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Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 01:23 PM Sep 2016

Nate Silver 538 and polls in general

Are showing a bit of decline for Hillary Clinton. I'm not in panic mode, but do wonder whether there is a bit of a lag time from the weekend blitz on the "pneumonia-gate". Thoughts?

So, now with Barack Obama giving his fiery speech yesterday in Philadelphia and at least there being a crack in the wall with the breaking Newsweek story...anyone care to venture a guess about lag time on polls and whether there being a bit more coverage on the Trump Foundation and Bondi-gate will tend to push the need even further in Hillary's direction?

And then there's the issue of Daily Kos prediction now showing the Senate retake by Dems at 46%. Ugh....

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Nate Silver 538 and polls in general (Original Post) Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 OP
I've never seen more DU posters with low post counts showing concern Democat Sep 2016 #1
I think we're all somewhat concerned Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #3
Democat, what do you mean? wncHillsupport Sep 2016 #4
Lots of people sign up during general elections radius777 Sep 2016 #14
I think the polls will be bad for the next few days democrattotheend Sep 2016 #2
We have seen a tightening.... Adrahil Sep 2016 #5
It is hard to relax Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #6
As I said last night - we'll know next Tuesday underpants Sep 2016 #7
Every time I check Nate Silver 538 Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #8
I agree with you and have the same concerns. radius777 Sep 2016 #15
The thought that Trump might have a one in three chance of winning is just disgusting. totodeinhere Sep 2016 #16
still downward drifting at Nate Silver 538 Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #9
Here are my thoughts DesertRat Sep 2016 #10
I think DesertRat has some grand suggestions. MADem Sep 2016 #11
True, you don't have to just phone bank or canvass DesertRat Sep 2016 #12
I am very willing to GOTV Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #13

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
3. I think we're all somewhat concerned
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 01:34 PM
Sep 2016

that the media just lambastes the hell out of Hillary and that in turn helps to prop up tRump.

wncHillsupport

(112 posts)
4. Democat, what do you mean?
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 01:35 PM
Sep 2016

Are you saying us newer members are not qualified to post concerns? I am a realist. I lived through the media and the DNC and the Senate killing Hillary's campaign in 2008. I know it is possible for a majority to elect an idiot if it means not electing a strong woman. Especially this woman.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
14. Lots of people sign up during general elections
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:55 PM
Sep 2016

with all types of concerns, especially since H/Dems are running a weak campaign against a historically weak opponent they should be destroying by now.

I've been reading and posting on DU since 2002 (forgot which accounts I've used, changed computers several times, made a new account again) on an off, especially during general elections.

2004 especially was intense around here, lots of people voiced concerns that Kerry should fight back harder against swiftboating, flip-flopping charges etc - and we were right.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
2. I think the polls will be bad for the next few days
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 01:32 PM
Sep 2016

Since the polls coming out today don't fully register the incident on Sunday yet.

Hopefully things will start to turn around after that. It really makes me angry that her being sick is being turned into some kind of a scandal. Why the hell was she obligated to disclose the pneumonia?

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
5. We have seen a tightening....
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 01:37 PM
Sep 2016

but most polls are still in Clinton's favor. Relax. I expect Clinton will bounce back in the next week as she gets back on the trail, and Obama hits the stump hard for her. We have those debates coming up, so a great opportunity to make progress there.

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
6. It is hard to relax
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 02:01 PM
Sep 2016

When all the news...all the time is Trump this and Trump that, spun in a positive light. Apparently Nate Silver has called the presidential race "competitive".

I swear -- if Trump becomes President, it's the damn media's fault for kowtowing to him and his surrogates. They are aiding and abetting him and putting our country and the world at risk.

I realize I'm over reacting -- but I am concerned and wonder when the madness will stop.

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
8. Every time I check Nate Silver 538
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 03:43 PM
Sep 2016

there's a down tick for Hillary and an uptick for Trump. What in the f*ck is going on? Is this just a particular bad day? She started the day at around 69.4% and is down around 65% and on the Nate Silver website "Trump has a 1 in 3 chance of winning". Yeah, she's still ahead by plenty, but what is this downward slide all about?

No - I'm no troll -- I'm just reporting what I'm observing -- and I don't like it one bit!

radius777

(3,635 posts)
15. I agree with you and have the same concerns.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:05 AM
Sep 2016

H/Dems are running a weak campaign against a historically weak and awful candidate, who should be getting destroyed in the polls by now. Team H squandered the lead they had during August, by not having a stronger/clearer message, by not being tougher and fighting back at negative (emails, healtherism, etc) media narratives and rw smears, by not having tougher surrogates on all of these shows.

They are letting us down. If Trump wins America as we know it will cease to exist.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
16. The thought that Trump might have a one in three chance of winning is just disgusting.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:27 AM
Sep 2016

What's the matter with people?

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
9. still downward drifting at Nate Silver 538
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 05:00 PM
Sep 2016

Just wondering why this downward drift is still occurring...thoughts??

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
10. Here are my thoughts
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:17 PM
Sep 2016

When I feel concerned, it helps me to DO something. It's easy for me to sit and the computer and start worrying. But that does nothing to help our candidates. I've been volunteering at my local Democratic office. I phone bank a couple of times a week. I enjoy meeting up with other Democratic volunteers and connecting with voters to talk about our Democratic candidates. It helps me to feel like I am actually doing something to affect change.

As we get closer to the election, I will continue to phone bank and I'll also start canvassing our neighborhoods. It's been proven that talking to voters on the phone and in person can and does make a difference.


MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. I think DesertRat has some grand suggestions.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:28 PM
Sep 2016

If you're good at talking to people, phonebanking is a good idea. There are lots of other volunteer opportunities, too. Don't fret, do! I think you'll feel better.

The polls are situational and ebb/flow with the news cycle and who happened to answer the phone (many just refuse nowadays) to respond to the pollsters.

There aren't that many undecideds. GOTV is going to win this contest, and you can help!

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
12. True, you don't have to just phone bank or canvass
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:41 PM
Sep 2016

At our Dem. office, some people stop by to donate snacks and drinks (bottled water and soft drinks) for the volunteers. Anything you can do to help the GOTV effort is helpful and much appreciated!

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
13. I am very willing to GOTV
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 09:47 PM
Sep 2016

Oregon is a pretty blue state. It's those swing states I worry about. Ohio, Florida...seem to be swinging back toward Trump. Once again, I'm not a troll, but I'm not an ostrich with my head in the sand. Hillary and surrogates need to be out there day after day pounding the pavement and getting air time. The MSM leans Trump and Trump surrogates are sucking up the airwaves.

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