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WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:20 AM Sep 2016

Are We Living in The Twilight Zone

After last night's CNC Forum, I'm convinced more than ever that Donald Trump is a clear and present danger to our country. It isn't simply just a matter of not having the knowledge necessary to make important decisions. It is truly a matter of temperment.

How is it remotely possible that anyone with any sense of reason be drawn to Donald Trump as a qualified candidate for the presidency?

What accounts for such a disconnect?

After the election, these people are not going away. We are going to have to deal with the likes of Trump supporters for years to come.

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Are We Living in The Twilight Zone (Original Post) WiffenPoof Sep 2016 OP
It Is Pure racism, Misogyny & Bigotry. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2016 #1
Yes you're correct, also explains Trump's fascination with Putin and Russia. Avalux Sep 2016 #20
Absolutely one-hundred-fucking-percent right lillypaddle Sep 2016 #21
I'm there with you. Adrahil Sep 2016 #2
Over the past couple decades, the business school cartel BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #3
Excellent Points. NT WiffenPoof Sep 2016 #4
It's funny that you should mention that. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #7
I love your gifs, especially..... Hillary in tank chasing donnie on a tricycle..LOL! Bill USA Sep 2016 #10
I took that one BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #11
In his first presidential campaign, George W Bush touted his Harvard MBA and excused Tanuki Sep 2016 #12
Business majors. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #16
I remember when I was in high school in the '70s BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #17
I felt the same way. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #19
Yeah you can't win BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #23
Scariest of all is Repub Congress, Senate and Supreme Court and Fed Cts all going along with him wishstar Sep 2016 #5
^ ^ ^THIS! ^ ^ ^ lastlib Sep 2016 #15
I believe you may be on to something about this being the Twilight Zone. ooky Sep 2016 #6
Well said. narnian60 Sep 2016 #9
a 30 yr McCarthyist disinformation campaign of character assassination & hysterical charges of Bill USA Sep 2016 #8
Yes! LongTomH Sep 2016 #13
!!!! BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #18
I need a shot of whiskey after that one nolabels Sep 2016 #22
I'll join you BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #24
Racism. Kkk folks don't care about anything but getting him in office. AgadorSparticus Sep 2016 #14

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
20. Yes you're correct, also explains Trump's fascination with Putin and Russia.
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 02:39 PM
Sep 2016

Russia is a deeply racist country and although they're not our friends, Trump supporters see a kinship with them.

There's a common denominator at work here.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
21. Absolutely one-hundred-fucking-percent right
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 02:49 PM
Sep 2016

An email from my sister sent to me and about 15 other people:

My friend Gabriele is going to Berlin next month to celebrate her uncle's 93 birthday. I think she has reason to be concerned. She speaks fluent German so I told her not to speak English. She responded that the Muslims attack Germans so that does not help.

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: a
To: b
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:54 PM
Subject: Berlin 2016: Rape, Drugs, Murder, Robberies: North African Gangs terrorize remaining Germans

It is horrible what is happening in Germany. This is the first time that I am somewhat dreading my trip to Berlin in October.

Check out this video on YouTube:



She's a Faux News watcher and a Trump supporter. No difference, you see, between Muslims and terrorist cells. She's 74, and it's too late to try to change her - it's not worth the heartache. But bigotry and racism is what it boils down to.


BumRushDaShow

(129,081 posts)
3. Over the past couple decades, the business school cartel
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:46 AM
Sep 2016

has implanted and perpetuated the bullshit myth that "a good business manager can run a company without the need for any knowledge about the product". And this is where Drumpf is coming from with respect to running the USA (United Swindlers of America) and the media has been equally brainwashed with this myth.

When you see people like Drumpf or even Carl Icahn promoted in such fashion, then this allows the sentiment to continue.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
7. It's funny that you should mention that.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:46 PM
Sep 2016

One of my nephews who earned an MBA told me in the Spring that he would vote for Trump because "we need a businessman in the White house for a change."

I mentioned Trump's numerous bankruptcies as a businessman, but that didn't affect him. He simply repeated how this country needs to be run by businessmen instead of lawyers, especially since he thinks businessmen are so wonderful after getting his MBA. I decided to drop it because I didn't want to put a damper on a family get-together with politics.

That nephew was valedictorian in his high school class, but he didn't want to pursue a degree in science because it was "too hard." He was also very money-obsessed.

BumRushDaShow

(129,081 posts)
11. I took that one
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:15 PM
Sep 2016

you posted and shrunk it to fit!

