2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI am a big supporter of Hillary, but at this moment I just want to shake her and say
for the last time: "Stop talking about those damn emails."
This is not a conversation she is going to win. This is not a conversation you can have in a 2 or even 10 minute soundbite and change hearts. At this point I would hope that someone has taken her aside today, (shake her if you have to) and tell her to stop talking about those damn emails.
I thought when I saw that she was going to have a press conference, this morning at the airport, I said, "Good". "She's going to tell the press that she is through answering questions about her emails". I was hoping she was going to have one of her 1990's response with the Press like she did when she handled them during that Gennifer Flowers press conference and tell them:
"Look I'm done talking about the emails and won't be answering any more questions about them. There are important issues to talk about regarding this election and I'm going to focus on those things. I understand that the electorate is divided on this topic and nothing I can say at this point is likely to change people's minds. So I'm going to spend the time I have remaining talking about those things that are important to people's lives and where I can make a difference from the guy I'm running against.
If that is not acceptable to you, than don't vote for me. But I'm going to talk about my vision for the future of America. I'm going to talk about my plans for how we can stabilize Syria and Libya so that mothers and children don't have to flee their homes and their neighborhoods. I'm going to talk about how I plan to bring jobs back to this country. I'm going to talk about how we can make college education more affordable for our kids. I am going to talk about how we can stabilize health care costs and get as many people covered as possible. I'm going to talk about my plan for how we are going to get people excited about voting for Democrats on November 8, and how we are going to take back the Senate so that when I nominate the next Supreme Court Justice on January 20, we have a Democratic majority who is going to approve my nominee on the first vote. Now there is much to be done and little time to do it in, so I have to get back to work.
If you are interested in helping me, help you, than you can go to my website at www.HillaryClinton.com and sign up to volunteer and help us to GOTV on November 8." Thank you.
metroins
(2,550 posts)The debates will likely make or break the campaign.
She knows Trump is going to hit her on the emails, so she needs some witty comebacks.
I see no harm in already knowing the enemies attack plan...just ride it out until the debates, get a few amazing sound bites, turn it into a positive.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)She needs to show that she's leading with a show of strength. Talking about those emails just makes her look weak and desperate to try and convince people whose minds are already made up. So she needs to move on. If she doesn't she's going to lose the people who she already has won over, because they are tired of having to defend her. The attacks about the emails are not going to stop until she stops answering them, and moves on to other topics with a show of strength, and means it.
When the debates come, if one of the moderators brings up the emails, she should just ignore it and talk about what she wants to talk about. Donald Trump does it all the time, and it hasn't cost him any support.
metroins
(2,550 posts)There's NOTHING else to hit Hillary on.
She's one of the safest bets in politics, if anything, she's boring. If she ignores the emails, they'll keep hitting her anyway because there is nothing left.
I think she had a few decent one liners against Bernie, I think she can pull it off in these debates as well.
I could go on to list problems with Hillary but I think she's stuck with the emails until the debate unless she can turn it into a positive.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)leaked from the Benghazi Committees, from Wikileaks, from Putin and the Russians, from the Justice Dept, etc, etc, etc. She needs to go on offense and stop playing defense. When she's on defense, she looks weak. Sorry, but that's the way I see it and I've been one of her biggest fans since they first came on the national stage. I've got all her and her husbands books. My husband volunteers on her phone banks. (I can't because my job doesn't permit it. My husband can because he's retired.) I've donated to the campaign. I'm with her. But she needs to start fighting from a position of strength, not waiting for the next shoe to drop.
metroins
(2,550 posts)She hits Trump daily. I'd like to see her get a 3 point stump speech like Bernie had, people don't like long answers.
I think I'm agreeing on the emails.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)so if you stop talking about emails we will stop talking about Melania's immigration status.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)You should forward that to her campaign.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)At the debate, she can go the way you suggest.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)By then, early voting will have started. Minds will already be made up. All the more reason why she shouldn't be talking about emails.
BlueStateLib
(937 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)When was the last time, the media asked Trump about:
His Taxes,
About his illegal contribution to the Florida AG,
About the Trump Modeling Company and his coaching young models on how to get around working in this country without Visas,
Trump debt owed to foreigners, including possibly the Russian and Chinese Governments,
Melania working in this country illegally,
Trumps tripling of the amount of rent charged to his campaign for the use of office space at Trump Towers since he began accepting political contributions,
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)But if I were related to her, it would be for real. She's been preparing for this all her adult life. She's blowing it against a creep who shouldn't be allowed to even take a tour of the White House, let alone be considered as a serious candidate for president.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)If she were a relative.
oasis
(49,389 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)email crap is something she was involved in and Flowers was a Bill problem. Just saying.
She sounded a bit frustrated last night --early on--and I can not blame her but all and all, she answered the questions. Trump wants her to explode someday, but Hillary will not.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)and he's not shaking in his boots. He says that he is not going to talk about it. If Hillary was smart she'd do the same thing. Right now, the Benghazi Committee is still trying to get her indicted on perjury charges. If anyone would have a right to not talk about a subject, I'd think it would be her. They are trying to send her to jail for lying. I'm not saying that she'd guilty of anything, but the more she says, the more they ask to be investigated. It's a game for them. She doesn't have to participate.
Cycle2016
(161 posts)Sorry, can't remember for sure if it was 62 or 67 but leaning toward 62.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)I didn't think so.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)the Press, and showed some spunk, and toughness. How many times can a person say, "I made a mistake". "I shouldn't have done it". You don't see Trump apologizing repeatedly about anything, and it hasn't hurt him lately. The Press will get over it too, if she stops talking about it. Also, this isn't the end of it. The GOP will continue with the torture by a thousand cuts, with the emails, then the blackberries that aren't accounted for, and then Wikileaks will chime back in, and then Putin and his hackers will chime back in. Enough already.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)it hasn't hurt him any. The media has even admitted that they grade Trump on a different scale than they do Hillary. If you let people walk on you, don't be surprised if they do.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)'read my response to that at "x"'
and then say, on the topic of "whatever she wants and needs to get out"
just start speaking on that.
ALL the candidates do that.
And no one challenges them
Even if reasked the question, they do the same thing again.
It's apparently written in rules somewhere.
There are things she needs to say, that people need to hear, that the media won't GIVE her the time to say, nor people the opportunity to hear.... but 'authority is granted, but power is seized'.
Seize the power Hillary! Go!
0rganism
(23,957 posts)that's just feeding sound-byte fodder to the opposition who has no incentive whatsoever to provide context
tRump: "In her own words folks, let her tell you herself:"
recorded HRC audio: "...don't vote for me..."
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)0rganism
(23,957 posts)zenabby
(364 posts)I wouldn't do the "if that's not acceptable don't vote for me" part. But I think she looks weak by having to answer email questions again and again with a poker face without a single strong word or push back. I'm no fan of DJT but he says things like "It's none of your business" and "you guys are cheats" and gets away with it. She could at the very least start with - "Well, Matt, as asked and answered about a million times before...", or confront his "Be as brief as you can" with some reference to amount of time spent on emails. And she should def. say - I'm going to have press conferences every day (or often) but will not be taking any more questions on emails or foundation unless any new information has come in. You can direct all questions to my campaign, and they will provide you with an answer.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Motley13
(3,867 posts)I have answered that question a zillion times, what is it you don't understand?
I'm sick of the damned e-mails
Pathwalker
(6,598 posts)will get you shot. And you'd deserve it. Thanks for your concern.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)saying, "She hasn't answered the question."
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)The Secret Service folks might take exception to an assault on her.
Bucky
(54,027 posts)Yes, even if they insist on talking about things when you want them to shut up instead.