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politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:04 PM Sep 2016

I am a big supporter of Hillary, but at this moment I just want to shake her and say

for the last time: "Stop talking about those damn emails."

This is not a conversation she is going to win. This is not a conversation you can have in a 2 or even 10 minute soundbite and change hearts. At this point I would hope that someone has taken her aside today, (shake her if you have to) and tell her to stop talking about those damn emails.

I thought when I saw that she was going to have a press conference, this morning at the airport, I said, "Good". "She's going to tell the press that she is through answering questions about her emails". I was hoping she was going to have one of her 1990's response with the Press like she did when she handled them during that Gennifer Flowers press conference and tell them:

"Look I'm done talking about the emails and won't be answering any more questions about them. There are important issues to talk about regarding this election and I'm going to focus on those things. I understand that the electorate is divided on this topic and nothing I can say at this point is likely to change people's minds. So I'm going to spend the time I have remaining talking about those things that are important to people's lives and where I can make a difference from the guy I'm running against.

If that is not acceptable to you, than don't vote for me. But I'm going to talk about my vision for the future of America. I'm going to talk about my plans for how we can stabilize Syria and Libya so that mothers and children don't have to flee their homes and their neighborhoods. I'm going to talk about how I plan to bring jobs back to this country. I'm going to talk about how we can make college education more affordable for our kids. I am going to talk about how we can stabilize health care costs and get as many people covered as possible. I'm going to talk about my plan for how we are going to get people excited about voting for Democrats on November 8, and how we are going to take back the Senate so that when I nominate the next Supreme Court Justice on January 20, we have a Democratic majority who is going to approve my nominee on the first vote. Now there is much to be done and little time to do it in, so I have to get back to work.

If you are interested in helping me, help you, than you can go to my website at www.HillaryClinton.com and sign up to volunteer and help us to GOTV on November 8." Thank you.
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I am a big supporter of Hillary, but at this moment I just want to shake her and say (Original Post) politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 OP
I don't think it matters metroins Sep 2016 #1
Sorry but witty is not her strong suit these days. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #8
I want to agree. BUT metroins Sep 2016 #15
How about death by a thousand cuts. There's always the posibility that there could be more emails politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #22
How's she going to go on offense? metroins Sep 2016 #31
Maybe just say that we both need to talk about the future of the country greymattermom Sep 2016 #2
Do you hear the press asking about Melania these days. I don't. They've moved on. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #10
That's not bad oberliner Sep 2016 #3
Maybe since she got it out last night. mainstreetonce Sep 2016 #4
If she's still talking about it by the time the debates roll around, she's toast. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #11
Then be prepared for a loss, the media wont stand down BlueStateLib Sep 2016 #20
We'll never know will we, unless she tries. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #28
Why wouldn't you just ask her with our the shaking? MyNameGoesHere Sep 2016 #5
The shaking in this case is metaphoric. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #16
You could always slap her around. MyNameGoesHere Sep 2016 #21
No more time for email witch hunt bullshit. Not one minute more. oasis Sep 2016 #6
Jennifer Flowers was different. I think you are talking apples and oranges. The riversedge Sep 2016 #7
Donald Trump has not released his Taxes, and the public doesn't seem to give a damn politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #9
Poll today said 62% or 67% of Americans want his taxes released. Cycle2016 Sep 2016 #14
Did his election poll numbers drop any as a result of that poll saying people want to see his taxes? politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #18
The reason I referenced the Flowers incident is the way she handled the Press. She took command of politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #13
If she is asked in a forum or debate, she has to answer. RBInMaine Sep 2016 #12
Hmmm. Last time I checked, Trump talks about what he wants, how he wants, and so far politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #19
exactly. Say two words or two sentences, like DebJ Sep 2016 #33
a candidate should never say "don't vote for me" in any context 0rganism Sep 2016 #17
Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom MohRokTah Sep 2016 #23
i find your lack of faith ... concerning 0rganism Sep 2016 #25
I agree mostly .. zenabby Sep 2016 #24
Me too. I wish she'd say " I'm done talking about emails. Next question?" apcalc Sep 2016 #26
How about Motley13 Sep 2016 #27
Physical assault against someone with Secret Service protection Pathwalker Sep 2016 #29
But but but there will always Halperin and Mrs. Greenspan tavernier Sep 2016 #30
I'd be careful about that. MineralMan Sep 2016 #32
Personally, I'm opposed to threats of violence against any woman. Bucky Sep 2016 #34

metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. I don't think it matters
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:08 PM
Sep 2016

The debates will likely make or break the campaign.

She knows Trump is going to hit her on the emails, so she needs some witty comebacks.

I see no harm in already knowing the enemies attack plan...just ride it out until the debates, get a few amazing sound bites, turn it into a positive.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
8. Sorry but witty is not her strong suit these days.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:30 PM
Sep 2016

She needs to show that she's leading with a show of strength. Talking about those emails just makes her look weak and desperate to try and convince people whose minds are already made up. So she needs to move on. If she doesn't she's going to lose the people who she already has won over, because they are tired of having to defend her. The attacks about the emails are not going to stop until she stops answering them, and moves on to other topics with a show of strength, and means it.

When the debates come, if one of the moderators brings up the emails, she should just ignore it and talk about what she wants to talk about. Donald Trump does it all the time, and it hasn't cost him any support.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
15. I want to agree. BUT
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:53 PM
Sep 2016

There's NOTHING else to hit Hillary on.

She's one of the safest bets in politics, if anything, she's boring. If she ignores the emails, they'll keep hitting her anyway because there is nothing left.

I think she had a few decent one liners against Bernie, I think she can pull it off in these debates as well.

I could go on to list problems with Hillary but I think she's stuck with the emails until the debate unless she can turn it into a positive.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
22. How about death by a thousand cuts. There's always the posibility that there could be more emails
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:15 PM
Sep 2016

leaked from the Benghazi Committees, from Wikileaks, from Putin and the Russians, from the Justice Dept, etc, etc, etc. She needs to go on offense and stop playing defense. When she's on defense, she looks weak. Sorry, but that's the way I see it and I've been one of her biggest fans since they first came on the national stage. I've got all her and her husbands books. My husband volunteers on her phone banks. (I can't because my job doesn't permit it. My husband can because he's retired.) I've donated to the campaign. I'm with her. But she needs to start fighting from a position of strength, not waiting for the next shoe to drop.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
31. How's she going to go on offense?
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:23 PM
Sep 2016

She hits Trump daily. I'd like to see her get a 3 point stump speech like Bernie had, people don't like long answers.

I think I'm agreeing on the emails.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
2. Maybe just say that we both need to talk about the future of the country
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:10 PM
Sep 2016

so if you stop talking about emails we will stop talking about Melania's immigration status.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
11. If she's still talking about it by the time the debates roll around, she's toast.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:40 PM
Sep 2016

By then, early voting will have started. Minds will already be made up. All the more reason why she shouldn't be talking about emails.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
28. We'll never know will we, unless she tries.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:42 PM
Sep 2016

When was the last time, the media asked Trump about:
His Taxes,
About his illegal contribution to the Florida AG,
About the Trump Modeling Company and his coaching young models on how to get around working in this country without Visas,
Trump debt owed to foreigners, including possibly the Russian and Chinese Governments,
Melania working in this country illegally,
Trumps tripling of the amount of rent charged to his campaign for the use of office space at Trump Towers since he began accepting political contributions,

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
16. The shaking in this case is metaphoric.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:56 PM
Sep 2016

