wishes of the first responders themselves.
He made them the target and is responsible for the lost lives.

 

OB44

(27 posts)
5. He's come to the realization that he will never be President. Trying to ride Trump hair piece.
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 03:19 PM
Sep 2016

To the White House.

 

Lsantos04

(48 posts)
8. He's been an idiot for years now
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 09:56 PM
Sep 2016

All he has done during the last decade or so is exploit the 9/11 tragedy whenever possible. A shameless opportunist with no conscience.

I hope he fades into obscurity after Trump loses.

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