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major debacle

(508 posts)
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:10 PM Sep 2016

Trump in Iowa today: "We don't make shipsssss" FACT CHECK

Yes, he drew out the ess, as if to emphasize the point. In context:

"We don't make things here like we used to anymore. We're gonna start making things in OUR country. We're gonna start having the jobs be jobs that are good for OUR country. We're gonna rebuild our roads, our bridges, our tunnels, our highways, our airports, our schools and our hospitals. American cars will travel the roads. American airplanes will soar the skies and American ships will patrol the seas. We don't make ships."

You can confirm by searching for "Full Speech: Donald Trump Rally in Des Moines, Iowa". It's at YouTube. Jump to 28:34.

The only problem with that statement is that it is not true:

U.S. Shipbuilding Industry Tops 110,000 Jobs Novemer 3, 2015

U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx has announced updated data on the U.S. shipbuilding industry. The report, prepared by the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Maritime Administration, found that the U.S. shipbuilding and repair industry supports jobs in all 50 states with a total of more than 110,000 jobs nationwide and contributes $37.3 billion dollars to the national GDP.

Currently there are 124 shipyards in the U.S., spread across 26 states, which are classified as active shipbuilders. In addition, there are more than 200 shipyards engaged in ship repairs or capable of building ships but not actively engaged in shipbuilding.

U.S. Navy Shipbuilding

Navy shipbuilding is a market segment most dominated by two large corporations: General Dynamics (GD) and Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII). When the builders of the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) are added to the five shipyards of these two corporations, we have eight shipyards building the large majority of the Fleet. These principal Navy shipbuilders construct aircraft carriers, submarines, complex surface combatants and the large auxiliary ships of the Fleet. HII's Newport News Shipbuilding and GD's Electric Boat build our nuclear class vessels. HII's Ingalls Shipyard and GD's Bath Iron Works build the destroyer class ships, and HII's Ingalls and Avondale build the amphibious warships that transport the U.S. Marine Corps. Fincantieri Marinette and Austal USA build the LCS. Finally, GD's National Steel and Shipbuilding Company (NASSCO) on the west coast, specializes in the larger, complex auxiliary and support ships as well as large commercial vessel construction.

Built in America: U.S. Shipbuilding Continues to Set the Standard


Posted by Maritime Administrator Paul "Chip" Jaenichen

I have long said that when it comes to our national security and our Nation’s prosperity - small shipyards play a critical role.

American shipbuilders not only ensure that our Nation can build and maintain the vessels our military needs to keep our Nation secure, smaller shipyards throughout our Nation maintain our domestic fleet that keeps essential commodities flowing and goods on the store shelves including in Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico. But what’s more, our Nation’s shipyards continue to meet or exceed international standards for efficiency and productivity in building vessels for use all over the globe while ensuring the creation and availability of good-paying jobs here at home that can support a family.

This is exactly why the Maritime Administration awarded $4.9 million in grants for capital improvements at nine small U.S. shipyards. This funding will support industrial modernizations so that our small shipyards can better compete in a rapidly changing global marketplace.

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Trump in Iowa today: "We don't make shipsssss" FACT CHECK (Original Post) major debacle Sep 2016 OP
When Trump is elected we're gonna party like it is 1959! yellowcanine Sep 2016 #1
Bring back the Cold War?? Angry Dragon Sep 2016 #4
and Trump has his clothes line made overseas Angry Dragon Sep 2016 #2
I would dearly love to see someone in the media... major debacle Sep 2016 #12
They are running ads in Iowa. justgamma Sep 2016 #16
Mr. trump, please listen to me carefully, there will be a test. justhanginon Sep 2016 #3
The inauguration is held on January 20th Angry Dragon Sep 2016 #5
LOL, I guess I got a little overanxious. Duhhh! justhanginon Sep 2016 #11
Amazing isn't it. And the things the press lets him get away with. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #8
It's sad to say, but he's correct. cloudbase Sep 2016 #6
Shipping companies don't build the ships. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2016 #9
You are correct. cloudbase Sep 2016 #13
What would he know? He makes a big deal The_Casual_Observer Sep 2016 #7
I'll bet this was news to everyone working in the Newport News shipyard underpants Sep 2016 #10
Well, they don't make ships in Iowa KatyMan Sep 2016 #14
Trump will fix that major debacle Sep 2016 #15
I assume that the first thing he will do is to move his clothing company manufacturing to the US MiniMe Sep 2016 #17

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
1. When Trump is elected we're gonna party like it is 1959!
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:12 PM
Sep 2016


We will build our interstate highway system all over again. Just because we can.
We will build gas guzzler cars with big fins again. Just because we can.
We will have WHITE and COLORED drinking fountains again. Just because we can.

Make your own additions......


major debacle

(508 posts)
12. I would dearly love to see someone in the media...
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:30 PM
Sep 2016

... anyone in the media, call him on this, but I doubt it's gonna happen.

Oh wait, Hillary has a Tip Line: Scroll about 2/3 down. There is a link that opens your email client with this address in the "To" box: tips@hillaryclinton.com

DONE!


justgamma

(3,666 posts)
16. They are running ads in Iowa.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:56 PM
Sep 2016

David Letterman interviewing Trump, holding up all his clothes and telling him where they are made. Don't know who is paying for them. Good ones.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
3. Mr. trump, please listen to me carefully, there will be a test.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:19 PM
Sep 2016

Over here is your ass. Over there is a hole in the ground. Now go home and study and think about these two things. Don't come back until you know the difference. See you in December at Hillary's inauguration.

cloudbase

(5,524 posts)
6. It's sad to say, but he's correct.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:23 PM
Sep 2016

I'm a retired merchant marine officer. I've seen many U.S. flag shipping companies disappear over the years, and the ones that remain don't have anywhere the number of ships they once did, and some of those are partially owned by foreign interests.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
7. What would he know? He makes a big deal
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:24 PM
Sep 2016

Out of the fact that his business has built a few office towers, as if that hadn't been done thousands of times for the last 100 years by others.

He talks like he would have a checkbook and could personally direct where the money goes, like Congress wasn't involved in any of this. What a jerk.

major debacle

(508 posts)
15. Trump will fix that
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016

He will either move Iowa to the coast, which by the way will create MASSIVE jobs, or he will move the coast to Iowa, which will also create MASSIVE jobs. Either way, we win!

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
17. I assume that the first thing he will do is to move his clothing company manufacturing to the US
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 11:27 PM
Sep 2016

I can't even type that with a strait keyboard.

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