But if I were related to her, it would be for real. She's been preparing for this all her adult life. She's blowing it against a creep who shouldn't be allowed to even take a tour of the White House, let alone be considered as a serious candidate for president.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
7. Jennifer Flowers was different. I think you are talking apples and oranges. The
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:27 PM
Sep 2016

email crap is something she was involved in and Flowers was a Bill problem. Just saying.
She sounded a bit frustrated last night --early on--and I can not blame her but all and all, she answered the questions. Trump wants her to explode someday, but Hillary will not.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
9. Donald Trump has not released his Taxes, and the public doesn't seem to give a damn
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:37 PM
Sep 2016

and he's not shaking in his boots. He says that he is not going to talk about it. If Hillary was smart she'd do the same thing. Right now, the Benghazi Committee is still trying to get her indicted on perjury charges. If anyone would have a right to not talk about a subject, I'd think it would be her. They are trying to send her to jail for lying. I'm not saying that she'd guilty of anything, but the more she says, the more they ask to be investigated. It's a game for them. She doesn't have to participate.

Cycle2016

(161 posts)
14. Poll today said 62% or 67% of Americans want his taxes released.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:53 PM
Sep 2016

Sorry, can't remember for sure if it was 62 or 67 but leaning toward 62.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
18. Did his election poll numbers drop any as a result of that poll saying people want to see his taxes?
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:58 PM
Sep 2016

I didn't think so.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
13. The reason I referenced the Flowers incident is the way she handled the Press. She took command of
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:50 PM
Sep 2016

the Press, and showed some spunk, and toughness. How many times can a person say, "I made a mistake". "I shouldn't have done it". You don't see Trump apologizing repeatedly about anything, and it hasn't hurt him lately. The Press will get over it too, if she stops talking about it. Also, this isn't the end of it. The GOP will continue with the torture by a thousand cuts, with the emails, then the blackberries that aren't accounted for, and then Wikileaks will chime back in, and then Putin and his hackers will chime back in. Enough already.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
19. Hmmm. Last time I checked, Trump talks about what he wants, how he wants, and so far
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:01 PM
Sep 2016

it hasn't hurt him any. The media has even admitted that they grade Trump on a different scale than they do Hillary. If you let people walk on you, don't be surprised if they do.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
33. exactly. Say two words or two sentences, like
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 01:44 AM
Sep 2016

'read my response to that at "x"'
and then say, on the topic of "whatever she wants and needs to get out"
just start speaking on that.

ALL the candidates do that.
And no one challenges them
Even if reasked the question, they do the same thing again.

It's apparently written in rules somewhere.

There are things she needs to say, that people need to hear, that the media won't GIVE her the time to say, nor people the opportunity to hear.... but 'authority is granted, but power is seized'.

Seize the power Hillary! Go!

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
17. a candidate should never say "don't vote for me" in any context
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:58 PM
Sep 2016

that's just feeding sound-byte fodder to the opposition who has no incentive whatsoever to provide context
tRump: "In her own words folks, let her tell you herself:"
recorded HRC audio: "...don't vote for me..."

zenabby

(364 posts)
24. I agree mostly ..
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:22 PM
Sep 2016

I wouldn't do the "if that's not acceptable don't vote for me" part. But I think she looks weak by having to answer email questions again and again with a poker face without a single strong word or push back. I'm no fan of DJT but he says things like "It's none of your business" and "you guys are cheats" and gets away with it. She could at the very least start with - "Well, Matt, as asked and answered about a million times before...", or confront his "Be as brief as you can" with some reference to amount of time spent on emails. And she should def. say - I'm going to have press conferences every day (or often) but will not be taking any more questions on emails or foundation unless any new information has come in. You can direct all questions to my campaign, and they will provide you with an answer.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
27. How about
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:36 PM
Sep 2016

I have answered that question a zillion times, what is it you don't understand?

I'm sick of the damned e-mails

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
29. Physical assault against someone with Secret Service protection
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 06:52 PM
Sep 2016

will get you shot. And you'd deserve it. Thanks for your concern.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
34. Personally, I'm opposed to threats of violence against any woman.
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 03:31 AM
Sep 2016

Yes, even if they insist on talking about things when you want them to shut up instead.

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