2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBloomberg Ohio poll
Trump 43%
Hillary 38%
Johnson 10%
Stein 3%
September 9-12
*so this includes some data after illness announced
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Party breakdown for the poll was 33 percent Republican, 29 percent Democrats, and 34 percent independents. Exit polling shows that Ohio's electorate in the 2012 presidential election was 38 percent Democratic, 31 percent Republican, and 31 percent independent
writes3000
(4,734 posts)helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)SCliberal91294
(170 posts)32% reps, 28% dems, 34% ind
leebaba1992
(53 posts)hopefully doesnt get worse
book_worm
(15,951 posts)because the reported number is Party ID, not party registration.
Party ID changes depending on how respondents "feel" about a particular party.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)from 2012?
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Only whether or not the respondent is excited for the R vs D nominee. Some independents are reporting they they are R. A few dumb Ds too.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Do you think that's a reasonable estimate?
Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Their demo model in general is a 2004 model. In other words, they think the minority vote is going to look like 2000... in complete contradiction to historical data.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Trump is bringing propped up while in the media's eye Hillary can do no right.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)molova
(543 posts)This poll reflects that. If the media decides to give the Trump Foundation proper coverage (Criminal inquiry in NY, missing donations, etc.) Hillary will lead again in the next poll.
If the media decides to hand Trump the Presidency, that's another story. The New York Times has been particularly awful in that respect.
leebaba1992
(53 posts)only good that comes out of all this mess is that Hilary's expectations will lowered for the debate. The media will be obsessed with her "looking healthy". All she has to do is look healthy and speak intelligently like she normally does and the narrative will be positive towards her
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Trump is still gaining in the polls and might be closed to tied. Just hold PA and we should win, but this is going to be a close election now.
leebaba1992
(53 posts)270towin map. its my worse case scenario but very possible
http://www.270towin.com/
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Outlier or trend? Can't tell yet.
Democat
(11,617 posts)We don't need more polls, because they will likely show the same bad numbers in the few days after 9/11. We need another week to pass to see where we are.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)This poll used the demographics of 2004 for adjustment instead of 2012 demographics. I think it will be shown to be an outlier in the next few days,
Democat
(11,617 posts)So we can both be right.