There was a similar one earlier this year with Obama chasing Cruz on the tricycle.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
12. In his first presidential campaign, George W Bush touted his Harvard MBA and excused
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:05 PM
Sep 2016

his manifest lack of knowledge by claiming he would run the country as a CEO, delegating to experts in various fields. We all know how that turned out.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
16. Business majors.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:33 PM
Sep 2016
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=37
Question:
What are the most popular majors for postsecondary students?
Response:
Of the 1,840,000 bachelor's degrees conferred in 2012–13, the greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of business (361,000), health professions and related programs (181,000), social sciences and history (178,000), psychology (114,000), education (105,000), and biological and biomedical sciences (100,000). At the master's degree level, the greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of business (189,000) and education (165,000).


When I was in college, I'd see courses like "Statistics for Business Majors," and the textbooks were extremely remedial and "dumbed down."

BumRushDaShow

(129,081 posts)
17. I remember when I was in high school in the '70s
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 07:00 AM
Sep 2016

How so many kids I knew were steered into what was then called "Business Administration" (I went the science route). I just couldn't understand what it was that they would actually be "doing". On the surface, it would have appeared to give the student a "basic" understanding of "business" that could be applied and parlayed into a number of positions. But I think the reality was that if any of them had a fantasy of "running a business", they would be in for a rude awakening as many of the largest companies merely pass down the ownership/CEO roles to family and/or close friends and others pretty much require you to change jobs every couple years to chase the higher salaries. At the lower levels, the "cottage" industry businesses are obviously out there but so much of the knowledge about running these businesses also come from family/friends who owned them previously, essentially negating the need for very expensive "MBAs".

That just wasn't me. Based on your link, I was in that last category listed - the one with the least degrees - "physical sciences". And then folks whine about all the H1B visas.



(my niece liked the above cartoon, i.e., Johnny Test - it is a cute wacky show...lol)

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
19. I felt the same way.
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 02:34 PM
Sep 2016

I graduated from high school in the 80's, and I didn't think a business degree would be very useful either. I was seemingly wrong based on some former co-students who went that route. I majored in math & physics, but it didn't pan out for me very well financially. I knew that I'd probably need at least a master's degree, and I was on my way in grad school before being derailed by a horrible marriage. I shouldn't have even considered marriage until I was through with school.

One of my nephews was an excellent student in high school and I encouraged him to pursue a science degree, but he said it would be "too hard" and he majored in business instead. Ugh.

BumRushDaShow

(129,081 posts)
23. Yeah you can't win
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 07:17 PM
Sep 2016

A number of the sciences seem to require advanced degrees and then when you try to apply for a job, they want to know what experience you had related to their specific industry (which really can only be obtained if they gave in-house training). I knew too many who ended up being perpetual students chasing what was being advertised as minimum requirements, but ending up being a poor substitute for company/industry-specific training. There is definitely a need for more apprenticeships and co-ops between colleges and industry when it comes to the sciences.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
5. Scariest of all is Repub Congress, Senate and Supreme Court and Fed Cts all going along with him
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:28 PM
Sep 2016

Do the media and his supporters who are elevating him while bashing Clinton not realize what a disaster a total Repub takeover would be for America- for foreign policy, civil rights, workers' rights, human rights, health care, the environment? Guess all they care about is tax cuts and deregulation that would allow unfettered profit making.

lastlib

(23,243 posts)
15. ^ ^ ^THIS! ^ ^ ^
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:17 PM
Sep 2016

NO--they only care about the CEO's bottom line. Profits. Screw the proletariat masses--they should be smarter and work harder for their masters.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
6. I believe you may be on to something about this being the Twilight Zone.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:43 PM
Sep 2016

To double down on your point, how can anyone who watched Trump dodge answering every question and making it worse with boneheaded comments, conclude that "he won"? Yet all over M$M today there are so called pundits making these ridiculous assertions. Unbelievable.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
8. a 30 yr McCarthyist disinformation campaign of character assassination & hysterical charges of
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:47 PM
Sep 2016

... nefarious activities, facilitated by a M$M which, either due to intimidation by Rabid Right Partisans or Conservative corporate ownership, has helped sell every screw-ball charge invented and thrown at the Clintons. Note that when the facts are brought out that debunk the crazy charges - these don't get the headlines the hysterical charges got. THe facts are reported in normal size type and never get a screaming headline.

Consider the almost weekly reports from M$M on Clinton's "trust" numbers and compare that to how many times pollsters have asked people: "Given that there has been 2, 3, 4,[font face="cursive" size="3"] n[/font] Benghazi Inquiries, do you think Republicans are being honest when they say they are engaging in a real search for the truth about the Benghazi attack?"

The tactic of the Big Lie is very effective. Tell a lie and keep repeating it and many people will start to think it must be true. The GOP implies the lie that Hillary is dishonest with the continuous hearings asking her questions as if she hasn't already adequately answered the questions which keep being repeated.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
14. Racism. Kkk folks don't care about anything but getting him in office.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:16 PM
Sep 2016

They don't care if they have to burn the country down to do so. Their ultimate goal is to get rid of all poc and turn America white again.

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